Disney introduces Electric Standing Vehicles for guests with disabilities

[janoimagine]

But that is not the resposibility of Disney. They have no power (or interest) in preventing people from defrauding the system, and as much as we might like to think of Disney as a force for all things good, they don't care what stereotype is associated with the people who are paying money to rent these from them is.
Now, there does need to be reform here, espeically based on the recent reports on the fraud going on as it affects the federal government, but this is not Disney's hill to die on.

Agreed, like I stated, I was initially unaware that it conflicted with the ADA.

 

[janoimagine]

The ADA is a law...it has no stance. The Department of Justice enforces the ADA.

Copy that, thanks for the explanation.

 

[DisneyWall-E]

According to ADA Section 35.137, subsection C - Mobility Devices
(1) Inquiry about disability. A public entity shall not ask an individual using a wheelchair or other power-driven mobility device questions about the nature and extent of the individual's disability.

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV nor the Internet, but this sounds pretty clear. I would be curious of your interpretation.

But, you did at least spend the night at a Holiday Inn express last night, right?

 

[Weather_Lady]

I do not think Disney would want to battle to change the ADA! They are in enough trouble in FLorida right now over Wage and Hour issues. Plus being accused not paying there employees a living wage.

The Americans with Disabilities Act generally guarantees access for disabled persons to public places and freedom from discrimination in their jobs. It requires, for example, that persons in wheelchairs and walkers be able to access most places of public accommodation, including theme parks, just like everyone else, and not be badgered or asked embarrassing questions about the nature of their disability.

It does NOT require private businesses to provide, or make available for rent, any motorized transportation or medical equipment to guests who do not already own their own assistive devices. While I totally support the ADA and its promise of accessibility and accommodation to those who need it, why Disney is taking the affirmative step of introducing faster and more dangerous assistive devices to its parks -- when they know they must rent them on demand to anyone who asks -- is beyond me.

 

[wdwstateofmind]

So now we're gonna have people on segways cutting line due to their "disabilities" and they expect me to just shut my mouth? If you can ride a "segway-like" vehicle you can stand in line too...

 

[MichWolv]

The Americans with Disabilities ACT guarantees ACCESS for disabled persons to public places and freedom from discrimination in their jobs. It requires, for example, that persons in wheelchairs and walkers be able to access places of public accommodation, including theme parks, just like everyone else, and not be badgered or asked embarrassing questions about the nature of their disability.

It does NOT require private businesses to provide, or make available for rent, any motorized transportation or medical equipment to guests who do not already own their own assistive devices. While I totally support the ADA and its promise of accessibility and accommodation to those who need it, why Disney is taking the affirmative step of introducing faster and more dangerous assistive devices to its parks -- when they know they must rent them on demand to anyone who asks -- is beyond me.

The problem is really that while the ADA doesn't require Disney to provide these things, it does, pretty much, require Disney to let people with their own things use them in the parks. By offering something like this, Disney likely reduces the number of people who bring their own mobility device, which may be overpowered or not well-maintained.

 

[MichWolv]

So now we're gonna have people on segways cutting line due to their "disabilities" and they expect me to just shut my mouth? If you can ride a "segway-like" vehicle you can stand in line too...

Sadly, that just isn't true for everybody.

 

[UofMGuy423]

According to ADA Section 35.137, subsection C - Mobility Devices
(1) Inquiry about disability. A public entity shall not ask an individual using a wheelchair or other power-driven mobility device questions about the nature and extent of the individual's disability.

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV nor the Internet, but this sounds pretty clear. I would be curious of your interpretation.

I'm a lawyer and it depends on the definition of a "public entity". It should be defined somewhere else in the ADA.

 

[ctxak98]

I am Not gonna lie, I am only 20 but the last time I went down I had to rent an ECV due to an injury I got from Irish dance (I am an Irish Dancer)....Does this count as an excuse to use one!? No one would push me in my family so I was kind of forced to! I felt ashamed ALL DAY in the MK! Everyone kept giving me the glare!

 

[Texas84]

This might be good for my Dad. He had a stroke and ended up with a bad leg. He can walk but not all day. Park it at attractions and get in line.

 

[bob0012]

I wasn't aware of that ... that definately has to change.

I understand the abuse angle, but the even if they could ask they aren't trained to decided which illness deserves one and which doesn't.

Yeah. That's not even remotely true.

If you ignore the fact that it is in fact true, then sure. As already mentioned it's a privacy/HIPPA matter as well as an ADA issue.

I do think it is odd that these are stand up vehicles. This sounds more like a tool for the lazy not those with true disabilities.

There are people who have trouble walking, but medicaly standing is best for them (sitting for long periods of time aggrvates the issue)

One could argue that Disney is a private entity.

They are not a private entity as they are open to the public.

The Americans with Disabilities ACT guarantees ACCESS for disabled persons to public places and freedom from discrimination in their jobs. It requires, for example, that persons in wheelchairs and walkers be able to access places of public accommodation, including theme parks, just like everyone else, and not be badgered or asked embarrassing questions about the nature of their disability.

It does NOT require private businesses to provide, or make available for rent, any motorized transportation or medical equipment to guests who do not already own their own assistive devices. While I totally support the ADA and its promise of accessibility and accommodation to those who need it, why Disney is taking the affirmative step of introducing faster and more dangerous assistive devices to its parks -- when they know they must rent them on demand to anyone who asks -- is beyond me.

ADA actually does not guarantee access. It requires establishments to make reasonable accomodations for access. It's why water slides for example aren't accessable. It's not reasonable (aka cost prohibitive) to build an expensive elevator at each one .

And Disney is taking the step of offering these because they were told in court it was reasonable to accomodate guests who own segways and use them for medical reasons. That being said they are uncomfortable with them because when the battery dies they tip over, and disney doesn't want that on their hands, so they offer a 4 wheeled alternative, which is also reasonable. Without these they would have to allow the segways in.

 

[sshindel]

Why on earth you would go to a theme park with back problems is a whole other question???

I bet if you took a poll of people on this site if they came down with a back injury, either temporary or permanant, would they still want to visit the parks, the response would be an overwhelming "YES".

 

[JIMINYCR]

Won't be long Disney will upgrade to these high end models.

 

[sshindel]

Won't be long Disney will upgrade to these high end models.

I see you've stumbled onto the plans for NextNextGen! Why build new rides when you can just shove a screen in front of everyone's face and feed them cupcake in a cup?

 

[ctxak98]

That will learn you to be weak and feeble. LOL.

People blow out their knees, ankles etc. the problem is WDW is filled with lame people on scooters who really have nothing wrong with them. I assume you are in decent shape at 20 and a dancer so I would assume you had an injury if you were scootering past me.

Ok good. I was miserable walking on it the other 4 days that by the time I got to MK I had enough pain and misery!

 

[Vader2112]

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The Americans with Disabilities ACT guarantees ACCESS for disabled persons to public places and freedom from discrimination in their jobs. It requires, for example, that persons in wheelchairs and walkers be able to access places of public accommodation, including theme parks, just like everyone else, and not be badgered or asked embarrassing questions about the nature of their disability.

It does NOT require private businesses to provide, or make available for rent, any motorized transportation or medical equipment to guests who do not already own their own assistive devices. While I totally support the ADA and its promise of accessibility and accommodation to those who need it, why Disney is taking the affirmative step of introducing faster and more dangerous assistive devices to its parks -- when they know they must rent them on demand to anyone who asks -- is beyond me.

ease see my other posts I am very well versed in te ADA. Not the point I was nak

The Americans with Disabilities ACT guarantees ACCESS for disabled persons to public places and freedom from discrimination in their jobs. It requires, for example, that persons in wheelchairs and walkers be able to access places of public accommodation, including theme parks, just like everyone else, and not be badgered or asked embarrassing questions about the nature of their disability.

It does NOT require private businesses to provide, or make available for rent, any motorized transportation or medical equipment to guests who do not already own their own assistive devices. While I totally support the ADA and its promise of accessibility and accommodation to those who need it, why Disney is taking the affirmative step of introducing faster and more dangerous assistive devices to its parks -- when they know they must rent them on demand to anyone who asks -- is beyond me.

not the point I was making I am we'll versed in the ADA. Someone suggested that the availability of these devices be challenged by Disney and how ADA is applicable in the parks. Disney I I. Trouble right now for several violations of other kinds and I do not think they want to rock any boats. To answer your question about why they would do this no questions asked is simple 100% profit on the rentals.

 

[JIMINYCR]

I see you've stumbled onto the plans for NextNextGen! Why build new rides when you can just shove a screen in front of everyone's face and feed them cupcake in a cup?

Got the secret plan schematics from the bus driver at bus stop # 12. Shhhh, not many others know about it.

 

[Mr.Skunkape]

I cant't wait to see one of these things wipe out as it goes off the sidewalk curb and crashes on main street.

 

[mousehockey37]

http://www.wdwmagic.com/resorts/wal...ing-vehicles-for-guests-with-disabilities.htm

Yay! Something new to get run over by!!!!

 

[sshindel]

Got the secret plan schematics from the bus driver at bus stop # 12. Shhhh, not many others know about it.

I hear it's part of the new 5th gate. In actuality, it'll just be a big pole building / warehouse with no themeing. You'll never notice though as you get in your little floaty chair and have personal screens and food shovled into you all day.