Disney Glimpses
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If masks return, the anti-vaxxers win. And by the way, then they really won't get vaccinated.
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Disney Glimpses
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If the CDC makes a new recommendation on vaccinated people wearing masks in public spaces where unvaccinated people are present, then Disney will follow suit.
pdude81
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They weren't getting vaccinated with or without mask mandates. Also I'm not sure how anybody "wins" when case counts rise and we all have to be more careful.
And so far all evidence points to this not happening.
Tony the Tigger
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Yet they did before vaccines, so this is yet another false statement.
False.
Bingo!
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Someone was nice enough to post this article in another thread.
What The Latest Science Shows About Breakthrough Cases
With news about vaccinated people getting coronavirus infections, should you be worried? How common are breakthrough infections? Here's what scientists know and what they're trying to learn.
www.npr.org
Tony the Tigger
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Incorrect. It could have been worse.
Disney Glimpses
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Dude, no it could not have been worse. We have had more death than any state in the country; including those with no mask mandates. Including your state. Don't sit here and tell me it could have been worse when we had it the worst and we were the ones wearing the masks. ALL OF US.
No one seems to give a crap to the fact that literally every state with mask mandates lead the country in cases, deaths. Completely blissfully ignorant of it. But yeah, they were a huge help. To the point we're actually debating them while we have a vaccine. Such a joke.
Otterhead
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I get it, you believe facemasks do absolutely nothing and, as you say, you don't trust any studies, data, or science on it because people were dying while there was a mask mandate. You've made that clear.
Here's the thing: nobody's saying that masks prevent Covid. Some people wear crappy masks, or take them off, or wear them with their nose sticking out (which makes the mask worthless). Or they hang out with friends indoors without masks, then find out one person's covid-positive, and there's infections. There's tons of variables here.
But study after study, ever since the Spanish Flu (where mask mandates saved millions of lives), show that they HELP. They absolutely help prevent the spread of a deadly disease. I know you reject science and studies, so you aren't gonna listen to these actual facts, but that's your choice.
Otterhead
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The states with mask mandates were also the most populous. Thus: more people, thus, more deaths.
Unless your theory is that masks cause Covid? Because otherwise I have no idea what you're getting at.
Disney Glimpses
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a lot of people think this. a lot.
Otterhead
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masks are extremely effective at preventing diseases from being transmitted, if everyone wears them. Even lousy masks help.
But people are people. They wear them wrong, they take them off to drink coffee, they take them off to have a phone call, they take them off to cough and sneeze, even. Masks aren't a perfect or ideal solution. But they help, a lot. I'm not sure why anybody from any political standpoint would be opposed to something that helps.
Otterhead
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Florida shut down their Covid number reporting, and was found to be falsifying the data, so please don't post lies here.
Disney Glimpses
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This would be a good argument about a year ago. Regardless of what you believe, vaccines are exponentially more effective at saving lives. The return of masks would be a step backwards.
Haha, there's always some unprovable response when proven wrong.
"Florida is lying"
"It would have been worse"
Otterhead
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You... uh... can't "prove somebody wrong" by posting lies and laughing. I mean, it might make you feel good about yourself, but it's still wrong. Gov. DeSantis stopped the Florida number count and fired the person in charge during the height of the pandemic.
Disney Glimpses
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The CDC estimates that ~40% of NJ residents were infected with COVID so far. Every single person wore a mask in a public setting. "extremely effective"
They are minimally effective at best. Even the studies that support masking note that. They are a piece of the mitigation puzzle.
The level of nastiness that I want to respond with to this comment is immeasurable.
As someone who has served I find this comment utterly insulting.
I don’t wear a mask in public and I’m vaccinated.
So freaking what.
I am still prepared at any time to defend this country.
Something many here could never do, once they realize they had more than a .02 percent chance of death.
Is that a low blow?
Yup.
Well deserved for such a stupid comment.
KrzyKtty
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I might be wrong here, and I completely get as somebody who served your insult to the comment. What I think they meant though wasn't so much fighting as in the soldiers, but the support back home. I have no doubt that our soldiers would go above and beyond in any situation, but especially in another world war situation. However, I can understand after everything that has happened, people losing faith in the communities back home being willing to make large sacrifices to support the troops and more effort appropriately. I read it as they were talking about the concept of rations and manufacturing sacrifices. Going without a car so that the factory could produce tanks. That sort of thing.
Either way, considering how most people did still come together during the pandemic, and 9/11, and other things are the like over the last few decades, I would like to have faith that we would put aside our differences and come together to support the troops appropriately.
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