Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disney Irish]

This right here is why the people seeing it who have not played the game could be a lot higher than you think.

Maybe, but that is likely the only reason, ie parents of players. As I can’t imagine you have Millions of non-parent non-players going to see a video game movie about a video game they don’t play and know little or next to nothing about.

So yeah I’m still willing to bet that a vast majority that have seen it are more likely to have played the game than not.

 

[celluloid]

Maybe, but that is likely the only reason, ie parents of players. As I can’t imagine you have Millions of non-parent non-players going to see a video game movie about a video game they don’t play and know little or next to nothing about.

So yeah I’m still willing to bet that a vast majority that have seen it are more likely to have played the game than not.

Well that changes the concept to a specific dynamic and permanters. The parents/non players of the original IP inspiration are still paid tickets of the movie theater. There was never anything said about vast majority. Just that millions will be seeing it that are not players.

So that is what counts in the point you posted to initially. Millions are going to see this movie who are not fans/players of the game.
Parents, husbands, wives, caregivers, aunts, uncles, grandparents and friends will always go to see things that they are not familiar with and or active participants of.
Just like Transformers, Barbie, Superhero films, Toy Story's toy basis ...everything since the dawn of established IP films. The theaters are happy to sell a ticket to everyone.

 

[Disney Irish]

Well that changes the concept to a specific dynamic and permanters. The parents are still paid tickets of the movie theater.

So that is what counts. Millions are going to see this movie who are not fans/players of the game.

Just like Transformers, Barbi, Toy Story's toy basis ...everything since the dawn of established IP films. They are happy to sell a ticket to everyone.

This isn't a hill I wish to die on, so I'll just say I respectfully disagree.

The point is that there aren't Millions of non-fans/non-players of the game who are buying tickets and going on their own to see the movie. You want to now split hairs and say "but the parents", ok fine. But those parents aren't going without their player kids, ie its still players (even if with others in tow) going to see the movie.

 

[celluloid]

This isn't a hill I wish to die on, so I'll just say I respectfully disagree.

The point is that there aren't Millions of non-fans/players of the game who are buying tickets and going on their own to see the movie.

Ok. I definitely never said anyone was going to see a movie by themselves that they don't wish to see. No splitting hairs. Maybe you were projecting something that was not said? I just say it is reasonable to presume that in a smash blockbuster hit millions are going to be spending ticket money to see something they have not experienced the inspiration from.

Jaws, Gone with The Wind, and any book based screenplay if we want to go back to the most common source inpiration for screenplays in cinematic history. I don't even know how to reasonably claim that one as a number just like any other, but they would be included in the millions seeing the movie that have never played. I did not think you were arguing on a hill, which is odd to me, but rather just not being reasonable that millions of tickets sold to a movie might have people who are not into the lore of the inspiration enough to have played the game.

 

[DKampy]

Jaws, Gone with The Wind, and any book based screenplay if we want to go back to the most common source inpiration for screenplays in cinematic history.

Minecraft will not come close to the legacy of Jaws or Gone With the Wind….Many people are going to Minecraft ironically for just how bad the film is…. To participate in the Memes and TikTok

 

[Disney Irish]

Ok. I definitely never said anyone was going to see a movie by themselves that they don't wish to see. No splitting hairs. Maybe you were projecting something that was not said? I just say it is reasonable to presume that in a smash blockbuster hit millions are going to be spending ticket money to see something they have not experienced the inspiration from.

Jaws, Gone with The Wind, and any book based screenplay if we want to go back to the most common source inpiration for screenplays in cinematic history. I don't even know how to reasonably claim that one as a number just like any other, but they would be included in the millions seeing the movie that have never played. I did not think you were arguing on a hill, which is odd to me, but rather just not being reasonable that millions of tickets sold to a movie might have people who are not into the lore of the inspiration enough to have played the game.

Well you made this statement in response to a poster who said they weren't going to see it because they never played the game -

There are certainly millions of people seeing the movie who have never played it or know as much about it.

As you didn't identify whom those Millions were one can only presume you're talking about those who don't have kids who play or don't play themselves who were going since it was in the context of a poster who said they never played the game. And like that same poster that responded to you, I questioned it also, since I don't think its reasonable to think there are Millions of people who aren't playing the game going to the movie without someone who is playing the game. Since now you want to say its parents, then yes I'll say reasonable to think there are likely Millions of parents (I'll even throw friends and other family in there for you) who aren't fans nor have played the game who bought tickets to go with their player kids/friends.

As for the rest, I don't know the reasoning for bringing in Jaws, Gone with the Wind, or other source inspired movies as those aren't even in the same realm of discussion as a video game movie made for fans of the video game.

 

[celluloid]

Minecraft will not come close to the legacy of Jaws or Gone With the Wind….Many people are going to Minecraft ironically for just how bad the film is…. To participate in the Memes and TikTok

Oh for sure, that is not the point though. Many will see it, not like it and never watch it again. The point was ticket sales in current box office has plenty of people paying to see it that are not playing the source inspiration. The taste is a different situation.
That is one aspect and audience of people seeing it. There are people who love it for what it is and everything inbetween.

 

[celluloid]

Well you made this statement in response to a poster who said they weren't going to see it because they never played the game -



As you didn't identify whom those Millions were one can only presume you're talking about those who don't have kids who play or don't play themselves who were going since it was in the context of a poster who said they never played the game. And like that same poster that responded to you, I questioned it also, since I don't think its reasonable to think there are Millions of people who aren't playing the game going to the movie without someone who is playing the game. Since now you want to say its parents, then yes I'll say reasonable to think there are likely Millions of parents (I'll even throw friends and other family in there for you) who aren't fans nor have played the game who bought tickets to go with their player kids/friends.

As for the rest, I don't know the reasoning for bringing in Jaws, Gone with the Wind, or other source inspired movies as those aren't even in the same realm of discussion as a video game movie made for fans of the video game.

You are sculpting a hill for you again. Did you want one or not? I never said they were going alone or who they were with. I just said plenty of people(reasonablly in the millions out of a smash hit box office worldwide film) who were willing to watch the movie in theaters, have never played it. Reasonable thing to presume.

No other crafting necessary. I am not debating any other claim.

 

[Disney Irish]

You are sculpting a hill for you again. Did you want one or not? I never said they were going alone or who they were with. I just said plenty of people(reasonablly in the millions out of a smash hit box office worldwide film) who were willing to watch the movie in theaters, have never played it. Reasonable thing to presume.

No other crafting necessary. I am not debating any other claim.

Did you miss the part where I was agreeing with you on your presumption based on the quantifier of it being parents?

 

[celluloid]

Did you miss the part where I was agreeing with you on your presumption based on the quantifier of it being parents?

Nope. Just wondering why you crafted a thesis so narrow that has zero do do with any of it and why it is not limited to just parents.

 

[Disney Irish]

Nope. Just wondering why you crafted a thesis so narrow that has zero do do with any of it and why it is not limited to just parents.

Because in my opinion I don't think it reasonable to presume that Millions of non-fan/non-players are going to a movie about a video game they have no interest in without going with someone who is a player, ie they are a parent. And again I don't appear to be alone in this.

So yeah I put a narrow parameter on what I would be willing to agree is a reasonable presumption.

 

[celluloid]

Because in my opinion I don't think it reasonable to presume that Millions of non-fan/non-players are going to a movie about a video game they have no interest in without going with someone who is a player, ie they are a parent. And again I don't appear to be alone in this.

So yeah I put a narrow parameter on what I would be willing to agree is a reasonable presumption.

Ok.

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

Well that changes the concept to a specific dynamic and permanters. The parents/non players of the original IP inspiration are still paid tickets of the movie theater. There was never anything said about vast majority. Just that millions will be seeing it that are not players.

So that is what counts in the point you posted to initially. Millions are going to see this movie who are not fans/players of the game.
Parents, husbands, wives, caregivers, aunts, uncles, grandparents and friends will always go to see things that they are not familiar with and or active participants of.
Just like Transformers, Barbie, Superhero films, Toy Story's toy basis ...everything since the dawn of established IP films. The theaters are happy to sell a ticket to everyone.

You are right. Parents and friends of MC fans are going for sure which will equate to millions. My point was more along the lines of people who are not MC fans were probably skipping this.

 

[celluloid]

You are right. Parents and friends of MC fans are going for sure which will equate to millions. My point was more along the lines of people who are not MC fans were probably skipping this.

For sure. Just like someone who is not a fan of Marvel are likely to skip the next release.

The box office itself ultimately counts the ticket sales.

 

[DKampy]

I still think the social media aspect has a higher percentage of the ticket sales than anything else IMO… I still think it would be a hit among parents with kids…. As someone who goes to the theater on a weekly basis…. Young Kids seem to be very excited for this…more so then any other family film recently

There is a reason projections were so far off from reality… I get that projections are tougher to gauge in a post Covid world… however this is perhaps the biggest discrepancy yet.,.. it was more then double what was originally thought… there is a reason… you can not predict social media trends… they either happen or they don’t

 

[celluloid]

I still think the social media aspect has a higher percentage of the ticket sales than anything else IMO… I still think it would be a hit among parents with kids…. As someone who goes to the theater on a weekly basis…. Young Kids seem to be very excited for this…more so then any other family film recently

There is a reason projections were so far off from reality… I get that projections are tougher to gauge in a post Covid world… however this is perhaps the biggest discrepancy yet.,.. it was more then double what was originally thought… there is a reason… you can not predict social media trends… they either happen or they don’t

That is definitely true. The timing of this is really great for WB

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I’m afraid @Casper Gutman is right, and this kind of thing will become a trend.

 

[Tha Realest]

I’m afraid @Casper Gutman is right, and this kind of thing will become a trend.

Why is this a bad thing? It’s an unalloyed success for movie theaters, which desperately needs one.

Those who are going genuinely seem to be enjoying the experience. Why are you shaming this?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yeah, guy at work's daughter INSISTED they had to go opening night, so they had tickets for a while.

My take on it. It was a really dumb movie, but dumb in the best possible way. It was EXACTLY what it should be, and that was silly, ridiculous, and a TON of fun. And I'd say the box office combined with the viewer reviews vs the "Critics" kind of shows that out. If your top priority going to a movie is just to laugh and enjoy the film, this is for you. If your top priority is to analyze the use of a camera angle and single line in the movie, this is not for you.

Minions movies are complete stupidity…which is why I never miss one in the theaters

Dumb can be good…when your brain doesn’t get alot of time off

 

[celluloid]

Minions movies are complete stupidity…which is why I never miss one in the theaters

Dumb can be good…when your brain doesn’t get alot of time off

Totally. Sometimes I want a circular treat. Sometimes a bagel, sometimes I am down for a doughnut.

For what it is worth, Minecraft was Jason Mamoa's best acting for me since he did that Superbowl commercial where he took his appearance off to reveal a different guy.