Disney Cruise Prices - ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?

[Rosso11]

The #1 reason for the delay for adding new ships is simply the fact that the euro is too high. When the euro goes down, which it slowly is doing now, we will have more Disney ships. It's as simple as that. It's not brain science it's simple economics.

 

[headmouse2000]

Unfortunately, I think it's a result of the Walmart-ification of America: we've gotten ourselves so used to looking for the low prices and often neglect the quality aspect of merchandise. Yes, you can book a crappy Carnival cruise just as easily as you can buy most of the crappy stuff at Walmart. But true quality just costs more and I think the DCL is an example of that.

couldn't of said it better myself.

 

[William Marsden]

I just don't see how the original poster cannot fathom the concept of simple economics.

Every Disney cruise ship fills up to capacity. For every crybaby who cannot pay the X amount of dollars, there are plenty more families who can pay the amount, and gladly will hand over the money.

Are their cruises priced highly? Certainly. Does that mean they should lower the cost so that the lower income families can come aboard? I say no. Sure, it may be the "generous" thing to do, it's just bad business.

If they had trouble filling up boats, you would have a legitimate argument. But since every ship that sets sail is booked, I don't think lowering prices is an option (though raising them is-and should be).

Feel free to ride along side in your rowboat, I'm sure they have great cuisine.

Either you've just jumped in without reading all of the postings, or you're as thick as the plexiglass on the Disney ships so I'll state my position once again. I'm not crying over the fact that DCL's prices are high. I'm not asking them to treat the cruise line as if they were running a charity. I just can't believe that they are simply sitting on their laurels and moving so cautiously. In fact, they aren't moving at all. WDW is different. The themeparks are constantly changing. In the past few years they've invested millions into creating and building new resorts and attractions despite the high price of steel. Didn't they have to use steel when they constructed Expedition Everest, Mission Space, Mickey's Philharmagic, Soarin', Disneyland Hong Kong etc.?

The Disney Magic debuted in 1998 and the Wonder came along in 1999. Since then every major cruise line has built or is building substantially to their fleets. They've all added new ships despite the high price of steel and the Euros poor exchange rate. Celebrity has added 5 new ships since 1999. NCL has added 7, HAL 8, Carnival and Princess both have 10 and Royal Caribbean has or will have 11. The only thing DCL has added are higher cruise fares. Are they now sailing with full ships? Certainly. Will they always be sailing at full capacity? Not unless changes are made.

The cruise industry is very competitive. If DCL sits around and stagnates, nobody benefits. If all they do is raise prices without putting a major investment in their company as other cruise lines are doing, they will sail into the sunset. It already happened that way for Dolphin, Regal, Delta Steamboats, and several other now defunct cruise companies. Either they invest or they will lose their investment. That's simple economics. I'm not being a crybaby. I'm just stating fact.:hammer:

P.S. Frank, I don't have a rowboat. I couldn't find one at Wal*Mart!

 

[William Marsden]

The prices I used were for December 06/January 07. Peak season for a cruise.

That's for 2 adults on a three day cruise leaving on 12/7, 12/14, 1/11, 1/18, or 1/25. All of those dates are outside of the peak season. During peak season a catagory 11 stateroom runs $1,481.90 if you depart 1/4/07, $1561.90 if you leave on 12/21/06 and $2041.90 if you go 12/28/06. Facts are stubborn things.

 

[shadsdad]

WE have been on 14 Criuses, HAL, Princess, Carnival, RCL, NCl, and Disney 4 times. Each line has its good points.
Disney was great for our family vacations. They do magical things but the food is not the best unless you eat in Palo's every night. HAL and Princess have alot better food. WE do like the split bathroom on Disney because it makes getting ready to go out a whole lot easer. WE have had cabins just as big on other ships.
Our next cruise is on RCL, the price is almost $ 2000.00 cheaper than Disney for a 7 day criuse. We have sailed on Hal for half as much as it would have cost us on Disney.
Disney can charge what they do because they sail with over 95% capacity on every sailing. They don't have to lower there prices because they have enough people willing to pay the higher price.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Disney Cruise IS too exspensive for most of the people. If you don't like negative words of Disney curise, don't read the thread.

And, if you think its too expensive....DONT GO.

 

[Hakunamatata]

So I guess you don't like going to WDW. At anytime, the park may be filled with horrible "Wal*Mart people" like myself. Yes, we might stay at value resorts or we may get a good deal at a moderate or deluxe resort, but we're out there. We may be standing in line right next to you! You can run but you can't hide. We're everywhere.

Thats why I like going on Target weekends...

 

[mkt]

That's for 2 adults on a three day cruise leaving on 12/7, 12/14, 1/11, 1/18, or 1/25. All of those dates are outside of the peak season. During peak season a catagory 11 stateroom runs $1,481.90 if you depart 1/4/07, $1561.90 if you leave on 12/21/06 and $2041.90 if you go 12/28/06. Facts are stubborn things.

I was trying to make it affordable, but obviously you're just hellbent on proving me wrong. So you know what, I concede. You're right, I'm wrong. You can kiss my ______, and have a nice day. You aren't worth getting into this argument with.

 

[Dragonrider1227]

I know. My mom's jaw hit the floor when she found out. It'll be a long time if ever before we go on that. Until then, WDW does it well enough for me.

 

[ClemsonTigger]

I was trying to make it affordable, but obviously you're just hellbent on proving me wrong. So you know what, I concede. You're right, I'm wrong. You can kiss my ______, and have a nice day. You aren't worth getting into this argument with.

Yea, don't waste your time, sounds a lot like Merlin's brother....:fork:
So nice to have someone just join the site and start by insulting or picking fights with so many others.....:brick:

 

[wannab@dis]

This whole things seems simple to me. If you think DCL costs to much, don't go.

One of two things will happen. First, others will fill your spot and the DCL pricing structure will be proven sound. Or second, they will have empty cabins and will start lowering prices to fill the cruises.

 

[Shaman]

The best part of the price on DCL is you don't have to put up with Wal*Mart people.

What exactly is a Walmart person?

 

[Shaman]

This whole things seems simple to me. If you think DCL costs to much, don't go.

One of two things will happen. First, others will fill your spot and the DCL pricing structure will be proven sound. Or second, they will have empty cabins and will start lowering prices to fill the cruises.

Exactly. It really is a simple concept to most people, I'm sure. :sohappy:

 

[ClemsonTigger]

What exactly is a Walmart person?

Think derogatory, like steerage, city bus.....
Folks not likely to bring their tuxedos and gowns on the cruise....

 

[MickeyTigg]

This whole things seems simple to me. If you think DCL costs to much, don't go.

One of two things will happen. First, others will fill your spot and the DCL pricing structure will be proven sound. Or second, they will have empty cabins and will start lowering prices to fill the cruises.

Exactly....if enough people feel that way....less people will go on the cruises....ships will leave not full....the suits will see that and lower prices.

The fact that the ships are full....means they can fill up the cruises at that price.

Simple law of capitalism....you charge as much as the market will tolerate...maximize profits.

Disney isn't in the charity market when it comes to the vacation and cruise business. They are in the business to make money....so they are going to charge as much as people will pay and still cruise or vacation. If that's too much for you to pay...don't go.

I would love to have a Toyota Sequoia for a car....frankly, I can't afford that for a car. Should I be screaming to Toyota to lower the price so I can buy it?

 

[HMGhost13]

agreed with the others. don't like the price, why go?

i don't go to the movies much anymore. why? in 4 months time i can get the same movie for $15 in the first week. less than what my family of five will pay for at the movies (tickets alone).

i don't buy my soda at Harris Teeter or any super market. why? $4 for a 6-pack of .5 liter of Cokes? i don't think so. I WILL take the Wal-Mart $2.70 for it. same stuff.

I've been on 2 disney cruises. I haven't been on any other. i won't compare them to any other. i had a blast on both of the cruises i went on (4-day/night/whatever and then a 7). did i personally pay for it? no. my parents did. and when did we go? well it sure wasn't spring break or summer vacation. that's something else everyone is forgetting. WHEN are you going? it's like disney world. you go during peak time or around a holiday it's GOING to be MUCH more expensive. also depends on how soon you book it. if it's year or more away it won't be as expensive, a penny saved is a penny earned. also, look at ways you can save. my parents have taken 3 trips all together. they booked the third trip while on their 20th anniversary for the following year, while on the cruise. not only that they did some kind of deal through Costco that knocked off even more money.

there are ways around it. always will be. if you're too lazy (or ignorant in some cases that i've seen...) to find them then don't go and complain to someone who'll actually care. end of story.

 

[napnet]

The best part of the price on DCL is you don't have to put up with Wal*Mart people.

Wal*Mart is the great equalizer... everyone shops there eventually no matter what your social or economic class. I have seen both rich and poor in our walmart... The coach of the local college football team (FSU) shops there and he makes $2 million or more a year...

 

[Shaman]

Think derogatory, like steerage, city bus.....
Folks not likely to bring their tuxedos and gowns on the cruise....

That's what I thought CT...

So um...how exactly does one come up with the term "walmart people" without stepping foot in a walmart? And if in fact, the person did step foot in a walmart, and comes up with said term then or sometime after frequent visits, does that not make that person a walmart person?

:lookaroun

I wonder if Target people are good enough to take Disney cruises....

 

[ClemsonTigger]

That's what I thought CT...

So um...how exactly does one come up with the term "walmart people" without stepping foot in a walmart? And if in fact, the person did step foot in a walmart, and comes up with said term then or sometime after frequent visits, does that not make that person a walmart person?

:lookaroun

I wonder if Target people are good enough to take Disney cruises....

As Napnet said a few posts ago, in truth, most everyone shops at WalMart. It just tends to be used in conversation or jokes to be lower classed...and yes, Target can fit into that category, likewise Greyhound busses and Southwest Airlines.... not really deserved.

Well, it all ends up being derogatory...

 

[William Marsden]

This whole things seems simple to me. If you think DCL costs to much, don't go.

One of two things will happen. First, others will fill your spot and the DCL pricing structure will be proven sound. Or second, they will have empty cabins and will start lowering prices to fill the cruises.

I think that there's a third option that eventually will happen. DCL will expand. DCL will build more ships and possibly sail to other destinations. When this happens, the supply of cabins will increase and they'll be doing some wheeling and dealing to fill those cabins and prices will come down. It's inevitable. Some say the reason that they're waiting to build new ships is because of the high price of oil and steel or a poor exchange rate on the Euro. I think that there's also another big reason - a company has to establish themselves before they can expand.

In a previous post I wrote that since 1999 when Disney's last ship set sail, Celebrity has added 5 ships to its fleet, NCL 7, HAL 8, both Carnival and Princess have added 10, while RCL has added 11. DCL has just added higher prices. Well, upon further reflection I realized that with the exception of Celebrity - the new kid on the block - all of the other cruise lines were started in the 60's or 70's. Those companies had already established their product. In less then six years, the Disney Cruise Line has become a remarkable success story. But we all have to concede that they are mass market. Disney is not attempting to make its cruise line into a luxury brand with fewer cabins, more personalized service, 4 star cuisine and smaller boats. When they build more boats the prices are going to come down.

I said before that Americans like a good deal. Well Americans can also be very impatient but if you want a good deal, you have to be patient. 2006 and 2007 will probably be lousy years to take a Disney Cruise if you want a deal. Oh well. I'll just sail on another cruise line. But think about this. You can now buy a plasma T.V. for less than $1500.00. You couldn't do that in 2001. You can buy a VCR for less than $40.00. Remember what the prices were like in 1980? Think about computers, cell phones, camcorders, cd players and microwaves. Nowaday's everyone is cruising and DCL is going to want everyone to cruise with them. Those who are sailing with DCL nowadays may feel some exclusivity. My prediction - enjoy the feeling - your days are numbered.