Disney may lose its right to build a nuclear power station

[erasure fan1]

You see, the problem with Chernobyl is they tried to use ancient transformers tech. Didn't anyone see Transformers dark of the moon? So it's a good thing Universal doesn't have the ability to build a nuclear plant.

 

[Disstevefan1]

After I asked France, I discovered that they are currently attempting to reduce their dependence on nuclear power and instead rely more on solar and wind power. 71% of their power supply comes from nuclear plants and they want to reduce that figure to 50%. I wonder why?

I think it's because France generates 71% of their power from nuke, it frees them up to roll the dice and play around with wind and solar.. Wind and solar power makes the folks in France feel good, AND they got nuke power to fall back on when there is no wind or it's too cloudy out....

 

[Disstevefan1]

If it is so fantastic , why the long delays at Flamanville ?s
Also as someone who remebers the Chernobyl incident and lives within "spitting distance" of said French nuclear station it is easy to understand why people are wary of Nuclear.

Looks like the THIRD reactor at Flamanville is delayed over safety concerns? The right reason to delay a nuke reactor we would agree. And we all agree nuke power is scary to folks regardless of the safety record.

It's like air travel, much safer than driving, but when something goes wrong, most of the time ALOT of folks are affected..

 

[JoeCamel]

I think it's because France generates 71% of their power from nuke, it frees them up to roll the dice and play around with wind and solar.. Wind and solar power makes the folks in France feel good, AND they got nuke power to fall back on when there is no wind or it's too cloudy out....

More like their lack of uranium mines. Japan was dependent on coal they didn't have so they went nuke to diversify

 

[ppete1975]

Nuclear power is the only available (that matters) viable (also mattes) energy production option that could actually reduce global emissions without re-inventing the global wheel - as it were. Nuclear could fill the gap until renewable energy sources come of age, and more importantly, battery storage is massively increased. At this point renewables biggest issue is storage, not production.

But, people are scared of it, and apparently unwilling to learn about new mini reactors and other technologies that have been developed that use much less fuel without hardly any risk. I say "hardly any risk" b/c any power plant that can produce enough energy to power an entire city is going to inherently have some risk involved in the production.

/rant

PS - Disney having a nuclear reactor would only be cool with me if it was called Darth Vader's Reactor Adventure, or Cruella's 101 Atoms Smasher.....

The green deal has all nuclear in the us closed. Disney would never spend the billions or trillions (never built one lol) this would cost.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Nuclear energy actually saves lives every year. It doesn't emit and pollution so people don't die from disease related to air pollution. I don't remember the exact numbers but you can look it up.

 

[DisneyGentlemanV2.0]

I think we should focus on a more likely event...

...like what would happen to Spaceship Earth when a comet hits it.

 

[Joebradley62]

I guess we will store the nuclear waste at your house.

Do a little research. The waste argument is tired and fraught with bad information.

 

[King Panda 77]

I think we should focus on a more likely event...

...like what would happen to Spaceship Earth when a comet hits it.

judging by your avatar. It looks like Comet already hit Spaceship Earth ...

 

[Joebradley62]

I wasn't really disagreeing with you, in fact I take most of your points, however, in the public sphere, those three incidents are permanently burned in our collective minds and will continue to serve as a roadblock to future plants for some time to come.

What really killed new nuclear is the anti nuclear lobby lawsuit after lawsuit forcing more and more regulatory hurdles driving costs sky high, just so they can now say it is too expensive. Couple this with the fact that we killed the capability in our country to forge the vessels required and it is now overseas and expensive. The expertise to build the plants is also dwindling. Renewable is a great word but there is no such thing as 100% renewable.

 

[Joebradley62]

Nuclear power is perfectly safe as long as you believe competent humans will be around to oversee it without any wars, politics, civil unrest, natural disaster, incompetence, etc getting in the way for around 10,000 years. Which human history definitely proves is the case. ;-)

Actually new Westinghouse designs are completely passive safety systems no power or human interaction required. War, politics, natural disaster doesn't really matter.

 

[Joebradley62]

From the NRC Backgrounder on the TMI incident: (emphasis mine)...
"The Three Mile Island Unit 2 reactor, near Middletown, Pa., partially melted down on March 28, 1979. This was the most serious accident in U.S. commercial nuclear power plant operating history, although its small radioactive releases had no detectable health effects on plant workers or the public. Its aftermath brought about sweeping changes involving emergency response planning, reactor operator training, human factors engineering, radiation protection, and many other areas of nuclear power plant operations. It also caused the NRC to tighten and heighten its regulatory oversight. All of these changes significantly enhanced U.S. reactor safety. "

Those releases were quite small. You get more dose when you fly cross country than if you stood at the fence during the whole TMI incident from beginning until today.

 

[Joebradley62]

After I asked France, I discovered that they are currently attempting to reduce their dependence on nuclear power and instead rely more on solar and wind power. 71% of their power supply comes from nuclear plants and they want to reduce that figure to 50%. I wonder why?

It costs too much compared to any other source. Natural gas is dirt cheap wind and solar, after initial capital outlay, only have maintenance costs.

 

[Joebradley62]

The problem with nuclear power is that is safe until it is not. See 3 Mile Island, Chernobyl, and the most recent meltdown in Japan for examples. When a meltdown occurs, people die, cancer rates spike, and the land becomes unusable. A little different than if a nasty, pollution-spewing, coal plant goes down.
And then there’s the nuclear waste...

Americans get a lot of power from nuclear power plants, so I am not against nuclear power as whole. It is just not the cure all that some people seem to think it is.

Nobody died at TMI. Japan was stupid and did not protect their backup power sources from catastrophe. Chernobyl was driven by politics and very very bad decision making in relation to a test they didnt have to do. Turkey point nuclear plant near homestead Florida took a direct hit from a cat 5 hurricane and is still running today. Just saying.

 

[Joebradley62]

I'm about 5 miles away from ours and guess what? I sleep well. It is so foolish to worry about things like that when there are a jillion things that can kill us just outside, and sometimes inside our homes and ourselves. Nuclear power has a dangerous side, but, your chances of getting killed crossing the street are probably higher then a melt down, unless it's one that Homer Simpson works at.

Way higher chance of traffic related death or injury! LOL.

 

[Joebradley62]

As a SC resident whose electric bill skyrocketed as a result of these corruption-ridden disasters (until voters had to repeatedly sue our own legislature to freeze rates during the investigation) and will most likely suffer massive rate increases for decades to pay for the never-built plants, I'm leery of all the good press this style of plant has received.

Maybe in the hands of a private corporation, like TWDC, the inefficiencies and flagrant corruption that killed the SC plants could be avoided.

Government ruins everything. Ha ha. Actually the real problem is the prime contractor going bankrupt is the real culprit as we have almost lost the ability in this country to build anything on this scale anymore.

 

[Joebradley62]

Three Mile Island was a great example of how safe US nuclear plants really are. Everything that possibly could've gone wrong did yet nobody was killed or injured and only an insignificant amount of radiation leaked out of the reactor bldg. It should be used as a example of how safe US nuclear power really is.

People only believe what they want. Your point is exactly right but Hollywood Jane Fonda, Michael Douglas want you to think something else. I dont think they could have screwed up any more if they tried at TMI and yet as you say not much happened with regards to people.

 

[larryz]

Those releases were quite small. You get more dose when you fly cross country than if you stood at the fence during the whole TMI incident from beginning until today.

The statement was "no radiation was released." I posted a link to the NRC's report on the incident. It's quite clear how serious that situation was if you read the whole thing. They were lucky and learned quite a bit about unforeseen design issues.

 

[Joebradley62]

The statement was "no radiation was released."

I've told him a million times to stop exaggerating!

 

[monothingie]

Just wanted to point out that this wouldn't have been an issue if they hadn't acquired certain 21CF IP.