News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

[Bocabear]

I remember the Wilderness Junction plan...that was really lovely and a great idea.
We imported Lights Motors Action from Paris, why not the Wild West Show at Wilderness Junction... a new restaurant, Micro Brewery (Country Bear branded beer and Wilderness Ale) and a few cute shops. It would give that side of the pond a nice lure and a little evening entertainment all in a spot away from the two resorts... but close enough to be relevant.

 

[Andrew C]

The old Wilderness train was an unexpected and wonderful detail...Such a shame they could not bring it back to link the two resorts and add a little more... That was old Disney... Classic, unexpected and lovely details to make every spot, even the campground a little more special...

It only ran for a few years and was an operational pain in the rear. Track issues all the time. Also, it was an upcharge during most of its short lifespan. You know how much we love those...

 

[Beacon Joe]

It only ran for a few years and was an operational pain in the rear. Track issues all the time.

Didn't the company employ imagineers to develop and construct the track for that, and none of them having railway experience, they just had to figure it out as they went along? Or is that an urban myth?

 

[Andrew C]

Didn't the company employ imagineers to develop and construct the track for that, and none of them having railway experience, they just had to figure it out as they went along? Or is that an urban myth?

I don't know the full details but from what I understand, the track was not put down properly on the clay soil....or the soil as it was just couldn't handle it.

 

[Chupaca Bruh]

If they got rid of Ft. Wilderness there is plenty of room for a 5th park / boutique park and many hotels and dvc.

 

[JoeCamel]

If they got rid of Ft. Wilderness there is plenty of room for a 5th park / boutique park and many hotels and dvc.

Why would they want a 5th park when they can't handle what they have?

 

[danlb_2000]

Why would they want a 5th park when they can't handle what they have?

Can I get this on a t-shirt?

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

So now I'm thinking, I wonder what the profit margin % of The Fort is compared to the other resorts.

 

[JoeCamel]

So now I'm thinking, I wonder what the profit margin % of The Fort is compared to the other resorts.

$100 a night for a plot of ground with no hookups? I would open a thousand site place on reflections if I were them and only cared about the money

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

$100 a night for a plot of ground with no hookups? I would open a thousand site place on reflections if I were them and only cared about the money

Tent site for $100. There is of course power and lots of grounds to upkeep, etc. But still, it has to be high right?

 

[Bocabear]

A new resort and the Wilderness Junction addition would be great... Properly lay tracks for a train to link the three resorts over there with a couple restaurants and shops...Get rid of the whole "reflections" concept and do the resort between the two, theme it to Wilderness Junction. The train station and boat launch would make it fun and an interestingly connected place to stay...
there is also much they can do with the theme... if they want to...

 

[lentesta]

@danlb_2000 - just to be clear: Have all the permits expired for Reflections? I'm guessing yes.

 

[danlb_2000]

@danlb_2000 - just to be clear: Have all the permits expired for Reflections? I'm guessing yes.

The main permits expire at the end of this month.

 

[lentesta]

The main permits expire at the end of this month.

Perfect. Thank you!

 

[lentesta]

@danlb_2000 I'm hearing this might not be dead. Just FYI.

 

[Tha Realest]

@danlb_2000 I'm hearing this might not be dead. Just FYI.

This is the most meta post ever, as it could refer to both this project resurrecting from the grave and this thread. And two days after Easter, no less!

 

[Disone]

It only ran for a few years and was an operational pain in the rear. Track issues all the time. Also, it was an upcharge during most of its short lifespan. You know how much we love those...

Yup. Mistakes were made. Rather surprising mistakes considering the company's extensive history operating steam locomotive railroad lines. The tracks were not built to the proper standard (yet DL RR and WDWRR were) and hence many derailments happened. Also the steam locomotives had tenders that did not carry enough water (another issue both DL and WDW RRs do not have)

Such is the strange little blip on the radar history of the fort wilderness railroad.

 

[JoeCamel]

@danlb_2000 I'm hearing this might not be dead. Just FYI.

Med resort on SSL still breathing

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Sure seems like another DVC project when they are having such difficulty moving points right now would be nuts. I assume this is on a very long timescale?

 

[jpeden]

Med resort on SSL still breathing

It would be better than this garbage.