Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Farerb]

It is so much fun seeing how triggered you get because of Zegler and Snow White. Thanks for the laughs.

It is so much fun seeing how triggered you get by my posts. Thanks for the laughs.

 

[DKampy]

It is so much fun seeing how triggered you get by my posts. Thanks for the laughs.

So you are trolling just for the laughs

 

[Farerb]

So you are trolling just for the laughs

People don't have to be triggered by my posts, they can just move on and not reply.

 

[Prince-1]

It is so much fun seeing how triggered you get by my posts. Thanks for the laughs.

Your reply is the equivalent of, "I know you but what am I?"

But tell us more about Zegler.

 

[Farerb]

Your reply is the equivalent of, "I know you but what am I?"

But tell us more about Zegler.

Why does it upset you that some people have legitimate criticism about her behavior?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

All the posts are related to CinemaCon which is happening this week.
The posts about Rachel addressed concerns people here were expressing about her future projects. That info should be helpful to all concerned!

Still…not really needed to repost other material

That’s what drew the Disney Dooode Does

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Your reply is the equivalent of, "I know you but what am I?"

But tell us more about Zegler.

Would you ask for no accountability if paramount released this movie?

(That’s rhetorical)

 

[DKampy]

To follow up on this, it looks like Snow White is sitting at 1 screen/theater this coming weekend in my market. Its reported theater count will probably still be in the high 3000s as a result, but the decrease in showtimes continues to be real.

Meanwhile, Minecraft is opening with as many screenings as Brave New World had, which has chewed into the pool of available screenings for a bunch of mid-tier movies, e.g. Black Bag, Novocaine, Mickey 17. In Disney release news, 20th Century's The Amateur gets a handful of pre-release screenings this weekend to try to generate some buzz for next weekend's official release.

My closest theater(10 minute drive) also has Snow white down to 1 theater… what is more interesting to me… Minecraft did not get the same 5-6 theaters planned blockbusters usually get here.. it is only playing in 2 theaters all day… a regular theater and an Ultra Screen… it also has a theater with 2 showtimes of the 3d version which appears to be sharing with Captain America as that movie is down to just a couple of screenings also…the rest of the screens has all the movies you mentioned playing all day… plus the newly released The Friend and H3ll of a summer as well as their weekly The Chosen episodes… hope this type of variety keeps up

 

[TalkingHead]

Talk about stale product. Local multiplex this weekend is still showing Mufasa, Dog Man, and Captain America. Then add to that Snow White and Minecraft and a couple dramedies that scream “wait for streaming or, more likely, skip entirely” and you start to see why the industry is dying. There’s not a single movie playing that I’d feel compelled to recommend to another adult.

 

[brideck]

Talk about stale product. Local multiplex this weekend is still showing Mufasa, Dog Man, and Captain America. Then add to that Snow White and Minecraft and a couple dramedies that scream “wait for streaming or, more likely, skip entirely” and you start to see why the industry is dying. There’s not a single movie playing that I’d feel compelled to recommend to another adult.

Curious as to which movies you're talking about here. Regardless, this feels like a big part of the problem. If movie theaters are only for big event blockbusters, then yeah... they're going to be vacant six months a year.

 

[Disney Irish]

Talk about stale product. Local multiplex this weekend is still showing Mufasa, Dog Man, and Captain America. Then add to that Snow White and Minecraft and a couple dramedies that scream “wait for streaming or, more likely, skip entirely” and you start to see why the industry is dying. There’s not a single movie playing that I’d feel compelled to recommend to another adult.

Before the days of streaming it was normal for a theater to play a movie for 3 or 4 months, sometimes longer. Add to that that the 1st quarter tends to be the slowest part of the year in terms of movie releases and you can see why theaters would keep movies on screens longer, and begging studios to keep them out longer rather than ship to streaming after 45 days.

Otherwise you're having vacant theaters most of the year with only blockbusters being released during the prime summer and winter holiday seasons as @brideck mentioned. Leading to theaters basically going out of business in many markets.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Before the days of streaming it was normal for a theater to play a movie for 3 or 4 months, sometimes longer. Add to that that the 1st quarter tends to be the slowest part of the year in terms of movie releases and you can see why theaters would keep movies on screens longer, and begging studios to keep them out longer rather than ship to streaming after 45 days.

Otherwise you're having vacant theaters most of the year with only blockbusters being released during the prime summer and winter holiday seasons as @brideck mentioned. Leading to theaters basically going out of business in many markets.

Those are good reasons why the streaming model is so flawed

 

[TalkingHead]

Curious as to which movies you're talking about here. Regardless, this feels like a big part of the problem. If movie theaters are only for big event blockbusters, then yeah... they're going to be vacant six months a year.

The Naomi Watts dog movie and the Penguin something (maybe a UK film?). Not really a comment on the quality of either, just saying they both appear to be the type of small scale filmmaking that people have decided isn’t worth a trip to the theater.

 

[Disney Irish]

Those are good reasons why the streaming model is so flawed

Except the problem with that thought is that you assume that each side has the same priorities, which can't be assumed.

To me this indicates more that both sides (studios and theater owners) need to come to a better understanding of release schedules and theatrical windows rather than a particular model being flawed. Because you could say the same thing about the video/dvd post-theatrical model if the same theatrical window was kept, ie less than 70 days.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Those are good reasons why the streaming model is so flawed

Eliminating the VHS/DVD/BluRay market had to seriously hurt Hollywoods bottom line, I complain about the rising cost of D+ but I still spend less a year for D+ then I used to spend buying videos.

I had a large VHS collection, that was then replaced with a larger DVD collection, which was again replaced with an even larger BluRay collection… that all ended probably 5 years ago, I wonder if the revenue from all the D+ subscriptions even matches the lost video sales revenue, spending billions on content for D+ vs spending a couple dollars for each DVD and packaging has to sting.

 

[Farerb]

Eliminating the VHS/DVD/BluRay market had to seriously hurt Hollywoods bottom line, I complain about the rising cost of D+ but I still spend less a year for D+ then I used to spend buying videos.

I had a large VHS collection, that was then replaced with a larger DVD collection, which was again replaced with an even larger BluRay collection… that all ended probably 5 years ago, I wonder if the revenue from all the D+ subscriptions even matches the lost video sales revenue, spending billions on content for D+ vs spending a couple dollars for each DVD and packaging has to sting.

They're releasing Lilo and Stitch on 4K soon.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

They're releasing Lilo and Stitch on 4K soon.

I bet that market is tiny compared to the old DVD market though, I had a theater in my loft with a 120” screen and a 4K projector and don’t even own a 4K bluray player, by the time 4K players came out streaming was already the easier way to watch 4K, without the cost of replacing my collection for the 4th time, I just stream everything now.

 

[Farerb]

I bet that market is tiny compared to the old DVD market though, I had a theater in my loft with a 120” screen and a 4K projector and don’t even own a 4K bluray player, by the time 4K players came out streaming was already the easier way to watch 4K, without the cost of replacing my collection for the 4th time, I just stream everything now.

I don't buy everything on 4K, I stopped getting new movies. Last Disney film I bought was Frozen II and last Pixar film was Luca, but I still want the hand drawn classics.

 

[Prince-1]

Why does it upset you that some people have legitimate criticism about her behavior?

It's not that you can't criticize her, that's fine, it's the quantity and the type of things you are saying. Good news is that there are others online who are seemingly triggered from this actress. But this is a free country (for now) so you go ahead and continue to post about a 23 year old actress.

 

[Prince-1]

Would you ask for no accountability if paramount released this movie?

(That’s rhetorical)

Sorry, but I don't care enough about any movie, no matter what studio it comes from, to continually post nonsense especially about a 23 year old actress. But I guess some people are more passionate about the entertainment industry than I am.