Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

mattpeto

mattpeto

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lentesta said:
I was also told there wasn't an IT budget for scenarios like refunds or "I bought for this park but now we're headed to that park." So expect manual interventions there. I could be wrong.
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Why would this be an issue? Nobody can pre-purchase Genie+?

Reservations are wide open for changes if needed.
 
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DisneyHead123

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Yikes. If true this is astoundingly out of touch. And I say that as someone who admires a lot about Disney and think people are much too hard on them with the armchair quarterbacking criticism. But this is just… wow. Read the room. Customers are already starting to stay home, and I’m convinced part of that has to do with word-of-mouth happening during post Covid trips (no ME, Genie, big price increases even as they suffered from labor and supply shortages.) I honestly didn’t hear a single positive review from anyone who went during that time span if they were a repeat visitor (the one exception was first time visitors). They are squeezing their golden goose to borderline chokehold levels to fund a streaming service with no clear path to ever making that profitable.
 
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dreday3

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DisneyHead123 said:
Yikes. If true this is astoundingly out of touch. And I say that as someone who admires a lot about Disney and think people are much too hard on them with the armchair quarterbacking criticism. But this is just… wow. Read the room. Customers are already starting to stay home, and I’m convinced part of that has to do with word-of-mouth happening during post Covid trips (no ME, Genie, big price increases even as they suffered from labor and supply shortages.) I honestly didn’t hear a single positive review from anyone who went during that time span if they were a repeat visitor (the one exception was first time visitors). They are squeezing their golden goose to borderline chokehold levels to fund a streaming service with no clear path to ever making that profitable.
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Yeah. I'm pretty shocked at this. I'm glad we have no trips planned.
 
SamusAranX

SamusAranX

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If this is true, yikes.

As others said: why? Are they really that dead set against expanding capacity to address the core of the problem? Who is upstairs with this boneheaded idea? They are playing musical chairs again with guests except there’s not as many chairs anymore
 
gerarar

gerarar

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So there’s basically going to be 5 Genie+ packages?

Package A - MK, HS, EC, AK
Package B - MK
Package C - HS
Package D - EC
Package E - AK

Package A is what we have currently, and will be priced just about the same as in the current Genie+ dynamic pricing model.

But now there’s options (Packages B-E) for guests who are just doing one park one day, which are plenty if not the majority of guests (especially at MK). These are going to be priced similar to A or lower, giving a “discount” to those one-park guests.

Idk if it’s more confusing imo, it’s just more options. Definitely more price points to keep track of though lol.

Now if I misunderstood and they’re getting rid of Package A in this scenario, then I’ll be throwing hands. I love park hopping and the ability to schedule rides for other parks while I’m in a different one.
 
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jpeden

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gerarar said:
So there’s basically going to be 5 Genie+ packages?

Package A - MK, HS, EC, AK
Package B - MK
Package C - HS
Package D - EC
Package E - AK

Package A is what we have currently, and will be priced just about the same as in the current Genie+ dynamic pricing model.

But now there’s options (Packages B-E) for guests who are just doing one park one day, which are plenty if not the majority of guests (especially at MK). These are going to be priced similar to A or lower, giving a “discount” to those one-park guests.

Idk if it’s more confusing imo, it’s just more options. Definitely more price points to keep track of though lol.

Now if I misunderstood and they’re getting rid of Package A in this scenario, then I’ll be throwing hands. I love park hopping and the ability to schedule rides for other parks while I’m in a different one.
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Yeah if option A is gone it may be enough for us to cancel our trip. That would be insane if so.
 
TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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I definitely can see why they would want this and also to me there is a lot more value to G+ for MK and DHS days and if you are hoping, so I am sure they see much lower sales of G+ for people that have reservations at Epcot and AK

But yeah, adding another element of complexity is probably not what most people are looking for
 
TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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jpeden said:
Yeah if option A is gone it may be enough for us to cancel our trip. That would be insane if so.
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Reading how Len wrote it, Option A will still be there and MK only would be same $ as Option A

Just would be cheaper if you are doing one of the other parks only (though probably means more that the MK or all parks option will be higher more often)
 
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DCBaker

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dreday3 said:
Will there still be dynamic pricing?
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Most likely. Here's what Disney says on the Walt Disney World website.

"Beginning June 27, Guests at Walt Disney World Resort will now purchase Disney Genie+ service based on how they want to visit. Guests will be able to select either a single-park option or a multiple-parks option, subject to availability. With this update, prices may now be lower at some Walt Disney World theme parks compared to others."
 
mattpeto

mattpeto

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jpeden said:
This is clearly designed to drive sales at parks (EPCOT and AK) where G+ isn’t selling and to try and get people out of MK.

I doubt it will do either.
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Well it's more than that actually.

They would sell out for Genie+ previously, where other parks could still handle it. This lets them control the levers a bit at each park separately.

Is it a win for guests? Probably a little bit overall, unless you plan on hopping daily.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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lentesta said:
I could be wrong on all of this.

The rumor is that we'll soon see per-park Genie+ pricing. So if you want to use G+ at two parks, it'll potentially be 2 separate purchases.

No word yet on prices.

I don't expect prices to drop, at least at MK and HS. For one thing, a price drop would essentially be a discount to guests who only visit one park per day. And there's already enough demand at the popular rides. A price drop would only make that worse.

I've heard (but not seen) that the MK price will be the same as "all four parks", which would encourage you to go somewhere else after the MK. That's another way of shifting demand.

I'd expect lower prices at AK and EP, in part to encourage people to go to those parks. Also, as we've shown with ETPE, there's really no need for G+ for resort guests using ETPE at AK. So this per-park strategy allows them to reprice the value proposition.

I still expect per-park prices to fluctuate every day.

I've not seen how IT will implement all of this. I'd expect that any sort of change/refund will require you to visit Guest Relations, since I doubt that will be built into MDE.

ETA: This is just for WDW, not DLR, which is not changing (I'm told).
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If they are going to do this, I hope they come up with a 1 park G+ price, a 2 park G+ price, a three park G+ price, and a 4 park G+ price, and the additional cost is less as you add like multi day park tickets are.

This would encourage purchasing of G+ for multiple parks and make more money for Disney.
 

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