disney locals help me!

RustySpork

Oscar Mayer Memer
hi everyone!

my husband and i are planning on "moving to the magic" in the spring from the midwest. right now we live in an awesome city and i am trying to find a place similar, near disney. we currently live in a super safe suburb. our townhouse is walking distance to 100s of different shops, cafes, bars, restaurants, the library, etc etc. bike paths everywhere.. i could go on and on. what are some nearby cities to disney that sound similar to what i am describing? we will be renting and don't particularly want to spend an arm and a leg on rent (there goes Celebration, lol) if anyone has any suggestions i would appreciate it!

How close do you want to be to WDW? There are multiple small communities that give you the same vibe that you have, although you probably won't find hundreds of shops, cafes, bars, etc. Baldwin Park, Thornton Park, Audubon Park, Winter Park, Avalon Park, Celebration, Downtown Winter Garden, The Milk District, Mills 50, etc. Many of these communities mix town homes and single family homes around a central downtown area.
 

Dave B

Well-Known Member
Rather than retype, I'm just going to copy/paste my response from another "Relocating to Orlando" thread:



The ONLY situation in which I would move back to Orlando is if I had a well-paying job and a house in a private community within 5 minutes of Disney. (There's that "magic bubble" that you want to live within. The outside world is horrible.) I would never rent there, I would never raise a family there, and I would never move there in hopes of finding a job. Get your ducks in a row before making this move. Best wishes.

- Lauren
Thank you
 

Demeter Tess

Well-Known Member
This has nothing to do with Orlando. Check.
First of all, I clearly stated that my response was copy/pasted from a separate thread. That thread happened to deal with the teacher job market and quality of public schooling for children in Orlando. That aside, Orange County Public Schools has EVERYTHING to do with Orlando. OCPS is the second-largest employer in Central Florida and services millions of students yearly. Their gross mismanagement affects the entirety of the area and perpetuates a culture of resentment toward education and work.

Uhh, no. Traffic is bad here, sure. It's not DC bad by any stretch except for a few hours a day on i4. You lived in East Orlando, and worked in Winter Park so you never saw any of that.
I grew up in the MD/DC area. The infrastructure of their roads is much better than that of Orlando and there are multiple routes available to circumvent major traffic clusters. In Orlando, you sit. It doesn't matter if you're on I-4, a toll road, or a local road, you sit. My daily commute took me down 408 and up I-4, so I'm baffled as to why you would imply that I saw no traffic. Additionally it is not simply the lack of infrastructure but the unsafe and abusive drivers that make Orlando traffic such a nightmare.

If you're getting honked at, flipped off, or cut off multiple times a day, you're probably the one doing something wrong. You also didn't have to pay tolls to get to Winter Park from Waterford.
Yes, I suppose it's easier to suggest that one woman (with a clean driving record, nonetheless) is the root of all the aggressive, hostile drivers in Orlando. Now that I've gone back to Texas, surely everyone has resumed being orderly and civil toward one another? ;) Regarding tolls, I paid $20-25/week in tolls on the 408.

Stores everywhere are swamped with people, this is not an Orlando thing either.
I live in DFW and do not have to park across the road to visit the mall on a weekday (or a weekend, for that matter). I do not have to weed my way through swarms of people in order to shop. Folks say "excuse me" as they pass in the aisle and are engaged in conversation at the register. Most importantly, I feel SAFE going out alone to do some shopping after dark. You are correct in that these issues are not unique to Orlando, but they are certainly worth noting to the original poster, who specifically referenced her current location in a midwest suburb within walking distance of shopping.

Uh huh, another mark against you personally.
There's nothing personal about this topic. I am trying to assist a couple who, like my husband and I, have felt compelled to "move to the magic." For the record, we have no regrets about moving to Orlando. It gave us great insight into what we were looking for in a hometown. Rather than forget the whole thing ever happened, I would like to share our experience with other couples looking to make the same move. Many of these people have only seen the "Disney Bubble." If you were considering a cross-country move, wouldn't you like to be aware of issues recently faced by others who have made the same move?

Newsflash, crime happens in all cities.
You are certainly correct, however the original poster references her current location in a "super safe suburb." She states that she enjoys her neighborhood's amenities and bike paths. The crime rate in Orlando is 88/100. The national average is 31/100. To brush this statistic aside with a counter-argument of "crime happens everywhere" is grossly unhelpful to the original poster.

They have services for that. I've lived here most of my life, and aside from a few flies that get in now and then don't have any of these problems. Again, this is a you problem.
Pests are a very real problem for many people in Central Florida. Granted, my social interaction was limited to the teachers at my school, but every one of these ladies lived a very respectable, cleanly lifestyle. And every one of these ladies complained bitterly about pests. It's a hazard of living in a "subtropical paradise." Do not brush this aside as inconsequential to someone who is looking to move to the area.

I'm going to be like the people you claim we are now and thank you for going back to Texas, and taking that high horse with you. :D
My intent in this thread is to assist the original poster in making a solid and informed decision regarding a move to Orlando. Your response has been nothing but personal attacks on my character and heavy-handed attempts to disregard legitimate concerns any person might have in moving to Orlando. Considering the alternative, I am happy to be in Texas on my "high horse," where I am paid a decent wage, feel safe and supported in my community, and have a wonderful quality of life.

You might consider the up and coming area of Pine Hills. But if you want something established go with a Metro West or Orlo Vista.
PLEASE tell me you did not just suggest "Crime Hills" as a viable future home for a couple from a "super safe suburb" in the midwest. :jawdrop: Metro West and Orlovista are almost as bad, being that they border Pine Hills on Colonial Pkwy. The crime rates alone will knock you dead!

- Lauren
 
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Lord Pheonix

Active Member
if you would like an accuarate representation of the rent/mortage costs of areas around disney, goto craigslist, click on the fl state, then the areas. contrary to pop belief, CL isnt a demon spawn of the underbelly of the net. there u will see house prices for all ranges and hoods. find a house u like and use google earth to localize it so you can see the area its in. that will give you the most accurate viewpoint of prices/area/crime i can think of.
 

RustySpork

Oscar Mayer Memer
First of all, I clearly stated that my response was copy/pasted from a separate thread. That thread happened to deal with the teacher job market and quality of public schooling for children in Orlando. That aside, Orange County Public Schools has EVERYTHING to do with Orlando. OCPS is the second-largest employer in Central Florida and services millions of students yearly. Their gross mismanagement affects the entirety of the area and perpetuates a culture of resentment toward education and work.

Thanks for your opinion on schools here, and the reflections of your own attitude pouring through it.

I grew up in the MD/DC area. The infrastructure of their roads is much better than that of Orlando and there are multiple routes available to circumvent major traffic clusters. In Orlando, you sit. It doesn't matter if you're on I-4, a toll road, or a local road, you sit. My daily commute took me down 408 and up I-4, so I'm baffled as to why you would imply that I saw no traffic. Additionally it is not simply the lack of infrastructure but the unsafe and abusive drivers that make Orlando traffic such a nightmare.

Only if you don't know how to get around, or use a map. Again, you're blaming everyone else for your troubles here.


Yes, I suppose it's easier to suggest that one woman (with a clean driving record, nonetheless) is the root of all the aggressive, hostile drivers in Orlando. Now that I've gone back to Texas, surely everyone has resumed being orderly and civil toward one another? ;) Regarding tolls, I paid $20-25/week in tolls on the 408.

Having a clean driving record is not evidence of being a good driver. Again, you paid tolls because you chose to drive on the toll roads. That's not even a remotely optimal route. 50 to 408 to 417 to Aloma would use the toll roads and get you to Winter Park in a fraction of the time. You could also use Semoran or Goldenrod and 50 to completely avoid tolls.

I live in DFW and do not have to park across the road to visit the mall on a weekday (or a weekend, for that matter). I do not have to weed my way through swarms of people in order to shop. Folks say "excuse me" as they pass in the aisle and are engaged in conversation at the register. Most importantly, I feel SAFE going out alone to do some shopping after dark. You are correct in that these issues are not unique to Orlando, but they are certainly worth noting to the original poster, who specifically referenced her current location in a midwest suburb within walking distance of shopping.

Holy entitlement.

There's nothing personal about this topic. I am trying to assist a couple who, like my husband and I, have felt compelled to "move to the magic." For the record, we have no regrets about moving to Orlando. It gave us great insight into what we were looking for in a hometown. Rather than forget the whole thing ever happened, I would like to share our experience with other couples looking to make the same move. Many of these people have only seen the "Disney Bubble." If you were considering a cross-country move, wouldn't you like to be aware of issues recently faced by others who have made the same move?

You're not assisting objectively, you're ranting about nonsense. There's a difference.

You are certainly correct, however the original poster references her current location in a "super safe suburb." She states that she enjoys her neighborhood's amenities and bike paths. The crime rate in Orlando is 88/100. The national average is 31/100. To brush this statistic aside with a counter-argument of "crime happens everywhere" is grossly unhelpful to the original poster.

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You were saying?

Pests are a very real problem for many people in Central Florida. Granted, my social interaction was limited to the teachers at my school, but every one of these ladies lived a very respectable, cleanly lifestyle. And every one of these ladies complained bitterly about pests. It's a hazard of living in a "subtropical paradise." Do not brush this aside as inconsequential to someone who is looking to move to the area.

Again, there are services for that. You'll get pests no matter where you live.

My intent in this thread is to assist the original poster in making a solid and informed decision regarding a move to Orlando. Your response has been nothing but personal attacks on my character and heavy-handed attempts to disregard legitimate concerns any person might have in moving to Orlando. Considering the alternative, I am happy to be in Texas on my "high horse," where I am paid a decent wage, feel safe and supported in my community, and have a wonderful quality of life.

I'm not attacking you personally, but nice try. I love the "decent wage" jab, like we can't earn enough money to live here.

PLEASE tell me you did not just suggest "Crime Hills" as a viable future home for a couple from a "super safe suburb" in the midwest. :jawdrop: Metro West and Orlovista are almost as bad, being that they border Pine Hills on Colonial Pkwy. The crime rates alone will knock you dead!

- Lauren

I'm with you on this one though, stay away from crime hills.
 

Bullseye1967

Is that who I am?
Premium Member
Let's evaluate this nonsense.



This has nothing to do with Orlando. Check.




Uhh, no. Traffic is bad here, sure. It's not DC bad by any stretch except for a few hours a day on i4. You lived in East Orlando, and worked in Winter Park so you never saw any of that.



If you're getting honked at, flipped off, or cut off multiple times a day, you're probably the one doing something wrong. You also didn't have to pay tolls to get to Winter Park from Waterford.



That's not true at all.



Stores everywhere are swamped with people, this is not an Orlando thing either.



Uh huh, another mark against you personally.



Newsflash, crime happens in all cities.



They have services for that. I've lived here most of my life, and aside from a few flies that get in now and then don't have any of these problems. Again, this is a you problem.



I'm going to be like the people you claim we are now and thank you for going back to Texas, and taking that high horse with you. :D

I would have to agree. We lived in Kissimmee right on the Orlando border. We had to moved to Tennessee to take care of my wife's parents. When that obligation is done, we will again return to the Orlando area. We found the people very warm and friendly. My Step daughter went to high school in the Osceola school system. We were very impressed with the school administrators and teachers. The traffic on I 4 could be bad sometimes, but we used 417 for most things. No income tax, no sales tax on food and medications were a plus. Yes there are good and bad areas of Orlando just like any city. You can solve that issue by choosing where you live.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
I personally would rather fly there whenever than actually move to Orlando. Must say, it was a dump the few times I ventured outside WDW.

This is by no means to be taken as fact, but I was not impressed from what I saw.
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
I have a friend who lives in Davenport, and he likes it, FWIW. I'm afraid I myself have never been there though, so I can't advise you much. Perhaps others here in the know could chip in...?
 

Surfin' Tuna

Well-Known Member
Must say, it was a dump the few times I ventured outside WDW.

This is by no means to be taken as fact, but I was not impressed from what I saw.

There are certainly some parts that have earned that moniker, and there are some that work hard to keep it. There are, however, some areas that are great with great people. I would say it is like any area in that regard.
 

thomas998

Well-Known Member
I think the biggest question is how much time have you actually spent in Florida? Are you a couple the has only visited Disney for a week each year? I ask because I've lived in Florida and living there is different than vacationing there. You might want to consider trying to go there for an extended stay and not do any Disney stuff so you get more of a feel for what it is like, assuming your normal stays include Disney. Disney can take the edges off a lot of the reality that is Florida. Also look at the cost of living and do a little planning/budgeting to get an idea of what the real costs of living are in Florida. Something you will have not experienced will be the cost of insurance for Hurricanes... property taxes may also be completely different from where you live, as I'm not sure where you live and how much or little the taxes are.

For your own sake, look before you leap.
 

Bullseye1967

Is that who I am?
Premium Member
I think the biggest question is how much time have you actually spent in Florida? Are you a couple the has only visited Disney for a week each year? I ask because I've lived in Florida and living there is different than vacationing there. You might want to consider trying to go there for an extended stay and not do any Disney stuff so you get more of a feel for what it is like, assuming your normal stays include Disney. Disney can take the edges off a lot of the reality that is Florida. Also look at the cost of living and do a little planning/budgeting to get an idea of what the real costs of living are in Florida. Something you will have not experienced will be the cost of insurance for Hurricanes... property taxes may also be completely different from where you live, as I'm not sure where you live and how much or little the taxes are.

For your own sake, look before you leap.

Your points have some validity, but did you notice the OP said they would be renting. The cost of living in the Orlando area is right on par with the national average. No worries about property taxes, and pretty sure not many renters get hurricane insurance.
 

MDB407

Member
Let me give my experience as someone who has lived in Central Florida for almost 18 years now. I live in the "Disney Bubble", I'm right across I4 from WDW and across 192 from Celebration.I own a small condo and can see the Hollywood Studios fireworks from my living room everynight.....so I couldn't get much closer to WDW :) The only thing I can compare living here to is where I grew up...Southern California, I moved here when I was 23. Cost of living is no comparison, while it has gotten more expensive to live here it is nothing compared to L.A. From low property taxes, no state income tax, low car registration fees and low sales tax compared to CA. My parents moved here from CA as well after they retired and love it. Property taxes alone have saved them a ton compared to L.A.-lets just say what they paid in CA in one year would pay their property taxes here for 5 years. Traffic can be bad here at times but again nothing compared to the insanity of Los Angeles traffic. And after 18 years here I know when traffic will be the worst and I avoid those times or take alternate routes. You can get anywhere without tolls but it helps to have a sunpass just in case. I can say crime wise I haven't really ever seen or dealt with any personally. I go out for nightly walks and have never had an issue and when I do I see lots of people who say hello and smile and are very friendly. I think of all the places I have travelled in the world the Orlando area is among the friendliest and most hospitable areas I have seen. Aside from WDW you have Universal, Sea World, Legoland, NASA, the beaches, Bok Tower, Leu Gardens and ever increasing Art/Theatre scene with the Dr Phillips Center, museums in Orlando and Tampa. You are never at a lack of things to do or places to visit. If you are looking for good places to live that are close or within 45 minutes of WDW....Winter Garden, Lakeland, Davenport, Clermont, Hunter's Creek and Celebration are all great choices. ALl I can say to all the negative posts about Orlando is that the posters experiences are definitely not what I have experienced living here for 18 years and would definitely give Orlando a try. I think anywhere you live is what you make of it.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
If moving to FL, stay far away from Orlando. We lived there for a year and clawed our way back to TX as quickly as we could. Terrific place to vacation, rotten place to live.

meh depends I mean orlando geographically is massive. think about it there are orlando addresses past 417.... I am not a city fan so I personally wouldn't live in Orlando but I work all over it and it's really not that bad.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
I personally would rather fly there whenever than actually move to Orlando. Must say, it was a dump the few times I ventured outside WDW.

This is by no means to be taken as fact, but I was not impressed from what I saw.

there are some rough sections right outside WDW but I have never felt unsafe. I live in Deltona and according to the community pages I live in a war zone but I don't see any of that. there's negative stuff almost anywhere. I have had to work in pine hills or on sketchy parts of OBT at 3am before.
 

yensid67

Well-Known Member
with your budget requirements, I have no idea. Celebration was my first thought but you eliminated that one. What is your rent budget and size of the unit.
My initial thought as well...but then Golden Oak came to mind too. Depending on if money is not an object! Golden Oak would be perfect You could live, eat and sleep Disney 24/7/365!!!!!!!!!
 

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