News 'Disney Enchantment' coming to Magic Kingdom October 1 2021

[UNCgolf]

Only because said nostalgia would be tied to/associated with a celebration that has since expired. There are other ways they could've done it though but I for one am glad it went down as it did. Let this be a lesson that spectaculars are in fact important and heavily scrutinized.

It wouldn't have to be tied to the celebration, though. Disney could do a show with nods to/music from old attractions (and older movies) without making it solely for an anniversary.

Regardless, I hope they incorporate older movies into the new spectacular. I certainly understand wanting to highlight newer films, but DE seems like it's almost exclusively about films released in the past decade or so. That was never going to make for an especially good show for me regardless of how good the projections, fireworks, etc. are.

 

[mikejs78]

It wouldn't have to be tied to the celebration, though. Disney could do a show with nods to/music from old attractions (and older movies) without making it solely for an anniversary.

Regardless, I hope they incorporate older movies into the new spectacular. I certainly understand wanting to highlight newer films, but DE seems like it's almost exclusively about films released in the past decade or so. That was never going to make for an especially good show for me regardless of how good the projections, fireworks, etc. are.

Is that perception or reality though? Enchantment contains:

• Just around the Riverbend
• Be Our Guest
• Under the Sea
• You've got a friend in me
• A Whole New World
• You can Fly
• Night on Bald Mountain

Vs

• Almost There
• We Know the Way
• Epiphany
• Into the Unknown
• I Am Moana

So that's 5 songs from the last decade, 5 from the Renaissance, and 2 classics.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Is that perception or reality though? Enchantment contains:

• Just around the Riverbend
• Be Our Guest
• Under the Sea
• You've got a friend in me
• A Whole New World
• You can Fly
• Night on Bald Mountain

Vs

• Almost There
• We Know the Way
• Epiphany
• Into the Unknown
• I Am Moana

So that's 5 songs from the last decade, 5 from the Renaissance, and 2 classics.

I think sometimes people forget how long ago things like Little Mermaid came out. Those songs really are "classics" and "nostalgic" at this point.

I think what is missing is reference to the history of WDW specifically though - it is the 50th anniversary of that location, not of Disney making IP

Have bits of/from Walt and Roy, have nods to classic ride music and past night time shows. Heck, have people send in photos from past trip and project them on th castle or Main St.

 

[UNCgolf]

Is that perception or reality though? Enchantment contains:

• Just around the Riverbend
• Be Our Guest
• Under the Sea
• You've got a friend in me
• A Whole New World
• You can Fly
• Night on Bald Mountain

Vs

• Almost There
• We Know the Way
• Epiphany
• Into the Unknown
• I Am Moana

So that's 5 songs from the last decade, 5 from the Renaissance, and 2 classics.

That's fair, although considering Night on Bald Mountain (and all of Fantasia) isn't really Disney music (i.e. wasn't something written for Disney), that almost feels like a separate category. I think having more than one song (or even two) from that period would be better since there are so many great songs.

I also don't like recording new versions instead of using the originals, so that's another issue I have in general (and not just with Enchantment).

EDIT: I guess the bigger issue with featuring films from the past 10-15 years is in the projections. They show a few old classics, some Renaissance films, and then basically every movie that's been released by Disney or Pixar in the recent past. I'm not sure they show a clip/character from a single film released in the 30 years between Sleeping Beauty and Little Mermaid.

 

[mikejs78]

EDIT: I guess the bigger issue with featuring films from the past 10-15 years is in the projections. They show a few old classics, some Renaissance films, and then basically every movie that's been released by Disney or Pixar in the recent past. I'm not sure they show a clip/character from a single film released in the 30 years between Sleeping Beauty and Little Mermaid.

There's one scene from The Sword and the Stone, but your point is well taken. HEA certainly had a lot more depth and variety from the catalog.

 

[Tom P.]

I think sometimes people forget how long ago things like Little Mermaid came out. Those songs really are "classics" and "nostalgic" at this point.

They are, but not in the same sense that songs from the original era Disney films that Walt himself produced are. I think it's useful to separate out the "classic era" from the "Disney renaissance era," IMHO. Though, admittedly, as one who grew up in the renaissance era, that is my favorite era of Disney music, even more so than the classic films (with apologies to Walt, the Sherman Brothers, et al.).

 

[MisterPenguin]

Many of the Renaissance films have been made 'modern' by reboots and new attractions.

 

[UNCgolf]

This is the thing, I'm kind of curious why they would think that a dose of WDW nostalgia would preclude a fireworks show from running for an extended period anyway? This is one of the ways WDW and Disneyland are very different: Disneyland really capitalises on their history and uses it to build emotional connections whereas WDW management seems completely indifferent to the resort's history.

It's very strange when you consider that Disney+ and their publishing arm put out shows and books that celebrate the history of WDW alongside that of Disneyland, but the people who run WDW itself don't seem to think it's a wining marketing strategy.

Considering Iger's disdain for Expedition Everest and Chapek... well, just being Chapek, they may not consider the park's history very useful or relevant. I could see both of them believing everything that came before was inferior and what they are doing now is better, so why would you want to highlight that old junk?

 

[InnoventionMedia]

Got some footage of the Enchantment test with the new intro; thought I would share it here. Let me know what you all think?
Looks like they used the pyro from before Tinkerbell's flight and a few other areas to use in the new section. Hopefully that's just for the test and not actually the final product

 

[gerarar]

Got some footage of the Enchantment test with the new intro; thought I would share it here. Let me know what you all think?
Looks like they used the pyro from before Tinkerbell's flight and a few other areas to use in the new section. Hopefully that's just for the test and not actually the final product

Thanks for capturing!
I didn't realize they actually "stole" pyro from Tink's flight for the intro. I just thought maybe something misfired or failed. That would be bad because Tink's part as-is is meh.

The finale itself wasn't changed much. I recall counting like 4 additional shells, including a second heart firework on "cuz the spark is in your heart.."

 

[InnoventionMedia]

Thanks for capturing!
I didn't realize they actually "stole" pyro from Tink's flight for the intro. I just thought maybe something misfired or failed. That would be bad because Tink's part as-is is meh.

The finale itself wasn't changed much. I recall counting like 4 additional shells, including a second heart firework on "cuz the spark is in your heart.."

Of course! Any time there is a test I will try to be on it
Yes they stole or "borrowed" several sections of pyro from later parts later on in the show. If you notice the fan from before the star at the beginning of Almost There is missing; its at the beginning as well
I'm not sure if that's a second heart; I only saw one, they just moved it back to that part instead of the first mention of "heart" in the lyrics

 

[InnoventionMedia]

Also there was a private event last night that had a special show; I didn't manage to record that, however, I did get footage of the Enchantment that played afterwards. It has a lot of the same pyro changes from the test; except the intro is missing

 

[wtyy21]

Signs of change may go ahead for Enchantment as we clearly seen new fireworks on the opening segment. However, some pyros go off due to wind.

 

[jrhwdw]

Signs of change may go ahead for Enchantment as we clearly seen new fireworks on the opening segment. However, some pyros go off due to wind.

Thanks!!!!!! Totally forgot to check Enchantment last night!!! Long Day and figured DPB would give us a heads up! Since Steve said there should be an announcement with this......

Maybe Tomorrow?? Who Knows?? LOL!!!!

 

[Disney Glimpses]

It wouldn't have to be tied to the celebration, though. Disney could do a show with nods to/music from old attractions (and older movies) without making it solely for an anniversary.

This is not something todays leadership would ever consider doing. Doesn’t sell enough Disney+ subscriptions.

 

[gerarar]

Signs of change may go ahead for Enchantment as we clearly seen new fireworks on the opening segment. However, some pyros go off due to wind.

Looks like there were also some new shells in the Moana reprise (the quiet voice is still inside you..). And a couple new in the finale as well.

Interesting they would even do this without debuting the new Walt intro. This show with the additional shells would be a completely new profile separate from the profile with said new intro.

 

[jrhwdw]

Looks like there were also some new shells in the Moana reprise (the quiet voice is still inside you..). And a couple new in the finale as well.

Interesting they would even do this without debuting the new Walt intro. This show with the additional shells would be a completely new profile separate from the profile with said new intro.

From the Test, it looks like DE's usual Fanfare Intro plays before Walt/Retro WDW. So it looks like MK only put in the new Fanfare Pyro last night.

I'm sure it was confusing for anyone who knew about the Test that was in MK last night to see that and go right into DE's Theme Song You're right about that.....

 

[UNCgolf]

This is not something todays leadership would ever consider doing. Doesn’t sell enough Disney+ subscriptions.

I agree, which is a huge problem.

 

[doctornick]

This is the thing, I'm kind of curious why they would think that a dose of WDW nostalgia would preclude a fireworks show from running for an extended period anyway? This is one of the ways WDW and Disneyland are very different: Disneyland really capitalises on their history and uses it to build emotional connections whereas WDW management seems completely indifferent to the resort's history.

It's very strange when you consider that Disney+ and their publishing arm put out shows and books that celebrate the history of WDW alongside that of Disneyland, but the people who run WDW itself don't seem to think it's a wining marketing strategy.

I don’t disagree with the premise but they did just develop and run Epcot Forever. Granted it was an intentional limited run but it did show a willingness to celebrate the park itself.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I don’t disagree with the premise but they did just develop and run Epcot Forever. Granted it was an intentional limited run but it did show a willingness to celebrate the park itself.

Good point, though Epcot more generally seems like a weird anomaly in this regard. They just put on a 50th Anniversary Celebration for WDW that resembles a generic marketing campaign without additions or advertisements that focus on the history of the resort. At Epcot, on the other hand, it seems like all they ever talk about recently is the history of the park. Perhaps that's a telling sign that the best thing Epcot has going for it in the present is the memory of its past.