Disney is a struggling company. I don’t see an end in sight.

[MisterPenguin]

Soul was a pretty bad movie.

Of course, in your opinion.

But you're basing your evaluation of the health of Disney and Pixar based on your opinion as if it were an established fact and not just mere personal opinion.

Soul's Tomatometer is 95%. Its critics rating is 83%. Its audience rating is 81%. Those are all very very good scores.

Your opinion of Soul is yours. And you are, of course, welcome to hold that opinion and to express it. But trying to paint it as part of a larger failure of Disney, and that is why the public is turning away from Disney, is contrafactual since it seems the majority of people think highly of Soul.

Soul has demonstrably improved people's perception of Pixar and Disney.

 

[DisneyFanatic12]

Of course, in your opinion.

But you're basing your evaluation of the health of Disney and Pixar based on your opinion as if it were an established fact and not just mere personal opinion.

Soul's Tomatometer is 95%. Its critics rating is 83%. Its audience rating is 81%. Those are all very very good scores.

Your opinion of Soul is yours. And you are, of course, welcome to hold that opinion and to express it. But trying to paint it as part of a larger failure of Disney, and that is why the public is turning away from Disney, is contrafactual since it seems the majority of people think highly of Soul.

Soul has demonstrably improved people's perception of Pixar and Disney.

That is true, and my opinion on Soul is just that, an opinion. But I do think that we absorb a lot of content in our everyday lives, and good content at that. To want to see a movie, it needs to be better quality than what I can see online any day of the week. Soul would be a great movie from any other studio, but I hold Pixar to a higher level. Sure, Toy Story has not great animation now, but at the time was borderline revolutionary. Movies need to be comparatively better than the content we absorb 24/7, and to me Soul was not proportionally that much better than content I see each day.

 

[jpinkc]

It won’t ever get better. Covid ushered in a new era with everyone building up their home entertainment and getting used to streaming services that shell out high quality content. The 300 million dollar movie will be rare, as rare as rom-com is now in theaters.
Kids have no interest seeing movies at cinema.
Actors, writers strike won’t help.
CEOs and top actors make too much money, they both need to shave off 25% to help the struggling actors and entry level production suits.

I am over 50 too and love going to the movies. My kids are 17 and 20 and enjoy it. But I do agree alot of their friends are not unless its something BIG, Avengers was the last thing they all went to see with friends. They didnt have interest in Flash, we did go see Guardians with kids. Before that was last Spiderman. No desire from either to see Marvels, some interest in Mission Impossible. Word of mouth kinda killed Indy for them and they both love Indy. But I do agree what some of the Actors and Executives pay just sounds insane but I have thought that for a while. But lets face it they wont be getting pay cuts, and struggling people wont get a noticeable increase either.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

It won’t ever get better. Covid ushered in a new era with everyone building up their home entertainment and getting used to streaming services that shell out high quality content.

I think it could still recover, it’s going to require Hollywood to find several big blockbuster series like Avengers, or Harry Potter, or Pirates of the Caribbean though, they aren’t going to do it on remakes and reboots. A well reviewed high quality Star Wars film certainly wouldn’t hurt either.

Unfortunately they’ve either diminished, or ended, the golden gooses on most the major franchises now, I don’t know how they undo that.

 

[celluloid]

Yeah, Disney really have milked Marvel, Star Wars and now they did not get a great response from getting interest for Indy with his finale to be a start of something new to spin off of.

Their animation needs to get going well again.

For example
Universal, even with its struggles has Illumination originals, Illumination's Mario sequel(s) and spin offs. Blumhouse mid budget horror and Dreamworks all providing profits for them.

 

[Lilofan]

I think it could still recover, it’s going to require Hollywood to find several big blockbuster series like Avengers, or Harry Potter, or Pirates of the Caribbean though, they aren’t going to do it on remakes and reboots. A well reviewed high quality Star Wars film certainly wouldn’t hurt either.

Unfortunately they’ve either diminished, or ended, the golden gooses on most the major franchises now, I don’t know how they undo that.

Harrison Ford is still acting , earned $25M salary for Indy 5, Mark Hamill can earn more other than autograph signings if in another SW movie.

 

[SirLink]

Yeah, Disney really have milked Marvel, Star Wars and now they did not get a great response from getting interest for Indy with his finale to be a start of something new to spin off of.

Their animation needs to get going well again.

For example
Universal, even with its struggles has Illumination originals, Illumination's Mario sequel(s) and spin offs. Blumhouse mid budget horror and Dreamworks all providing profits for them.

The difference between Illumination and Pixar is outside of Mario all their production costs have all been less than $100 million whilst over the last 16 years Pixar production costs have been higher much higher than $100 million. And recently Dreamworks have been cutting costs since the pandemic started on their production costs to less than $100 million per project.

But a friendly reminder when you see box office numbers thats not what the studios get.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ratings scores mean NOTHING if people don’t go and pay real money to see these things.

The corps will become even more risk averse and start rehashing even more old crap to not lose a penny. And the worm has turned on that formula.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Harrison Ford is still acting , earned $25M salary for Indy 5, Mark Hamill can earn more other than autograph signings if in another SW movie.

Disney murdered their iconic characters…

Like not out back in the alley…
On the sidewalk in front while the macys thanksgiving parade was going by…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yeah, Disney really have milked Marvel, Star Wars and now they did not get a great response from getting interest for Indy with his finale to be a start of something new to spin off of.

Their animation needs to get going well again.

For example
Universal, even with its struggles has Illumination originals, Illumination's Mario sequel(s) and spin offs. Blumhouse mid budget horror and Dreamworks all providing profits for them.

I think 80% of relatively conscious adults could have nailed that prediction…

…and yet…they did it anyway. Management has pictures of Iger with a goat

 

[CinematicFusion]

I think it could still recover, it’s going to require Hollywood to find several big blockbuster series like Avengers, or Harry Potter, or Pirates of the Caribbean though, they aren’t going to do it on remakes and reboots. A well reviewed high quality Star Wars film certainly wouldn’t hurt either.

Unfortunately they’ve either diminished, or ended, the golden gooses on most the major franchises now, I don’t know how they undo that.

Does this mean Disney will eventually sell to Apple? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/news...from-building-an-empire-to-a-disney-yard-sale

Bob Iger Shifts From Building an Empire to a Disney Yard Sale​

 

[CinematicFusion]

I think 80% of relatively conscious adults could have nailed that prediction…

…and yet…they did it anyway. Management has pictures of Iger with a goat

Indy 5's poor box office haul a disaster for Disney CEO Bob Iger

Dial of Destiny could end up with just half the receipts its panned predecessor earned 15 years ago and rival John Carter as Disney's biggest bomb.

fortune.com

Disney’s Indiana Jones 5 took in $300 million at the box office so far—a disaster for CEO Bob Iger and Lucasfilm​

 

[CinematicFusion]

Ratings scores mean NOTHING if people don’t go and pay real money to see these things.

The corps will become even more risk averse and start rehashing even more old crap to not lose a penny. And the worm has turned on that formula.

Disney Might Be Sold to Apple, Sources Claim; What Could That Even Mean?

You heard us right: Disney CEO Bob Iger is reportedly looking to sell the company to Apple. Here's what this merger would mean for the industry.

startefacts.com

Disney Might Be Sold to Apple, Sources Claim; What Could That Even Mean?​

 

[CinematicFusion]

I think it could still recover, it’s going to require Hollywood to find several big blockbuster series like Avengers, or Harry Potter, or Pirates of the Caribbean though, they aren’t going to do it on remakes and reboots. A well reviewed high quality Star Wars film certainly wouldn’t hurt either.

Unfortunately they’ve either diminished, or ended, the golden gooses on most the major franchises now, I don’t know how they undo that.

 

[MisterPenguin]

So, Iger is selling off parts of Disney AND letting Apple buy Disney??

 

[jpinkc]

The Idea of Disney not "Being Disney" anymore, is somewhat more terrifying than what we are dealing with now. Disney needs a complete enema of the executives. They need to look back for a while, and then try and come forward. If that makes any sense.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The Idea of Disney not "Being Disney" anymore, is somewhat more terrifying than what we are dealing with now. Disney needs a complete enema of the executives. They need to look back for a while, and then try and come forward. If that makes any sense.

Sorry, but Disney ran out of fairy tale princesses to appropriate.

 

[jpinkc]

Sorry, but Disney ran out of fairy tale princesses to appropriate.

I would laugh at that but it sounds so true....................

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Sorry, but Disney ran out of fairy tale princesses to appropriate.

They also ran out of any semi-competent managers that can spot their brand and their clientele in a police lineup…

 

[CinematicFusion]

So, Iger is selling off parts of Disney AND letting Apple buy Disney??