News Disney CEO Bob Chapek suggests price hikes are coming to the parks thanks to guest demand

Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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mysto said:
Jerome Powell said inflation would be transient.

We've been had by the moneychangers. Again.

Chapek is merely doing what the big business schools have trained him to do. All big corps are doing the same thing.
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The last few weeks has been telling companies they’ll sell LESS product in the period…surplus product, dropping prices and huge, increasing consumer debt.

…so of course…that means Everyone buys each other’s stock to make a quick 10% gain…

…right
 
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jpinkc

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I hate to join this so late, but DAMN!!! I know TWDC doesnt care about us fans that come every year or a couple of times a year. I just cringe anytime that Curly Joe looking MF'er opens his trap (I wont insult the real "Curly" Curly Howard by calling him that). If you dont know who it is look it up :p. I just see such a disgusting level of greed, any idea that these places were made for everyone to enjoy is so long ago dead and buried its horrible. TWDC cant hope to ride Marvel and Star Wars forever. I dont want to go back to the days where the parks are the only thing keeping TWDC alive. But how can anyone justify anymore increases with all that has already been increased. (genie+) etc. A Disney vacation in the last 10 years has more than doubled easily for our family of 4. We used to go twice a year long weekend if we could swing it and at least a whole week to 10 days for a big trip. I can say honestly it will be a very long time til we go back and I have lots of family memories at WDW that are precious to me. I want to be able to take my Grandchildren there someday, but its turning into the Billionaires Boys club. I am not taking out a second mortgage in my retirement to take my family to WDW. I want TWDC to survive but VALUE or SERVICE or Pixie Dust isnt anything TWDC understands anymore.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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VJ said:
"To celebrate 100 Years of Wonder, The Walt Disney Company announced a celebratory 100% price increase..."
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I have been saying they should do this for the last 5yrs or so. It would be a fantastic experiment. I would absolutely love to watch how it plays out.
Sirwalterraleigh said:
Is it possible they are building the best theme park in Orlando? Would Comcast have the stones?
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While I haven't seen Potter land yet. Everyone I know who has gone, all say the same thing. And that's it is on par with Disney theming. And from what I've seen in videos, I would agree. So if the same effort that went into Potter, is going into Epic, you could very well have something that rivals a Disney park.

If there's a time to strike, that time is now for uni. And hopefully they know it. Disneys reign as the gold standard of theming is vulnerable. They've been doing the minimum for a while now. It was always, no one can touch what Disney is doing. Then along came Potter and uh oh, happy learned to putt.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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erasure fan1 said:
While I haven't seen Potter land yet. Everyone I know who has gone, all say the same thing. And that's it is on par with Disney theming. And from what I've seen in videos, I would agree. So if the same effort that went into Potter, is going into Epic, you could very well have something that rivals a Disney park.
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Diagon Alley is incredible, but it's also a location from a massive IP. I'm not sure a land based on How to Train Your Dragon is going to have the same level of success regardless of how well-themed it is, but who knows -- it's certainly possible. Pandora works very well and I think it attracts people even if they've never seen and/or don't care about Avatar, although I also think it's probably easier to do that with a natural/wilderness area.

If the attractions are good to great, people aren't going to care about the IP, so it doesn't really matter there. It can have an effect on the rest of the land and its shops/dining, though, because people might be less inclined to spend time there outside of the attractions if the theming doesn't work for them.
 
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sullyinMT

sullyinMT

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erasure fan1 said:
I have been saying they should do this for the last 5yrs or so. It would be a fantastic experiment. I would absolutely love to watch how it plays out.

While I haven't seen Potter land yet. Everyone I know who has gone, all say the same thing. And that's it is on par with Disney theming. And from what I've seen in videos, I would agree. So if the same effort that went into Potter, is going into Epic, you could very well have something that rivals a Disney park.

If there's a time to strike, that time is now for uni. And hopefully they know it. Disneys reign as the gold standard of theming is vulnerable. They've been doing the minimum for a while now. It was always, no one can touch what Disney is doing. Then along came Potter and uh oh, happy learned to putt.
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And, whether or not they realize it, the same thing is happening with the cruise line. It used to be they were heads and tails above other family lines (RCCL, Carnival, and NCL). Of course, customer dynamics aside, those lines have arguably closed the gap with their newer classes. Especially, IMO, what NCL sends to Alaska with the Bliss and what is on paper with the Prima class.

All this to say, Disney needs to stop resting on its laurels and historic greatness, or they’ll be surpassed by the next generation.
 
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Fido Chuckwagon

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The Colonel said:
Bob Chapek goes to the hospital in an emergency having terrible chest pains. The surgeon tells him he needs emergency open heart surgery immediately to save his life. But it's going to cost you $100 million dollars. Chapek can't believe it. How can it be so much money? Dynamic pricing the surgeon says. Demand is very high right now.
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You have inadvertantly just described the actual model used by hospitals.
 
sullyinMT

sullyinMT

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UNCgolf said:
Diagon Alley is incredible, but it's also a location from a massive IP. I'm not sure a land based on How to Train Your Dragon is going to have the same level of success regardless of how well-themed it is, but who knows -- it's certainly possible. Pandora works very well and I think it attracts people even if they've never seen and/or don't care about Avatar, although I also think it's probably easier to do that with a natural/wilderness area.

If the attractions are good to great, people aren't going to care about the IP, so it doesn't really matter there. It can have an effect on the rest of the land and its shops/dining, though, because people might be less inclined to spend time there outside of the attractions if the theming doesn't work for them.
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I mostly agree with HTTYD, but if they nail down a good Viking themed restaurant and a solid to great family coaster, it would be a good addition. That show in China, if ported, looks pretty good, too. Not my favorite IP but could be worth one visit. If solid, it would be worth more.

Oddly, I’m more excited for a robust monsters land even though that’s the least familiar IP to me.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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sullyinMT said:
I mostly agree with HTTYD, but if they nail down a good Viking themed restaurant and a solid to great family coaster, it would be a good addition. That show in China, if ported, looks pretty good, too. Not my favorite IP but could be worth one visit. If solid, it would be worth more.

Oddly, I’m more excited for a robust monsters land even though that’s the least familiar IP to me.
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I think the Monsters land has the most potential to be great -- it should allow for the most creative freedom and potentially a wider variety of settings than the other areas.
 
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jpinkc

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I have to agree, I hope Epic Universe kicks Disney in the teeth, maybe it will wake them up. Doubt it but I can dream. I agree Monsterland or whatever they are calling the classic monsters is something i hope goes over big, some nice dark rides should be very doable with those IP's
 
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Lilofan

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The Colonel said:
Bob Chapek goes to the hospital in an emergency having terrible chest pains. The surgeon tells him he needs emergency open heart surgery immediately to save his life. But it's going to cost you $100 million dollars. Chapek can't believe it. How can it be so much money? Dynamic pricing the surgeon says. Demand is very high right now.
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And I thought my emergency appendectomy surgery, cat scan, Saturday overnight visit to ER , release to go home 2 hours after 30 min surgery was expensive , $43K. With my insurance, I paid $0. They did give me crackers and soda in the recovery room.I must have been charged the weekend rate.
 
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Jrb1979

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5thGenTexan said:
Growing up Six Flags Over Texas was my park. It was a real theme park, not amusement park. Each area was themed with rides, shops, uniforms, background music reflective of each of the six flags that once flew over Texas. So, a Texas area, Mexico area, Spain area, etc. All that is gone now. All merchandise is the same, all music is the same, no special uniforms. Just puke your guts coasters and bad food.
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It may lack theming but it does have some of the best coasters in the US and their new attraction that's coming is a first of its kind in North America.
 
marni1971

marni1971

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The Empress Lilly said:
Oh, we've been saying the 'short-term, shareholder value only' business model is unsustainable since twenty years now. ('Begone, evil Eisner...'). Yet here we are.


Truth is, economics and spending has shifted towards experiences. A day at Disney is now more expensive than a colour tv or PC, which would've been an exceedingly strange observation in 1992. Never mind concert tickets ans the like. $5000 Bruce Springsteen tickets, anyone?

Tourism has exploded the past decade. WDW could ride that wave, regardless of any intrinsic value to its offerings. The Mona Lisa and Venice too were infinitely more enjoyable in 2008, without a 45 minute line and the experienced ruined by incessant selfie-takers for the former and permanent shoulder to shoulder crowds for the latter. (And Prague, and Amsterdam, and every great natural wonder on the planet). Speaking of, several European cities have recently resorted to charging entrance fees, simply to diminish exorbitant demand. Disney Parks to a large extent function similarly. There will be no end to the high demand nor high prices.
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I don’t doubt it.

If it was about the guest experience (what TWDC used to be renowned for) and demand v supply they would use their shiny new park reservation system to suitably limit attendance.

If making as much money as possible is the primary concern - at the expense of everything else - they’ll charge as much as they can for as many people who will pay as possible.

We know which way it’s going.
 

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