Disney executives have come up with the answer to rock bottom Cast Member morale

Lilofan

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Maybe the problem is just that Florida is just too damn expensive to live in. That housing of any kind is inflated. My cousin/family lived in Florida for about 10 years for business. And he said you may not pay state taxes but they get you in other ways. I live in P&G country and because of that there are areas of very expensive old and newly built homes. What the market will bear.
One thing that has been occurring in the hurricane capital of the world is that FL residents home insurance has been going up and up also due to the claims of many when a hurricane wrecks their area. Also one scam of contractors is that they complimentary inspect your roof then tell you you qualify for a new roof due to roof damage due to weather that came through your area. The contractors and you agree to a claim , you pay your deductible / you submit the claim to the insurance company for approval. Once approved you get a new roof. Multiply this insurance scam many times and no one should be surprised the homeowners insurance rates go up.
 

JoeCamel

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One thing that has been occurring in the hurricane capital of the world is that FL residents home insurance has been going up and up also due to the claims of many when a hurricane wrecks their area. Also one scam of contractors is that they complimentary inspect your roof then tell you you qualify for a new roof due to roof damage due to weather that came through your area. The contractors and you agree to a claim , you pay your deductible / you submit the claim to the insurance company for approval. Once approved you get a new roof. Multiply this insurance scam many times and no one should be surprised the homeowners insurance rates go up.
I'm moving out of state because once again I can't buy insurance that covers much of anything. Last few years have been Lloyds' of London policies I'm done hunting for insurance in Florida and recent moves by the state will make it much more expensive for those who can find insurance. It's be nice to insurance companies year in this state
 

Lilofan

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I'm moving out of state because once again I can't buy insurance that covers much of anything. Last few years have been Lloyds' of London policies I'm done hunting for insurance in Florida and recent moves by the state will make it much more expensive for those who can find insurance. It's be nice to insurance companies year in this state
It is frustrating that some insurance companies cancel some homeowners policies to " limit exposure " for them - excuse some companies use . ( ie after hurricane pay outs and numerous scamming roofing claims to pay out as examples ) it is no shocker that some policies get cancelled . That is true once your homeowners policy gets cancelled through no fault of your own, it is an incredible quest to go find another company to insure your home.
 
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Tom P.

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Yes.... Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs but I don't think that you recall the rest of the premise/base of the pyramid. In order for increases in pay to no longer be a significant motivator, the pay level has to first cover all of the person's basic needs for food, shelter, being able to enjoy certain basic things in life and $15/hr simply doesn't do that, particularly from what I hear about the cost of living in the Orlando area.
I happen to think Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs is about 95% garbage as well, but that's another conversation. :) My point was that while I think employees may think some other things, like recognition and feeling a part of a team, are nice, the vast majority of an employee's motivation comes from their pay and whether or not they are paid well. Even when people love their jobs, they are first and foremost there for the money. So I agree with you about the importance of being paid well.
 

ImperfectPixie

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I happen to think Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs is about 95% garbage as well, but that's another conversation. :) My point was that while I think employees may think some other things, like recognition and feeling a part of a team, are nice, the vast majority of an employee's motivation comes from their pay and whether or not they are paid well. Even when people love their jobs, they are first and foremost there for the money. So I agree with you about the importance of being paid well.
I agree...however...having been in the situation where level of pay was not great but was at least acceptable...nothing is more demoralizing and depressing than feeling voiceless and babysat while on the job knowing full well you could do a better job under someone who didn't micromanage and literally go out of their way to make busy work so he could milk more hours out of salaried employees. (That last isn't an exaggeration. Once a month, he would go into the warehouse and pull everything off the shelves and make us all come in on a Saturday to fix it so that he felt like we were "worth" what he was paying us. Yeah, the guy was a total "insert word here that won't get past filters".)
 

Thelazer

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What gets me is how they insult CMs' intelligence - do they genuinely think their cast members are that stupid? "Cast Belief Statements". Good lord. How did they manage to keep a straight face when delivering this nonsense? It's almost as bad as all the horrible, jargon-filled mission statements that were the rage 20 years ago.

Trust me, a good 85% of the cast members ARE that stupid!!

They love Disney, they get Disney ink, they married there spouse that they met at Disney.
Disney is there world.. and don't you ever dare say a bad thing about the mouse. They are that brainwashed.
Hell, if they could work for free in exchange for Tickets only, they would.

The other 10%, put up with it.. but laugh like hell behind there backs.

The 5% left that want to climb the corporate ladder, just suck it up and play along.
 

lightningtap347

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Trust me, a good 85% of the cast members ARE that stupid!!

They love Disney, they get Disney ink, they married there spouse that they met at Disney.
Disney is there world.. and don't you ever dare say a bad thing about the mouse. They are that brainwashed.
Hell, if they could work for free in exchange for Tickets only, they would.

The other 10%, put up with it.. but laugh like hell behind there backs.

The 5% left that want to climb the corporate ladder, just suck it up and play along.
Their.

If you're going to question the intelligence of/ generalize thousands of people, at least use the correct form of the word please.
 

Tom P.

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Trust me, a good 85% of the cast members ARE that stupid!!

They love Disney, they get Disney ink, they married there spouse that they met at Disney.
Disney is there world.. and don't you ever dare say a bad thing about the mouse. They are that brainwashed.
Hell, if they could work for free in exchange for Tickets only, they would.

The other 10%, put up with it.. but laugh like hell behind there backs.

The 5% left that want to climb the corporate ladder, just suck it up and play along.
How utterly ridiculous and insulting.
 

hopemax

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In the management mindset, it is nothing new that " do more with less " and when that works keep finding more ways is status quo. Jobs in reality are being replaced with automation everywhere one looks which lowers labor costs and increases profits.
And that mindset is only good for the higher ups in the company. It needs to change. Yesterday.
Not always. Some jobs are, in the 21st century, so bad that labor should not have to do them at the price capital is willing to pay. In this country, nobody should be expected to take a physical job that does not pay a living wage, and sacrifice their health to perform it. That may have been the best we could do in all the previous centuries, but we have the resources to avoid it now. If labor and capital can't come to an agreement that is mutually beneficial, than automation is an appropriate solution.

At Disney, I am okay with some sort of germ zapper light system, and a robot vacuuming and making my bed. I would rather the housekeeper be working in something like medical scheduling / billing, and not need a knee or hip replacement when they're 60. But we were okay with the housekeeper being tired and physically broken so we didn't bother to figure out how to make germ zapping systems and a robot that would make the bed.

Hell, if they could work for free in exchange for Tickets only, they would.

I definitely wouldn't go that far, however... my Mom, the CM, passed away 6 years ago. Every time my Dad uses his Main Entrance pass, she gets "paid," income tax free, the equivalent of 1-4 one-day park hoppers. Add it up. You find another job that pays so well after you're dead.

However, she was one of a very few people she worked with who would regularly use the ticket benefit. Most people would never visit the park. Only if their grandkids or other family were in town. It was really only the current and ex-College Program or the snowbirds who came for Disney that would bother. She extracted extra "income" from Disney by using the pass, but she would have preferred better salary, better training, better working conditions and better acknowledgement of what she provided to Disney for knowing how to do her job well.
 
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Lilofan

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Not always. Some jobs are, in the 21st century, so bad that labor should not have to do them at the price capital is willing to pay. In this country, nobody should be expected to take a physical job that does not pay a living wage, and sacrifice their health to perform it. That may have been the best we could do in all the previous centuries, but we have the resources to avoid it now. If labor and capital can't come to an agreement that is mutually beneficial, than automation is an appropriate solution.

At Disney, I am okay with some sort of germ zapper light system, and a robot vacuuming and making my bed. I would rather the housekeeper be working in something like medical scheduling / billing, and not need a knee or hip replacement when they're 60. But we were okay with the housekeeper being tired and physically broken so we didn't bother to figure out how to make germ zapping systems and a robot that would make the bed.



I definitely wouldn't go that far, however... my Mom, the CM, passed away 6 years ago. Every time my Dad uses his Main Entrance pass, she gets "paid," income tax free, the equivalent of 1-4 one-day park hoppers. Add it up. You find another job that pays so well after you're dead.

However, she was one of a very few people she worked with who would regularly use the ticket benefit. Most people would never visit the park. Only if their grandkids or other family were in town. It was really only the current and ex-College Program or the snowbirds who came for Disney that would bother. She extracted extra "income" from Disney by using the pass, but she would have preferred better salary, better training, better working conditions and better acknowledgement of what she provided to Disney for knowing how to do her job well.
Your opinion of nobody should take a physical job that does not pay a living wage is not even close to being realistic.
 

My95cobras

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So you might be thinking that when faced with rock-bottom Cast Member morale due to worse-than-ever working conditions, executives at Disney would consider things like paying a living wage, a 5 day max work week, giving cast a chance of requested days-off being granted, or even a realistic chance of actually enjoying the parks as a guest with their entrance benefits.

Nope. Instead they have spent the last year on coming up with "Cast Belief Statements."

For the Magic Kingdom, the think-tank came up with "In this, The Most Magical Place on Earth, we are the magic. This is OUR moment!" and for EPCOT, "We belong to a worldwide family, united by our possibilities."

I'm sure this will have a profound impact on Cast Members and make them forget that they are overworked, undervalued and ready to be dropped as soon as the going gets rough.
They’re too busy pretending to be a company that is based on equality and social issues rather than actually make a difference to the people who make the money for them.

The parks are falling apart, there is no value for guests, it’s insanely overpriced, the employees are treated terribly and paid worse…. But the shareholders are making their money (back) which is all that bob cares about.

I have not been to a Disney park in years and have no plans to return.
 

Dead2009

Horror Movie Guru
Trust me, a good 85% of the cast members ARE that stupid!!

They love Disney, they get Disney ink, they married there spouse that they met at Disney.
Disney is there world.. and don't you ever dare say a bad thing about the mouse. They are that brainwashed.
Hell, if they could work for free in exchange for Tickets only, they would.

The other 10%, put up with it.. but laugh like hell behind there backs.

The 5% left that want to climb the corporate ladder, just suck it up and play along.

Or it's quite possible that some like to be loyal to the people they work for. Why would they agree with someone bashing their employer especially if the employer catches wind of it? You ARE aware that companies monitor that kinda stuff like that, right? You would have to be pretty stupid to assume they don't.

I think the point is more that we shouldn't expect people to wear out their bodies for less than living wages.

People wearing out their bodies for less than living wages isn't exclusive to Disney, though.
 

ImperfectPixie

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Or it's quite possible that some like to be loyal to the people they work for. Why would they agree with someone bashing their employer especially if the employer catches wind of it? You ARE aware that companies monitor that kinda stuff like that, right? You would have to be pretty stupid to assume they don't.



People wearing out their bodies for less than living wages isn't exclusive to Disney, though.
Oh, I'm well aware. My husband installs floors for a living and his body is not faring well. (He's 54.)
 

hopemax

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Your opinion of nobody should take a physical job that does not pay a living wage is not even close to being realistic.
Nice job deleting the words " be expected" out of my sentence. Labor reserves the right to say no, at any time, and capital has to deal with the consequences. That's how free markets work.

Are you saying that people should be forced into accepting physical jobs for non-living wages? A person can't say "no, I am seeking other employment?" Because that's the only way to disagree with my point.

Of course, physical jobs at low pay will continue to exist in 2021 and beyond and some will feel they have no option but to take it. But with this labor situation, people realized they do have other options at their skill level (the key ingredient that was missing before). Physical labor has become a "small labor pool" due to all the different types of jobs that have been created as economies grew and everyone else's reticence to do it. Small labor pools are ultimately hard to maintain at low wages. We accept this for skilled labor, but it's true with any type. In previous centuries we had large labor pools for physical labor. Now we don't.
 

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