Disney confirms 'Frozen' makeover coming to Epcot's Norway Pavilion

[Sage of Time]

Yes, Disney has said that a Ride about Frozen will feature the characters of Frozen and some of the music of Frozen. It wouldn't be a ride based on Frozen if it didn't. That doesn't mean it can't at the same time show what makes Norway a beautiful land and integrate aspects of Norwegian culture into other areas of the attraction. We just don't know yet.

Oh, but if we look at their track record, we do.

I really don't see how there can be anything cultural in this new ride when there's nothing cultural in Frozen, safe for aesthetics.

It's Nemo in the Seas all over again. There's nothing there, either, that ties it to the future and the wider theme of the park. WS with an animated feature ride in it will suffer the same thematic rift.

I appreciate that you're still optimistic... but... I just don't see it having any semblance of culture to it. It's all fantasy, all elsa, all the time.

BTW i keep saying it, I'll say it again....ITS ONLY DISNEY FOLKS. aint nobody curing cancer, creating world peace or getting adopted by Angelina & Brad...ITS JUST DISNEY ...lighten up!!!! and mind the energy u bring in the forums...so over the bleak negativity in here
#byeFelicia

You're on a Disney discussion board, not a world news forum. We're here to discuss Disney, what makes it tick, and what we don't like and what we like about it.

Learning to communicate properly in this venue would help, too.

 

[danlb_2000]

My point Dr. Phil is that ITS JUST DISNEY. theres no negative bull in Disney. its meant to uplift. if a ride gets u this twisted oooooooooo lawd....i'll pray for u
#illPray4U

So there is nothing in your life that you are so passionate about that you would speak out against it if it stopped living up to your expectations?

 

[Sage of Time]

It comes down to the fact that its a slippery slope. The vague connections people and Disney use to justify Frozen/Norway could be applied in the same manor to any movie/attraction. This Frozen overlay will be embraced thus allowing any aspect of the parks to become a target for a budget friendly overlay/remake when the next hit movie comes along.

Exactly. This is a big blow for World Showcase's coherency. ANYTHING could be placed ANYWHERE after this. Gross.

 

[danlb_2000]

It is my sincere hope that the new building is an architectural fit and extension of the original Norway pavilion. I do not want to see a forced-perspective ice castle situated between Mexico's Mayan temple and China's Temple of Heaven.

I think it would be cool if you couldn't see any building at all, just rock work, trees and landscaping to hide the show building.

 

[Clamman73]

It is my sincere hope that the new building is an architectural fit and extension of the original Norway pavilion. I do not want to see a forced-perspective ice castle situated between Mexico's Mayan temple and China's Temple of Heaven.

I'm curious what the sight line is gonna be like from here. (margarita in hand from LaCava)

 

[danlb_2000]

I'm curious what the sight line is gonna be like from here. (margarita in hand from LaCava)
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It looks the way it is layed out there are creating an alcove towards the exiting pavillion which should make it less obvious from Mexico.

 

[Sage of Time]

I think it would be cool if you couldn't see any building at all, just rock work, trees and landscaping to hide the show building.

Goodness, this.

I didn't even think of an ice castle or something sullying up the pavilion's skyline. UGH. Please. No.

 

[danlb_2000]

Goodness, this.

I didn't even think of an ice castle or something sullying up the pavilion's skyline. UGH. Please. No.

An ice castle would be the worst case. If it's a building it should blend in with the rest of the Norway pavillion so it could easily be re-purposed in the future.

 

[Sage of Time]

An ice castle would be the worst case. If it's a building it should blend in with the rest of the Norway pavillion so it could easily be re-purposed in the future.

Maybe one day EPCOT will grow out of this painful phase, and yes, everything will be repurposed for actual edutainment. I long for that day.

 

[FettFan]

Speaking of fictional empires, you just made me wish Atlantis did better way back when. We could have had it all: Fire Mountain in Magic Kingdom, Atlantis Subs at Disneyland, a really cool in-house Sci-Fi IP, a TV show with a crossover with Gargoyles and more Mignola designed monsters, turbonerds speaking Atlantean at conventions...

Unfortunately Atlantis was more or less Stargate Without Aliens.

 

[Prince Thomas]

Like, like, like, ..... because the Like button wasn't enough.

#appplause

 

[Matt_Black]

Unfortunately Atlantis was more or less Stargate Without Aliens.

"Scientist discovers lost civilization and scores hot chick" goes back a LOT further than Stargate.

 

[Prince Thomas]

Oh, but if we look at their track record, we do.

I really don't see how there can be anything cultural in this new ride when there's nothing cultural in Frozen, safe for aesthetics.

It's Nemo in the Seas all over again. There's nothing there, either, that ties it to the future and the wider theme of the park. WS with an animated feature ride in it will suffer the same thematic rift.

I appreciate that you're still optimistic... but... I just don't see it having any semblance of culture to it. It's all fantasy, all elsa, all the time.
You're on a Disney discussion board, not a world news forum. We're here to discuss Disney, what makes it tick, and what we don't like and what we like about it.

Learning to communicate properly in this venue would help, too.

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So there is nothing in your life that you are so passionate about that you would speak out against it if it stopped living up to your expectations?

i always embrace change in life. Most humans don't like change in their lives... So I totally get it! But change is the one constant thing in life.... I'm a dancer choreographer, very passionate about that. It changes all the time..... But I love the constant change. Keeps me on my toes, relevant and young/youthful! And BTW I got love for all y'all om here!

 

[Nemo14]

I didn't realize people still use those dumb hashtag things anymore...

 

[Monkee Girl]

Norway is perhaps the most abused area in WDW. The first black eye came when the converted Akershus - once a very good Norwegian restaurant and a personal favorite - into princess cattle call dining. The second black eye came when they installed Frozen stuff in the Stave Church. The Maelstrom debacle is the final kick in the balls that will bring it to it's cultural knees. But I guess it will make a lot of 10 year old girls happy...

That's how I feel. I don't hate the princesses and understand why they are there. But I would prefer the pavilions to be sold on their own merits. A character here and there is fine. Full on characterfying the place is a little much. I think of China and Morocco and how even though Mulan and Aladdin are there, there is not a bulk (if any) merchandise crowding the place. The museum in Morocco is not Aladdin themed. But Norway is just a mess right now. I have no interest in going there when I arrive for Easter.

Trying to keep my posts to 1 paragraph at a time. I have so much to say I could write a novel, lol

 

[Monkee Girl]

I actually didn't have a problem with the Frozen stuff in the Stave Church since I think it was handled appropriately. It was very clearly showing how the real Norway influenced specific elements of the world of Frozen.

This is where my second paragraph was going to go, haha

I also didn't mind the Stave Church update because it merged the real artifacts with how they inspired the movie. Though I wasn't a big fan of the film, it was nice to see. And I think the museums should update every few years. I don't think it should STAY Frozen, but it was one of the few updates I didn't horribly mind. I would like them to update it again soon with other Norwegian artifacts and information.

 

[joup7]

sorry if this has been said previously in here.

remember how we all kept wishing that Disney would fill in some of the gaps between existing countries in the World Showcare with new countries? Be careful of what you wish for, you just might get it. The newest country: Arendelle.

 

[wdrive]

To be honest I have a problem with Aladdin meeting in Morocco. Morocco isn't Agrabah.

Would the backlash be as big if Disney built an Aladdin ride in Morocco? It fits as well as Arendelle does in Norway.

 

[danlb_2000]

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i always embrace change in life. Most humans don't like change in their lives... So I totally get it! But change is the one constant thing in life.... I'm a dancer choreographer, very passionate about that. It changes all the time..... But I love the constant change. Keeps me on my toes, relevant and young/youthful! And BTW I got love for all y'all om here!

Not all change is good, and not all change should be embraced.

 

[Sage of Time]

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What?

To be honest I have a problem with Aladdin meeting in Morocco. Morocco isn't Agrabah.

Would the backlash be as big if Disney built an Aladdin ride in Morocco? It fits as well as Arendelle does in Norway.

I'd hate it, for one. LOL