Disney Plans Gentler Mission: Space

MickeyTigg

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Word of a less-intense version of the thrill ride follows 2 deaths and many complaints.

Scott Powers and Beth Kassab
Orlando Sentinel

May 3, 2006

Less than a month after a second person died after riding Mission: Space, Walt Disney World is reworking its hazardous but popular Epcot ride to offer a Mission: Space-lite option for some people.

The thrill ride simulates a spaceship launch, flight and landing with a combination of centrifugal and other motion forces and audio and video "virtual-reality" effects. There are four separate centrifuge systems in the ride building, each with 10 pods that can hold four riders each.

Disney announced Tuesday that it will turn off the centrifuge on at least one system, so that riders who don't want, or should not try, the spinning may still ride.

The new option would be available by early summer.

A company spokeswoman said the change is not being made because of the April 12 death of a German tourist, Hiltrud Blumel, the death last summer of a 4-year-old boy, Daudi Bamuwamye, or numerous other illness complaints.

Instead, Disney is characterizing the nonspinning ride as an exciting new option.

"By offering a second adventure, we hope to broaden the appeal of Mission: Space and enable even more guests to experience the attraction," Al Weiss, president of Walt Disney World Resort, said in a prepared statement.

Weiss was not available to be interviewed Tuesday evening. Nor were Walt Disney World Vice President of Epcot Brad Rex, or Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Chief Safety Officer Greg Hale.

Mission: Space has drawn 11.8 million people since it opened in the summer of 2003 and is a favorite of many.

Kim and R.J. Maurice, a sister and brother from Jacksonville, are among them. After they rode it Tuesday, Kim Maurice, 21, said she would ride it 30 more times if she could.

But Mission: Space also draws the most complaints of serious illnesses among all Disney World rides. And it is the only one that includes motion-sickness bags. Besides the two deaths, more than 130 riders have sought medical attention, including 10 reported with serious health effects, since the ride opened.

When asked whether the change was being made because of recent events, Disney spokeswoman Kim Prunty responded, "The answer is no."

"We are doing this for three reasons," Prunty said. "To enable even more guests to experience the attraction; to provide an alternative that may be more suited for some guests, such as those who are prone to motion sickness or have other conditions; and to further encourage all guests to carefully consider and heed posted health warnings."

The ride is safe as designed for people who heed the health warnings, she said. People with cardiovascular problems including hypertension, or who are prone to motion sickness, are warned away by 13 signs, plus video and audio warnings along the ride's queue.

Since the April 12 death, Mission: Space lines consistently have been far shorter than those at Epcot's two other major rides, Soarin' and Test Track. Tuesday evening, the posted wait time for Mission: Space was five minutes, compared with 40 for Soarin' and 30 for Test Track, a typical spread in recent weeks.

Without the centrifugal force -- which the military and NASA have used for decades to help simulate flight and spaceflight -- the ride would be more like Star Tours at Disney-MGM Studios or Back to the Future at Universal Studios. Both simulate flight experiences with rocking, rising and falling motions and video and audio.

Disney is still working out the operational details, Prunty said.

Other rides offer options. Many roller coasters, for example, allow riders to choose the front car. Typically, the queue splits just before the boarding area.

Prunty said Mission: Space warning signs will make the choices clear.

Many Epcot guests were considering the current warnings Tuesday, and some said they would think about riding the alternative if it were available. Kirk and Cosette Steehler of Erie, Pa., sat out the ride while two of their children rode.

They weren't worried about serious problems but said they didn't want to get sick. Kirk Steehler said he has gotten sick before on simulator rides.

"If it was toned down, I'd probably go on it," Cosette Steehler said.

Theme-park analysts and ride-safety proponents welcomed the change.

"It sounds like a reasonable step for a self-regulated park to take," said Kathy Fackler, founder and president of SaferParks, a California-based organization crusading for independent ride-safety reviews.

But some said they think Disney is reacting to the deaths and illnesses.

"I think it's because of the problems they've had with it," said Steve Baker, president of Baker Leisure Group, an Orlando-based theme-park consulting firm. "So I guess they [Disney officials] have got to, without scuttling the whole ride, try something, and make the liability less, to say, 'We've gone to great lengths to offer you a safe ride. What else are we going to do?' "

Nationally, some rides, notably The Rattler at Fiesta Texas, in San Antonio, and Son of Beast, at Kings Island, in Ohio, were changed after injury complaints.

But Dennis Speigel, president of International Theme Park Services in Cincinnati, said he knows of no park that ever offered a less-intense alternative following complaints.

Speigel said he thought the second option is a "logical extension." He said it should encourage more people with health concerns to take the warnings seriously, because they'll have more choices than just to ride or not to ride.

"I would imagine that if there was a question, and somebody realistically addressed that, they will stop and say, 'Well, maybe I will take the less intense ride,' " he said.
 

Captain Chaos

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Good article.. No slant what so ever... Just reported the news as the media release stated... Disney may not have changed one part of the ride cause of the deaths, but something does tell me Disney decided to offer a toned down version due to all the complaints.. Remember, Disney does tend to be proactive with the safety of its guests...

This is a good thing for M:S... for the fans of the ride and for people who want to ride M:S but cannot for whatever reason....

EDIT: On second thought, the headline is a tad misleading... Makes it sound as if Disney started this testing and made this decision AFTER the 2nd death, when, it was stated the testing began before the 2nd death... No doubt the complaint of illness led them to test this, and maybe the 2nd death and more bad publicity led them to fast pace this tamer version... But whatever the reason.. Disney made a good choice.. Now let's see how popular M:S becomes...
 

bgraham34

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I thought they were gonna tone down the whole thing. But all in all its a good thing. If it were the whole ride i would be very angry.
 

Nicole

Well-Known Member
Unfortunately for me, the most motion sick I've ever been at DL was on Star Tours. So if the "lite" version of M:S is similiar to that I'll still have to miss it. (However that is not Disney's fault!)
 

Pete C

Active Member
Nicole said:
Unfortunately for me, the most motion sick I've ever been at DL was on Star Tours. So if the "lite" version of M:S is similiar to that I'll still have to miss it. (However that is not Disney's fault!)

Actually, it will be like ST in that there will be a video screen and movement, but it probably won't feel anything like ST. ST is quite jerky because of the old technology in the ride system. I believe MS's movements will be a lot smoother...more like Soarin. However, nobody really knows what this ride will feel like with the new profile since we don't know what it is really capable of outside the original's movement...so we will just have to wait and see. I really hope this is up by June so my friend can go on it, who would never have been able to ride the standard MS.
 

bladerunner

Member
This is good news for me - I'll try it again. I went on MS twice on two different trips and felt queasy - the only other WDW ride I feel the same way is on the Tea Cups!
 

Speedbird

New Member
If they turn it down it will be a complete waste. Just stop the foolish going on. Didn't someone die on TOT last year? Haven't tuned that down. Make people more aware of what the ride ACTUALLY is and they won't go on it. I bet there are an equal number of people who don't ride TOT as M:S. But as you can see what TOT does, it's easier to make the decision not to ride. People seem to think that anything Disney must be all things to everyone and it's not. None of us want just another generic thrill ride park but they need to push the envelope occasionally and that by its nature will exclude a certain percentage of the clientel. Because it's inside, Disney need to police admittance better. A large video screen showing the centrifuges in action and stating the dangers in different languages. Even asking people as they enter the holding area if they have any health problems and refusing people riding who have. If they fail to disclose that information when asked, ride and have an adverse reaction, they can't legally have any complaint. Anyone agree?
 

shoppingnut

Active Member
Pete C said:
Actually, it will be like ST in that there will be a video screen and movement, but it probably won't feel anything like ST. ST is quite jerky because of the old technology in the ride system. I believe MS's movements will be a lot smoother...more like Soarin. However, nobody really knows what this ride will feel like with the new profile since we don't know what it is really capable of outside the original's movement...so we will just have to wait and see. I really hope this is up by June so my friend can go on it, who would never have been able to ride the standard MS.

I get sick on ST and it isn't because of the motion of the simulator, it is because of the visual simulation coming at you that makes me sick.
 

BeachClubVillas

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I'm excited. I think I'm going to try M:S in July!

I think Disney made the right call on this one. They listened to both sides of the issue - the people who like M:S the way it is, and the people who think it's too harsh, and they tried to find a happy medium. By not completely toning down the ride, it's still possible to experience the full force of the ride. By toning down part of it, Disney is enabling more people to experience the ride. I'm sure lots of people don't agree with me, but I think it's the best of both worlds.

It will be interesting to see which line is longer, and if there will be a significant difference in the lines.
 

Pete C

Active Member
Speedbird said:
If they turn it down it will be a complete waste. Just stop the foolish going on. Didn't someone die on TOT last year? Haven't tuned that down. Make people more aware of what the ride ACTUALLY is and they won't go on it. I bet there are an equal number of people who don't ride TOT as M:S. But as you can see what TOT does, it's easier to make the decision not to ride. People seem to think that anything Disney must be all things to everyone and it's not. None of us want just another generic thrill ride park but they need to push the envelope occasionally and that by its nature will exclude a certain percentage of the clientel. Because it's inside, Disney need to police admittance better. A large video screen showing the centrifuges in action and stating the dangers in different languages. Even asking people as they enter the holding area if they have any health problems and refusing people riding who have. If they fail to disclose that information when asked, ride and have an adverse reaction, they can't legally have any complaint. Anyone agree?

A lot of you fail to realize that if kept in its current state with almost no lines, the ride will eventually die off anyway. With this new setup, they will still offer the original ride to everyone, all of the time. Why do you care that they are adding a version that will cater to those not wishing to be spun? If the lines increase that is a GOOD thing. A long line equals a healthy ride, which in turn leads to a long lifespan. With no lines the ride will eventually be replaced, so if ridership increases due to offering an alternative ride profile, this can only help those who like the original profile.
 

wdwmagic

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dimebagdarrel said:
Finally, Disney is starting to get the message about this ride....too bad it took two deaths:brick:

This is totally inaccurate. Deaths of previous riders have all been confirmed by authorities as being due to pre-existing conditions, and nothing to do with the operation of the ride.

Disney's latest change is to allow more guests to ride, inlcuding those who are afraid of the original version.

The original version of the ride will remain totally unchanged, as it has since opening.
 

WDWcouple

Member
dimebagdarrel said:
Finally, Disney is starting to get the message about this ride....too bad it took two deaths:brick:

I was going to reply..... but Im sure the mortars are already on the way regarding the 2 deaths from M:S by other people more passionate about this topic than myself...

2 words....... Pre-Existing Condition (or is that 3)

In other news.... the information about the change to M:S is already on all of the local and national news broadcasts..... Saw it on my local news and GMA while at the gym this morning
 

bassman

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i think that this is an excellent idea,1) because it allows more people 2 experence M:S and 2)this will hopefully get the press and the complaints away from disney.
there is 1 thing i would like 2 see disney do and that is to put the intense version of M:S back 2 how it was when it first opened,with more g-forces.sure it is awesome now even though it is 'toned down' but it would be even awesomer(if thats a word) if it was put back 2 how it was now that there is the non G-force version for the people who cant handle or dont like intense thrill rides.
just my opinion
 

Lee

Adventurer
I've been against this since I first heard about it.:brick:
Basically, you'll be sitting in a pod, watching the film, and tilting back and forth. That's not Mission:Space...that's just....a waste. I fear that people will judge the attraction based on that sort of experience, not on the actual ride.
 

Epcot82Guy

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wdwmagic said:
This is totally inaccurate. Deaths of previous riders have all been confirmed by authorities as being due to pre-existing conditions, and nothing to do with the operation of the ride.

Disney's latest change is to allow more guests to ride, inlcuding those who are afraid of the original version.

The original version of the ride will remain totally unchanged, as it has since opening.

Yes. I think the deaths have much less to do with it than the constant sickness. Although the deaths are tragic, having CMs constantly cleaning up, shutting the ride down, etc. gets VERY expensive and wares on morale. It also creates a buzz for the attraction not as a death trap but as a sickness trap. This can help aleviate that for a decent portion of the population. Will some still ride it when they shouldn't? Of course. But this will hopefully open the capacity and get more out of the attraction.
 

Shaman

Well-Known Member
Lee said:
I've been against this since I first heard about it.:brick:
Basically, you'll be sitting in a pod, watching the film, and tilting back and forth. That's not Mission:Space...that's just....a waste. I fear that people will judge the attraction based on that sort of experience, not on the actual ride.

Maybe these tests will lead to an expansion and addition of a less intense attraction to a true "Space Pavilion".

It's nice to see them looking at things from different angles trying to come up with a solution...but I agree...it is a waste unless they do something more than just tilt, which doesn't seem like that will be the case. All that being said, if adding this "no Gs" experience means keeping the original version I'm all for it.
 

Captain Chaos

Well-Known Member
Speedbird said:
If they turn it down it will be a complete waste. Just stop the foolish going on. Didn't someone die on TOT last year? Haven't tuned that down. Make people more aware of what the ride ACTUALLY is and they won't go on it. I bet there are an equal number of people who don't ride TOT as M:S. But as you can see what TOT does, it's easier to make the decision not to ride. People seem to think that anything Disney must be all things to everyone and it's not. None of us want just another generic thrill ride park but they need to push the envelope occasionally and that by its nature will exclude a certain percentage of the clientel. Because it's inside, Disney need to police admittance better. A large video screen showing the centrifuges in action and stating the dangers in different languages. Even asking people as they enter the holding area if they have any health problems and refusing people riding who have. If they fail to disclose that information when asked, ride and have an adverse reaction, they can't legally have any complaint. Anyone agree?

Disagree.. sorry... By doing this, Disney just did something smart.. they opened this attracion to more guests... And not a select group...
 

Captain Chaos

Well-Known Member
Disney has not gotten their money worth from this attraction. By making this change, they may be able to finally get their money worth.
 

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