News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

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Witchy Chick

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No they didn't. Your post is factually incorrect.

They went to weekly reporting like a lot of other places. There has been no falsifying of data found. Don't post baseless garbage.

Correct, Florida has gone to weekly reporting vice daily.

6/29: 2240 daily cases
7/6: 3392 daily cases
7/13: 6492 (!!!) daily cases
(tripled cases in 2 weeks, doubled cases in 1 week)
7/19: 7574 daily cases

Florida’s daily cases graph now has a spike up to/just beyond the April Spring Break/Easter spike (6419 daily cases 4/11)

Source: JHU Coronovirus Resource Center

I’d be very interested to see how many of these current 7500 cases are kids.
 

Touchdown

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Masks help. Study after study shows that they help prevent transmission, and they do a great job of it if everyone wears them.
They do an adaquate job in the real world, provided your contact with an infected person is less then 15 minutes. That’s not great that’s adaquate. It used to be the only thing we had, but we no have vaccines which do a great job of preventing Covid. The pushback you are getting is that people who opted for the great protection don’t want, and based on studies so far don’t need that protection 95% of the time.

Children seem to not get severe disease. We are incredibly lucky that way, believe me that if evidence started tilting towards children being affected and a mask helped them I would change my mind, but right now there is no evidence.

Lastly the chuckleheads who are refusing the vaccine have for the most part also refused masks. So I don’t understand how, outside of a few circumstances me wearing a mask is anything but virtue signaling.

Jumping back to Disney, the restrictions aren’t coming back unless we have vaccine breakthrough or a spike in severe cases in children, period. It’s hurts them financially, is widely unpopular, and their competitors are unlikely to institute them. This is the way.
 

KrzyKtty

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Not true at all.

I say every day we should have a vaccine passport.

I am told every day that the party that has complete control of the federal government is “powerless” to do anything.
Complete control over the government is a little bit of a stretch since they don't have 60 members in the Senate. It's split 50/50.
 

PrincessNelly_NJ

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Otterhead

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No they didn't. Your post is factually incorrect.

They went to weekly reporting like a lot of other places. There has been no falsifying of data found. Don't post baseless garbage.
Here ya go.
They fired the person in charge of the COVID reporting because she refused to falsify data under orders from DeSantis.
Then they raided her house and arrested her when she put up a website that collated Florida's realistic COVID data.

 
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DisneyCane

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Here ya go.
They fired the person in charge of the COVID reporting because she refused to falsify data under orders from DeSantis.
Then they raided her house and arrested her when she put up a website that collated Florida's realistic COVID data.


That's what SHE said. Her issue was the way they were determining the positive test percentage, not the case numbers. The dashboard she made after she was fired used the data from the state. It was just presented differently for some things (namely test positivity) than the official dashboard.

Her "realistic" data was the same as the supposedly "falsified" data therefore nothing was falsified. The raw data was (I don't know if it still is) available for anybody to download and analyze. There was nothing altered or falsified like she (or you) imply.

Edit: She also didn't like that the dashboard didn't include non-residents in the daily numbers so she put those on her dashboard. Again, the data for non-residents was available and included in the aggregate totals on the official dashboard. They just weren't included on the daily bars on the chart.
 

Otterhead

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There was nothing altered or falsified like she (or you) imply.
That's your interpretation of the situation, taking the governor's side of things.

It's true that I believe the scientist's version of the story (that the governor ordered her to be fired when she refused to falsify data, and that Florida's Covid data continues to be manipulated and downplayed) more than I believe Mr DeSantis, since he has a financial and political vested interest in keeping numbers low.
 

Otterhead

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All Guests (ages 2 and up, including those who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19) are required to wear face coverings indoors.
For what it's worth, the Disney Cruises have always taken huge pains to keep people healthy on board.

Everything is cleaned and sanitized daily, and you're not allowed in any of the dining areas or to come on board without either washing your hands or using hand sanitizer; they have "squirt crews" flanking the doors.
 

DisneyCane

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That's your interpretation of the situation, taking the governor's side of things.

It's true that I believe the scientist's version of the story (that the governor ordered her to be fired when she refused to falsify data, and that Covid data continues to be manipulated and downplayed) more than I believe Mr DeSantis, since he has a financial and political vested interest in keeping numbers low.
Believe what you want but what she put out on her dashboard as the "real" data was the same data that was available from the state. Also, every county has access to their own raw data (as evidenced by what Orange County keeps publishing). Don't you think that if there was data being falsified, the counties with Democratic leadership would have been pointing out the discrepancies?

Also, she wasn't fired. She was reassigned to a different role.
 

Trauma

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Complete control over the government is a little bit of a stretch since they don't have 60 members in the Senate. It's split 50/50.
True I’m still trying to figure out if they could have used budget reconciliation to provide a vaccine stimulus reward.

That would have only required the 50 votes and couldn’t be stopped.

I don’t understand the exact intricacies of that.
 

Bob Harlem

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Make sense. Disney has to find a balance between returning to service and protecting their target audience of families with young children.
I was on a Royal Caribbean cruise a few weeks ago (Freedom of the Seas out of Miami, the only RCCL going from the US until this week), Disney is taking the same approach they did. Masks inside, outside not needed. Folks that were vaccinated had purple bands and could enter the "Vax only" areas inside. Dining was split between unvax groups and vax groups (by floor), if anyone in a group (I.e. kids) were in the UnVax they would go in the unvaxed area (Which was every other table, pretty well spaced out). The whole cruise probably was somewhere between 30-40% of the normal capacity -- think Disney/Universal last summer before the throngs of people came back

Buffets were served by the crew, you just pointed/asked for something and they would give it to you. The whole thing went pretty smoothly to be honest. Just be aware you are at the mercy of the ports with rules though, if you had unvaxxed you had to get cruise line sponsored shore excursions to get off (Except at the private island/Coco Cay) although if you had kids either someone could stay back or drop the kid off in the kids club (Which had limited capacity too) you could go ashore if you are vaccinated. Also getting on board took a while, unvaxxed got tested at the port, just the swab test for kids (not the brain tickler) and that took about 30-40 minutes to get the results back before you could move forward.

Royal is the only cruise line doing what Disney is doing, (Carnival and Celebrity are not since they skipped the test cruise. ), MSC will be too late next week though.
 

Figgy1

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Yay. Another situation where 2 year olds are required to wear masks because?? Science?? Lol

I guess the appropriate response to someone who has an issue with this would be, “well if you don’t like it, don’t go. No one is forcing you.” :hilarious: :rolleyes:
Every time I think I've convinced my dh to do a cruise(pre current situation) some ship has some type of breakout so we're not planning on getting on a floating petri dish in the near future
 
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