I would like to add that for anyone looking for a particularly good mental defense against this type of thing or just to watch media grifters get figuratively torn to shreds I would recommend the birdmans exposing the grift on YouTube (no I am not shilling for him)
Same.
I don’t agree. Perhaps I’m being naive, but I really do think we can and should work to reverse the normalisation of vitriol and incivility that we have all witnessed this past decade or so.
I don’t find what you’re saying at all controversial. I just happen not to agree with it. From my perspective, it isn’t necessary and wouldn’t actually fix the issue, because those looking to agitate will always find a way (recall the vitriol directed at Halle Bailey, who never set a foot wrong in any of her interviews). Things will only change when decorum once again becomes valued in public discourse. It wasn’t all that long ago that it was.
TikTok I think is especially bad if you spend too much time on it because it’s especially short videos the lesson here everything especially social media in moderation
And with that in mind I’m going to take my own advice to heart and try to stay off these forums for a few hours ta ta for now agent h is out peace!
Yeah, go do some homework or something lol
I mean, they don’t have to!
You're making the assumption that in this case Mackie wasn't PR trained and doesn't stay on script, both of which doesn't appear to be the case.
No…that one was pretty good with a bunch of good parts/actors
Just another day that ends in "y", George.So what’s with all the “airing of grievances” here today, costanza?
That was intentional because the responses I was getting. When the responses were I don't want a corporate canned response or limiting their right to express themselves. Yea, not what I said, at all. So just because I said a little PR training isn't a bad idea and I'm met with, their free speech shouldn't be taken away ,and statements like I just said. That's why I said it, to try and get a better response.
Absolutely. Did you not think when you heard the clip, oh man, this is going to blow up? I know I did. You are telling me that he thinks cap doesn't represent one single nation. So I'm guessing, same as you, that if that's what is meant, he also thinks any person can look up to captain America. I don't think it's taking away anything from a personal standpoint, it's right in line with what we know. But it's a bit hard to say how he should rephrase it when you or I really don't actually know what he thinks. But the overall point is, maybe there's a better way to phrase it that does keep it his personal feelings. There's multiple ways to say things to get a feeling across. So just because he shifts how he says it, doesn't mean the meaning has to be different.
Fair enough. For me I personally don't not try things because I think they won't work. I try it, and if it doesn't work, try something new. Maybe I'm just more optimistic. Haters gonna hate, just as the sun shall rise. So do you think if he left off just the "and I don’t think the term ‘America’ should be one of those" we'd be having this conversation at all? I think we aren't, it's not a blip on anyone's radar.
Well maybe change the discourse then if you're not getting the responses you think you should be getting; instead you're doing the very thing that you're accusing others of. Or maybe better yet realize that your stance is just not going agreed upon by the others here, so no reason to double down and just start doing the very thing you accuse them of.
No, I actually thought I heard it before by others so didn't think it was going to be a big deal. But then I remembered where I heard it before when I read that Forbes article I posted, Chris Evans basically said the exact same thing when he was asked the same question when playing the role. And yet no one jumped all over him when he said it. Heck as provided example here, Cap himself said it at various times in the comics. So this is not like some foreign stance in relation to this character. And as pointed out even in the MCU Cap goes against "America", its the whole basis for Civil War.
Its friendly discourse.…don’t make me separate you two (with my $225 custom plastic one of a kind Jedi lightsaber from MGM)
No, I don't. It's true that his words provided the agitators with a perfect vehicle, though I believe they would have found another, perhaps less effective, pretext to cast their aspersions anyway. You are right that media training would probably result in fewer incidents of this type, but I think it's the actors themselves who should decide whether to receive such training. I personally don't believe it would address the root of the problem.
And those are about to go to $450 once the tariffs kick inIts friendly discourse.
Also no need to damage a collectors item, better to use it in those mock saber battles you don't tell people about.
