News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

[Gringrinngghost]

Hearing some very very low mumblings about a possible return come next month. Thank rising cases.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Its a good idea to bring masks no matter what the rule is at the moment as the “science” changes moment to moment…..

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

Hearing some very very low mumblings about a possible return come next month. Thank rising cases.

Cases won't really rise in Florida until the summer though. What would this be based on?

 

[Gringrinngghost]

Cases won't really rise in Florida until the summer though. What would this be based on?

International.

 

[Lilofan]

I'm not talking about flight attendants enforcing the rules. I asked (and continue to wonder) why somebody who is not in a position of authority (whether in an airport, on a plane or on the monorail or bus at WDW) would risk a possible violent confrontation to be the self appointed mask police.

If you actually read the rules put out, passengers on transportation aren't required by "federal law" to wear a mask. The carriers (airlines or Disney if they are really required to follow the mandate) are required "use best efforts" to ensure that the passengers are wearing masks. I don't have to wear one on the monorail because you told me to. Disney is supposed to have a policy and their employees are supposed to "use best efforts" to make me wear one. If you aren't on the clock working for Disney, there is no requirement upon me for you to enforce.

One would be for a rude awakening if one choose not to wear a mask on a plane currently. As on a recent UA flight, the pilot said he didn't make the mask policy but his team will enforce it and non compliance will be met with consequences. Chances are one would be escorted off the plane by police if one acts out like a Karen.. If you are afraid of a violent confrontation then that's your take on the matter. Others like me see differently

 

[Trauma]

Hearing some very very low mumblings about a possible return come next month. Thank rising cases.

Better chance of MSEP returning than masks.

It’s not happening unless we get a new strain that starts killing everyone.

 

[DisneyCane]

Hearing some very very low mumblings about a possible return come next month. Thank rising cases.

If they do it will save me money and make the decision not to renew my AP in June.

You would be for a rude awakening if you choose not to wear a mask on a plane currently. Chances are you would be escorted off the plane by police if one acts out like a Karen.

. I posted FACTUAL information. Here is the official TSA "security directive" which somehow Disney determined applies to them. Please cite where it states that a person is subject to any penalty for noncompliance.

It states the following:

G. Owner/Operators must establish procedures to manage situations with persons who refuse to comply with the requirement to wear a mask. At a minimum, these procedures must ensure that if an individual refuses to comply with an instruction given by the owner/operator with respect to wearing a mask, the owner/operator must: 1. Deny boarding; 2. Make best efforts to disembark the individual as soon as practicable; or 3. Make best efforts to remove the individual from the transportation hub/facility.

H. If an individual's refusal to comply with the mask requirement constitutes a significant security concern, the owner/operator must repo1i the incident to the Transportation Security Operations Center (TSOC) at 1-866-615-5150 or 1-703-563-3240 in accordance with 49 CFR 1570.203.

I was just on a 4+ hour flight 2 days ago. A man across the aisle sat unmasked for two periods of at least 30 minutes with a drink on his tray. Flight attendants passed him several times and didn't even pause and look at him. I was unmasked for a good 45 minutes in aggregate and was not escorted off the plane by police.

Law enforcement will only get involved if there is a confrontation involving verbal or physical abuse. I would bet that if I boarded the monorail and took my mask off when it left the station there would be no consequence at all. Even if a CM saw me getting off they aren't going to detain me. They don't have the authority to do so and neither does Disney security. Personally my solution is to avoid monorails and busses.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Hearing some very very low mumblings about a possible return come next month. Thank rising cases.

Not sure I buy that. They shouldn’t care much about cases in China and if they were worried about Europe, they wouldn’t still be removing controls at DLP, and they are. Cases are already declining in much of Europe where they had risen.

Doesn’t pass the smell test.

Restrictions in Asian parks? Sure.

 

[Lilofan]

If they do it will save me money and make the decision not to renew my AP in June.

I posted FACTUAL information. Here is the official TSA "security directive" which somehow Disney determined applies to them. Please cite where it states that a person is subject to any penalty for noncompliance.

It states the following:




I was just on a 4+ hour flight 2 days ago. A man across the aisle sat unmasked for two periods of at least 30 minutes with a drink on his tray. Flight attendants passed him several times and didn't even pause and look at him. I was unmasked for a good 45 minutes in aggregate and was not escorted off the plane by police.

Law enforcement will only get involved if there is a confrontation involving verbal or physical abuse. I would bet that if I boarded the monorail and took my mask off when it left the station there would be no consequence at all. Even if a CM saw me getting off they aren't going to detain me. They don't have the authority to do so and neither does Disney security. Personally my solution is to avoid monorails and busses.

Passengers that refuse to wear their mask after being told by crew are escorted off a plane by law enforcement not even getting into a verbal or physical incident before take off. It happened a few months ago in my area.

 

[AmishGuy91]

Passengers that refuse to wear their mask after being told by crew are escorted off a plane by law enforcement not even getting into a verbal or physical incident before take off. It happened a few months ago in my area.

Right, but to his point, and to my experience last week, nobody is enforcing it anymore on planes or especially in airports.

 

[Lilofan]

Right, but to his point, and to my experience last week, nobody is enforcing it anymore on planes or especially in airports.

That's not true recently at Orlando MCO.

 

[AmishGuy91]

That's not true recently at Orlando MCO.

It was two weeks ago......easily 15% without masks and I never saw anyone addressing it. Every other time I've traveled since Covid has basically been 100% masks.

 

[DisneyCane]

Passengers that refuse to wear their mask after being told by crew are escorted off a plane by law enforcement not even getting into a verbal or physical incident before take off. It happened a few months ago in my area.

I guess I should have stated more clearly what I was trying to express. I was meaning to say that the passenger who refuses to mask will not face any legal consequences for refusing to wear a mask. What you described is no different than Disney ejecting somebody from a park for a rule violation but asking an Orange County Sheriff's deputy to assist and escort the guest off property. As long as the Disney rule wasn't a law, the guest would not face any legal consequences, they'd just be escorted.

Right, but to his point, and to my experience last week, nobody is enforcing it anymore on planes or especially in airports.

Last week all of the major airline CEOs sent a letter to the President asking for the mandate to be dropped. Even the United CEO signed it and he has been the most COVID strict of any of them.

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

One would be for a rude awakening if one choose not to wear a mask on a plane currently. As on a recent UA flight, the pilot said he didn't make the mask policy but his team will enforce it and non compliance will be met with consequences. Chances are one would be escorted off the plane by police if one acts out like a Karen. Don't spread misinformation. If you are afraid of a violent confrontation then that's your take on the matter. Others like me see differently

My friends family just flew and said they didn’t mask at all. No one said anything. Guess it’s up to the crew.

 

[correcaminos]

Right, but to his point, and to my experience last week, nobody is enforcing it anymore on planes or especially in airports.

Yes they are. But none of this has to do with Disney Mask Policy.

I guess I should have stated more clearly what I was trying to express. I was meaning to say that the passenger who refuses to mask will not face any legal consequences for refusing to wear a mask. What you described is no different than Disney ejecting somebody from a park for a rule violation but asking an Orange County Sheriff's deputy to assist and escort the guest off property. As long as the Disney rule wasn't a law, the guest would not face any legal consequences, they'd just be escorted.



Last week all of the major airline CEOs sent a letter to the President asking for the mandate to be dropped. Even the United CEO signed it and he has been the most COVID strict of any of them.

You can be fined. If you are too confrontational you can face criminal charges.

My friends family just flew and said they didn’t mask at all. No one said anything. Guess it’s up to the crew.

Why do people do this and think it's okay. All the flights I've been on in the last year have enforced and made it a point to say please don’t make their lives miserable.

Let me be blunt here. If someone cannot or willingly wants to not follow rules, stay home. I would be livid if my plans were messed up because of someone trying to skirt rules.

 

[Heelz2315]

Sorry I need to vent here....if cases are rising as of today, that's not the case in the country, and Florida. Also I have been trying to find out how in the world WDW decides to impose or lift indoor masks and haven't found that out yet. IF they go by the CDC, that new metric for indoor mask guidance is based on hospitalizations, please correct me if I'm wrong.

As long as they don't go crazy, and WDW goes by the CDC, rising cases won't be enough to push WDW back to indoor masks.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

It isn't misinformation. I guess I should have stated more clearly what I was trying to express. I was meaning to say that the passenger who refuses to mask will not face any legal consequences for refusing to wear a mask. What you described is no different than Disney ejecting somebody from a park for a rule violation but asking an Orange County Sheriff's deputy to assist and escort the guest off property. As long as the Disney rule wasn't a law, the guest would not face any legal consequences, they'd just be escorted.



Except for @Lilofan. Last week all of the major airline CEOs sent a letter to the President asking for the mandate to be dropped. Even the United CEO signed it and he has been the most COVID strict of any of them.

No legal consequences? I'm not sure what gave you that idea. There are definitely legal consequences. Whether the individual refusing to follow the rule cares about those consequences probably varies from person to person, but it's false to say that there are no consequences.

TSA to double minimum fines for travelers who refuse to wear masks to $500

Fines for refusing to wear a mask at U.S. airports will double to $500 up to $3,000.

www.cnbc.com

Travelers who refuse to wear masks could soon face fines of up to $3,000.

The Transportation Security Administration on Thursday said it is doubling fines for travelers who won’t follow a federal mask mandate for air, bus and other forms of transportation. Minimum fines will double, starting at $500, and go up to $3,000 for repeat offenders.

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

Y. Why do people do this and think it's okay. All the flights I've been on in the last year have enforced and made it a point to say please don’t make their lives miserable.

Let me be blunt here. If someone cannot or willingly wants to not follow rules, stay home. I would be livid if my plans were messed up because of someone trying to skirt rules.

I just said nothing happened. What are you talking about?

 

[correcaminos]

I just said nothing happened. What are you talking about?

That they thought it was a good idea to begin with. It is rude beyond words to risk other's flights because one doesn’t mask at all. Putting FAs in a crappy position is not something I'd brag about.

Like the stupid vlogger on the monorail whining about masks and ripping it off in front of a CM who just had told us all to keep masks on as they started to walk away. It is rude as all get out and putting workers in a crappy position.

 

[correcaminos]

Sorry I need to vent here....if cases are rising as of today, that's not the case in the country, and Florida. Also I have been trying to find out how in the world WDW decides to impose or lift indoor masks and haven't found that out yet. IF they go by the CDC, that new metric for indoor mask guidance is based on hospitalizations, please correct me if I'm wrong.

As long as they don't go crazy, and WDW goes by the CDC, rising cases won't be enough to push WDW back to indoor masks.

Stop stressing... your trip will be fine They aren’t even going by CDC metrics. They dropped indoor when the levels were much higher and barely past the peak.