News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

[GhostHost1000]

At some point, probably soon, the military will require the vaccine. That will open up unit commanders to prohibiting service people under them from visiting with unvaccinated family members due to unit readiness requirements. That plus opening it up to under 12 year olds, and massive employers issuing requirements, will get us to something around 90%, and then we’re set.

It’ll be interesting to watch for sure. There could be a lot of lawsuits there however I don’t know.

Again I got the shot as soon as I could along with my daughter so while I seem countering a lot of people on here I'm trying to help everyone look through the political crap we all have to wade through everywhere we look. The reality is there are many things with all of this that doesn’t make sense and keeps changing back and forth so public trust is very low and don’t tell me it’s because the science keeps changing…communication alone has been botched from the beginning. Unfortunately many who haven’t gotten the shot yet won’t. Then where do we go from here.

 

[mrs grumpy]

What is your guess. Do you think Disney will drop the masks once the numbers go back down or will they keep them for a while? We have a trip planned for the end of January and wondering if I should be looking more into our backup plan.

 

[mikejs78]

Well let’s think about it. The delta variant didn’t come from the US so it came across the border. With it being a free for all open border with no testing and then they are being bussed all over the south when they arrive illegally rather than sent back, how could stricter border control not help? It would help a lot more that face fabric that didn’t help much the first time

Even if we locked down the boarder and had universal testing, Delta would have made it in. Testing isn't foolproof.

so then when is this all going to end? Are we going to learn to live with covid or are we going to wear masks and hide forever? Half aren’t going to get the shot whether we want them to or not and those that have apparently can still carry covid so where do we go from here because requiring everyone even those vaccinated to wear masks again isn’t going to help those unvaccinated get a shot. In fact it may even keep them from it more

Vaccine mandates/passports/etc. It will come because the majority who are vaccinated are getting sick of all this.

It’ll be interesting to watch for sure. There could be a lot of lawsuits there however I don’t know.

Again I got the shot as soon as I could along with my daughter so while I seem countering a lot of people on here I'm trying to help everyone look through the political crap we all have to wade through everywhere we look. The reality is there are many things with all of this that doesn’t make sense and keeps changing back and forth so public trust is very low and don’t tell me it’s because the science keeps changing…communication alone has been botched from the beginning. Unfortunately many who haven’t gotten the shot yet won’t. Then where do we go from here.

Courts have consistently held that vaccines can be required by businesses, the government, etc. No reason this would be any different, especially once full FDA approval comes in a month or two.

 

[mikejs78]

What is your guess. Do you think Disney will drop the masks once the numbers go back down or will they keep them for a while? We have a trip planned for the end of January and wondering if I should be looking more into our backup plan.

Probably drop them once central Florida falls below the threshold the CDC defined.

 

[zulemara]

I've been firmly in the "wear a mask" category throughout COVID and before it even hit the U.S. as I was in South Korea when it was breaking out in February 2020. However, once the vaccine and the data surrounding it became available, I am finding it harder to accept that people's choice not to take a vaccine means I have to wear a mask. I am not the risk to others. And since when did the number of cases become the sole focus? The whole point of the lockdowns and masks was to prevent people from dying. At this point the people dying are the ones who didn't get the vaccine, the vast majority of which COULD get the vaccine but choose not to. #choices
I am open to data that proves otherwise, but so far I haven't seen it.

 

[pdude81]

I know it’s easy to blame all the unvaccinated folks which is fine but If the delta variant never made it in the US across the border we wouldn’t be having this problem right now. That would have been an easy and smart thing to prevent during a global pandemic but again politics > public health and covid transmission in this country which continues to be swept under the rug.

What about us citizens returning from foreign countries? Also remember incubation periods

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well that made the thread grow quite a bit more.

The finger of blame lies squarely with a certain section of society. We all have the ability of speeding up a return to a more normal reality.

you’re not starting trouble, are you?

There will likely be many reservations being cancelled today

There will be a lot of threats of cancel…that’s not the same thing.

 

[legwand77]

What is your guess. Do you think Disney will drop the masks once the numbers go back down or will they keep them for a while? We have a trip planned for the end of January and wondering if I should be looking more into our backup plan.

The chances of masks being around in January are highly likely as that is when cases are the highest. Wouldn’t be surprised if they move to both indoor outdoor by then. The number of people vaccinated is not going to make a difference on requiring masks, obviously it does help an individual to be vaccinated. They are primarily looking at cases as the metric. the reason vaccinated are having to wear masks is because vaccinated are getting infected and spreading the virus as well. That is still going to happen if 100% got vaccinated. You are still going to have cases above whatever threshold.

 

[TehPuddingMan]

Although indoor masking is a good first step, it might not be enough. Making Guests wear masks while indoors costs Disney nothing.

People will be standing in line for 30 to 60 minutes next to others who are only a couple of feet away.

If Disney were serious about this, they'd also reduce theme park capacity and reinstitute social distancing. But these impact Disney's bottom line.

Come on Disney, do the right thing.

That is not what the CDC recommended.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Even if we locked down the boarder and had universal testing, Delta would have made it in. Testing isn't foolproof.





Vaccine mandates/passports/etc. It will come because the majority who are vaccinated are getting sick of all this.

Courts have consistently held that vaccines can be required by businesses, the government, etc. No reason this would be any different, especially once full FDA approval comes in a month or two.

I’m not saying delta wouldn’t have ever found a way in but if we are trying to protect the country from this why not do that as well as rely on Face cloth?

I agree but I’m not sure some of that is constitutional. It’ll be interesting to watch for sure. I wouldn’t mind Disney requiring vaccine passports if things were normal there again but I don’t know if they can or would

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I've been firmly in the "wear a mask" category throughout COVID and before it even hit the U.S. as I was in South Korea when it was breaking out in February 2020. However, once the vaccine and the data surrounding it became available, I am finding it harder to accept that people's choice not to take a vaccine means I have to wear a mask. I am not the risk to others. And since when did the number of cases become the sole focus? The whole point of the lockdowns and masks was to prevent people from dying. At this point the people dying are the ones who didn't get the vaccine, the vast majority of which COULD get the vaccine but choose not to. #choices
I am open to data that proves otherwise, but so far I haven't seen it.

I totally respect your stance…

the problem is “individual choice” just does not work in this country anymore. It’s a big ball of hate…we don’t make choices based on anything but what we want in the spur of the moment…and long-standing economic grievances and social fears are being manifested outloud in a way of misdirection from social media, entertainment, etc that only deepens the chasms.

sorry for the philosophy…but this was never about one Man or one virus or one vaccine.

 

[mgf]

I've been firmly in the "wear a mask" category throughout COVID and before it even hit the U.S. as I was in South Korea when it was breaking out in February 2020. However, once the vaccine and the data surrounding it became available, I am finding it harder to accept that people's choice not to take a vaccine means I have to wear a mask. I am not the risk to others. And since when did the number of cases become the sole focus? The whole point of the lockdowns and masks was to prevent people from dying. At this point the people dying are the ones who didn't get the vaccine, the vast majority of which COULD get the vaccine but choose not to. #choices
I am open to data that proves otherwise, but so far I haven't seen it.

Kids 0-11 have not had a chance to be vaccinated. I will be more open to your argument once everyone (or at least at the decision of their guardian) has actually had a reasonable opportunity to be vaccinated. Millions are still waiting.

 

[GhostHost1000]

you’re not starting trouble, are you?


There will be a lot of threats of cancel…that’s not the same thing.

While it’s not my main job I am a travel agent on the side and had a few cancel last night or send me a note to cancel/reschedule already.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m not saying delta wouldn’t have ever found a way in but if we are trying to protect the country from this why not do that as well as rely on Face cloth?

I agree but I’m not sure some of that is constitutional. It’ll be interesting to watch for sure. I wouldn’t mind Disney requiring vaccine passports if things were normal there again but I don’t know if they can or would

The only thing that can be interpreted as “constitutional” that can be applied to a viral plague is actually in the preamble…and it’s being interpreted wrong.

this isn’t a first issue…

and Madison himself would probably tell you not to read what isn’t there so people can twist it for power and money…and that’s the same old crap going on as always.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

While it’s not my main job I am a travel agent on the side and had a few cancel last night or send me a note to cancel/reschedule already.

Enough to move the needle?

I’d bet the under on that.

 

[GhostHost1000]

The only thing that can be interpreted as “constitutional” that can be applied to a viral plague is actually in the preamble…and it’s being interpreted wrong.

this isn’t a first issue…

and Madison himself would probably tell you not to read what isn’t there so people can twist it for power and money…and that’s the same old crap going on as always.

I agree with that. We’ll see how it goes. It is definitely going to be interesting to watch

 

[GhostHost1000]

Enough to move the needle?

I’d bet the under on that.

Probably not through me but if a few have cancelled or rescheduled that I’ve booked (and I don’t do that many) I suspect it’s happening or will happen with most others as well to some capacity

don’t forget just the look of going back to mask mandates could scare people from going now too where it is or appears worse now so it’s not just those that don’t want to mask

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

the chances of masks being around in January are highly likely as that is when cases are the highest. Wouldn’t be surprised if they move to both indoor outdoor by then.

Unfortunately…you are probably right.

the problem with losing august/September is we are going to run into the fall season and see normal virus propagation…

so “the 50th” maybe behind the face diaper till next april/may

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Probably not through me but if a few have cancelled or rescheduled that I’ve booked (and I don’t do that many) I suspect it’s happening or will happen with most others as well to some capacity

don’t forget just the look of going back to mask mandates could scare people from going now too where it is or appears worse now so it’s not just those that don’t want to mask

I think that’s probably gonna be the lions share and that sentiment has been building for several weeks

people have this “thing” about not wanting to be sick and hurting/killing someone they know

 

[MKFanatic]

Although indoor masking is a good first step, it might not be enough. Making Guests wear masks while indoors costs Disney nothing.

People will be standing in line for 30 to 60 minutes next to others who are only a couple of feet away.

If Disney were serious about this, they'd also reduce theme park capacity and reinstitute social distancing. But these impact Disney's bottom line.

Come on Disney, do the right thing.

Disney is not in the business of Covid mitigation. They’ll do what the CDC guidelines suggest. No way they voluntarily impose restrictions that affect their profits. They’re probably sick and tired of all this like we are.