News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

[Rteetz]

They've pretty much retired from building non-DVC's

I'm still shocked at Coronado...and wouldn't be shocked at all if it turns out those can be "redeclared" without spending a dime

It is for the convention clients though so I wouldn't expect them to be all regular type rooms.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It is for the convention clients though so I wouldn't expect them to be all regular type rooms.

Of course not...but here's a theory: in the longterm, won't they eliminate Kitchen facilities from dvc? I bet they regret that anyway...perfectly good overpriced food revenue left on the table.

 

[Rteetz]

Of course not...but here's a theory: in the longterm, won't they eliminate Kitchen facilities from dvc? I bet they regret that anyway...perfectly good overpriced food revenue left on the table.

Very possible. I would think they at least keep a kitchenette type (microwave, fridge, coffee, sink). I have stayed in DVC rooms on several occasions now and never used things like the dish washer or oven.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Very possible. I would think they at least keep a kitchenette type (microwave, fridge, coffee, sink). I have stayed in DVC rooms on several occasions now and never used things like the dish washer or oven.

I bet the usage of the kitchens have declined on the whole consistently since 1994.

I do recall taking poll a few years ago where they tiptoed around the need for them as well.

 

[NiarrNDisney]

Is it just me, or does anyone else try to dissect every post by @marni1971??

For this post I'm thinking: "Is he saying that there is a plan to build a resort at this location and he's wondering if it's been made official yet?" or "Does he have so much more information to share on this project, but can't yet because it hasn't officially been confirmed?"

It's been said many time before, but once again, thank you @marni1971 for providing us with the information that you can.

Totally I found myself doing it the other day when I read a comment he post in a WoL thread and thought he was alluding to a Dr. Strange attraction. I think since he reveled some of his cryptic messages coming up on last years D23 announcements we all now read everything he post with a fine tooth comb hoping we find a bit of info.

 

[nickys]

Of course not...but here's a theory: in the longterm, won't they eliminate Kitchen facilities from dvc? I bet they regret that anyway...perfectly good overpriced food revenue left on the table.

Very possible. I would think they at least keep a kitchenette type (microwave, fridge, coffee, sink). I have stayed in DVC rooms on several occasions now and never used things like the dish washer or oven.

I think that would be hard to do.

For new DVC resorts I suppose they could go the Poly route and just have studios, but there's no way they'll get rid of them in the larger villas of existing resorts.

 

[Minthorne]

Of course not...but here's a theory: in the longterm, won't they eliminate Kitchen facilities from dvc? I bet they regret that anyway...perfectly good overpriced food revenue left on the table.

I think the some of the accommodations in DVC units are contractual. Removing the kitchens may not be allowed.

 

[nickys]

I think the some of the accommodations in DVC units are contractual. Removing the kitchens may not be allowed.

You may be right. I think when you buy in, your deeds spell out what units there are in your home resort. Remodelling existing units is probably not an option.

 

[WDWdream97]

So will the new resort fully connect Wilderness Lodge to Fort Wilderness? A Wilderness Junction if you will?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think the some of the accommodations in DVC units are contractual. Removing the kitchens may not be allowed.

You may be right. I think when you buy in, your deeds spell out what units there are in your home resort. Remodelling existing units is probably not an option.

True...but the first wave expires in 2042...and they ALWAYS seem to get around contractual stuff. I don't know if kitchens are specifically highlighted...more the size of the units.

 

[montyz81]

So will the new resort fully connect Wilderness Lodge to Fort Wilderness? A Wilderness Junction if you will?

Why can't they just use a small narrow gauge train to connect the two resorts?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Why can't they just use a small narrow gauge train to connect the two resorts?

Same reason as always: it costs money and generates none.

 

[matt9112]

I hope for both like the Boardwalk. One side DVC and the other hotel.

meh if you DVC fine but the rack rates at deluxe resorts is absurd.

 

[Coaster Lover]

Why can't they just use a small narrow gauge train to connect the two resorts?

I was thinking the same thing! Bring back the Ft. Wilderness Railroad to connect the three properties... would be amazing...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

meh if you DVC fine but the rack rates at deluxe resorts is absurd.

So is the buy in price for dvc...and it's gonna get worse

 

[matt9112]

I was thinking the same thing! Bring back the Ft. Wilderness Railroad to connect the three properties... would be amazing...

amazing but you will still go now yes? and pay what they want now yes? you now have your answer.

 

[matt9112]

So is the buy in price for dvc...and it's gonna get worse

I could swing resale buy in if I really wanted and for a moment thought I really wanted it but it's just so much money. rather have universal on the docket too and forget DVC.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I could swing resale buy in if I really wanted and for a moment thought I really wanted it but it's just so much money. rather have universal on the docket too and forget DVC.

Dvc has gone up buy 125% since I bought it...just Like everything else there...
It completely changes everything. The point was a commitment that went both ways - seller and customer. Raising the price at that clip means only the customer is committing to anything.

 

[Captain Barbossa]

Same reason as always: it costs money and generates none.

Ok then. Same could be said about the buses, boats, and the monorail.

 

[Horizons78]

A likely greenlit resort, DVC or not, at the expense of the atmosphere of Fort Wilderness?