News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

GCTales

GCTales

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GladToBeHear said:
My guess is the project is on hold for now -- but will be part of a bigger redevelopment project in the future. They're not going to keep Fort Wilderness in its current location long-term. That land is too valuable. That'll get redeveloped into more residential (with the added value of watercraft access to MK). The lakeside lodge will either be part of that (or the land will become part of the larger residential project). And the campground will either be relocated to somewhere else on property -- or done away with completely.

This is all just a hunch.

EDIT: Or it all becomes DVC.
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Sa#ly, and scarily, with current Disney management this is far too believable a scenario.
 
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GimpYancIent

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It became a social media embarrassment having the skeletal remains of River Country Water Park at that location. It was reasonable to repurpose the area into some sort of resort. A clean up an eye sore and evolve the area into something profitable. World impacting events preempted the whole thing. It's OK for the area to be reclaimed by nature and the iconic Fort Wilderness left alone to be enjoyed as is.
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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GimpYancIent said:
It became a social media embarrassment having the skeletal remains of River Country Water Park at that location. It was reasonable to repurpose the area into some sort of resort. A clean up an eye sore and evolve the area into something profitable. World impacting events preempted the whole thing. It's OK for the area to be reclaimed by nature and the iconic Fort Wilderness left alone to be enjoyed as is.
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It must not have been much of a SM thing noticing how long they let it sit. Convenient it cleaned up the site but I doubt that was much of a motivating factor.
 
castlecake2.0

castlecake2.0

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I’m really curious how Disney feels about the campground. It’s booked solid half the year and doesn’t require traditional maintenance and upkeep that a traditional resort would. Wonder if there’s any long term plans other than business as usual.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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castlecake2.0 said:
I’m really curious how Disney feels about the campground. It’s booked solid half the year and doesn’t require traditional maintenance and upkeep that a traditional resort would. Wonder if there’s any long term plans other than business as usual.
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I doubt they have any plans to do anything different there other than regularly raising prices. I'd imagine it turns a very nice profit.
 
Phicinfan

Phicinfan

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You all are missing the big thing coming. I am no insider, but will take full credit when this happens.....

First this WILL be the DVC for Camp Wilderness.
It will include a 3 level parking garage, one level will be for golf carts
It will include a main building that will resemble Great western Ranch - to tie into the ranch near by.... - with golf carts disguised as donkey's and ponies to take you to the ranch and other Camp Wilderness sites.
There will be a huge water park play ground added that includes a rope swing into a pool, a slide looking much like a Water silo, that you shoot out the main spout on. Key difference is they will return the Camp Wilderness Railroad, which will have a station(and of course all the shops) that will route you around the entire camp ground, and will eventually also tie you into Wilderness Lodge. Toot Toot.
I will add, this will now be one of the most popular places to stay, you can Camp, you can cabin, you can ranch house, and soon they will add a separate barn building that will house suites where you can actually pet animals as you go to your overly priced DVC rooms.

You are welcome.
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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Phicinfan said:
You all are missing the big thing coming. I am no insider, but will take full credit when this happens.....

First this WILL be the DVC for Camp Wilderness.
It will include a 3 level parking garage, one level will be for golf carts
It will include a main building that will resemble Great western Ranch - to tie into the ranch near by.... - with golf carts disguised as donkey's and ponies to take you to the ranch and other Camp Wilderness sites.
There will be a huge water park play ground added that includes a rope swing into a pool, a slide looking much like a Water silo, that you shoot out the main spout on. Key difference is they will return the Camp Wilderness Railroad, which will have a station(and of course all the shops) that will route you around the entire camp ground, and will eventually also tie you into Wilderness Lodge. Toot Toot.
I will add, this will now be one of the most popular places to stay, you can Camp, you can cabin, you can ranch house, and soon they will add a separate barn building that will house suites where you can actually pet animals as you go to your overly priced DVC rooms.

You are welcome.
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So how many years/decades will the area be closed to perform this transformation?
castlecake2.0 said:
That’s what I think too, a lot of people seem to think it will be bulldozed for something else but until they run out of room for new resorts I don’t see this going anywhere.
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If you see them expand to the cleared area you have the answer
 
aladdin2007

aladdin2007

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Bocabear said:
The old Wilderness train was an unexpected and wonderful detail...Such a shame they could not bring it back to link the two resorts and add a little more... That was old Disney... Classic, unexpected and lovely details to make every spot, even the campground a little more special...
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The original plan at one time was to link the campground to wilderness junction to wilderness lodge with a train.
would have been so nice.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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I remember the Wilderness Junction plan...that was really lovely and a great idea.
We imported Lights Motors Action from Paris, why not the Wild West Show at Wilderness Junction... a new restaurant, Micro Brewery (Country Bear branded beer and Wilderness Ale) and a few cute shops. It would give that side of the pond a nice lure and a little evening entertainment all in a spot away from the two resorts... but close enough to be relevant.
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Bocabear said:
The old Wilderness train was an unexpected and wonderful detail...Such a shame they could not bring it back to link the two resorts and add a little more... That was old Disney... Classic, unexpected and lovely details to make every spot, even the campground a little more special...
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It only ran for a few years and was an operational pain in the rear. Track issues all the time. Also, it was an upcharge during most of its short lifespan. You know how much we love those... :hilarious:
 
Beacon Joe

Beacon Joe

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Andrew C said:
It only ran for a few years and was an operational pain in the rear. Track issues all the time.
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Didn't the company employ imagineers to develop and construct the track for that, and none of them having railway experience, they just had to figure it out as they went along? Or is that an urban myth?
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Beacon Joe said:
Didn't the company employ imagineers to develop and construct the track for that, and none of them having railway experience, they just had to figure it out as they went along? Or is that an urban myth?
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I don't know the full details but from what I understand, the track was not put down properly on the clay soil....or the soil as it was just couldn't handle it.
 

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