It has a great cast… but the question is Ridley Scott… he has not had a good track record of late… don’t get me wrong he is one of the greats…but among the consensus his last great film was 2015 for The Martian and before that 2007 for American Gangster… I say consensus because I liked The Last Duel and Prometheus more than most
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Yeah, if Wish was worked on for five years and still came out Like That, what hope does a hastily-retooled Moana 2 have beyond name recognition? And much as I loved Inside Out, the teaser hasn't made me hopeful for the sequel (especially since, as with the Wreck-It Ralph sequel, it seems reliant on a major retcon to the premise for the other emotions to exist).
If any animated feature is going to be a blockbuster this year, I'd put a dollar-to-donut on Despicable Me 4 instead.
Animaniac93-98
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We're about a week away from the Oscars, so purely for curiosity sake, here's the 10 Best Picture nominees as ranked by domestic box office gross.
Barbie $636.2 million
Oppenheimer $329 million
Killers of the Flower Moon $67.8 million
Poor Things $33.1 million
American Fiction $20.2 million
The Holdovers $20.1 million
Past Lives $11.3 million
Zone of Interest $7.4 million
Anatomy of a Fall $4.8 million
Maestro n/a [Netflix release]
Barbie $636.2 million
Oppenheimer $329 million
Killers of the Flower Moon $67.8 million
Poor Things $33.1 million
American Fiction $20.2 million
The Holdovers $20.1 million
Past Lives $11.3 million
Zone of Interest $7.4 million
Anatomy of a Fall $4.8 million
Maestro n/a [Netflix release]
Wendy Pleakley
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I don't think the story or characters will matter much. The first one just used the common trope of a divorced couple who still have feelings for each other thrown into a disaster situation as a way to create some tension. People remember the cow flying through the air. Can anyone even name the characters?
It was fine, but I don't have any connection to those characters. The ones I remember from these types of movies are the original Jurassic Park cast. They felt genuine to me. The backstories didn't feel forced. Some will say pairing Alan, who doesn't like kids, with kids, is contrived as well. To me, it didn't feel like it was, and it's admittedly a hard line to walk.
I think JP did a good job developing the characters before any action started, rather than just dropping them in and letting a cliché backstory do the heavy lifting.
Who knows though. Audiences are unpredictable and perhaps more discerning nowadays. It takes something special to get me to the theater.
I don't think anyone's making hard predictions one way or the other at this point. We don't even have a trailer.
It just feels like an odd choice given the original had a satisfying and contained story. The hero is dead. The villain is dead. There's no redemption or revenge arcs to be had.
Not to say another movie set in that era can't be compelling, but I've never ever thought I wanted a direct sequel to that movie.
Tony the Tigger
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Apparently they’ve been trying to figure out a way to do it since the first film came out and was so successful. There is an alternate script online wherein the gods raise Russell Crowe from the dead - that’s not what they’re using, obviously.
erasure fan1
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What I meant by story and characters is they need to be what people expect from this kind of film. Like I said it doesn't need to be Shawshank. The characters need to be likeable the story needs to be fun. You are correct with Jurassic park, but that's is an all time classic. Twister was a fun natural disaster flick with a lot good actors. So If they stick to the formula, there's a good chance it's successful.
Ayla
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Jo, Bill, Jonas, Dusty, Rabbit, Aunt Meg...
TalkingHead
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After this weekend Iger’s asking where can he get one of them Dune thingies.
Phroobar
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I saw Dune Part 2 yesterday. It was incredible! Unlike Wish, you can totally see the $190m they spent on it.
Disney Irish
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I know its not a popular opinion, but I preferred the 1984 Lynch version. As that is what I watched growing up. Not to say that this version isn't good, but just not "my" Dune. That said it was a feast for the eyes, the visuals were excellent.
BuddyThomas
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Translation: Let’s post about Dune and add something to try and trigger those who liked Wish.
_caleb
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On the question (in the thread title) of "What happens next?," I think we're going to see continued blurring of lines between "series" and "feature length film."
Movies keep getting longer (apparently because younger audiences want this?), and series are getting shorter (remember 24 to 26-episode seasons? The current average seems to be a little over 10). Streaming has really made binge watching common (which may harmful), but also attention spans seem to be getting shorter.
Anyway, I think we're going to see streaming platforms continue to play with episode length, "limited" series episode counts, "seasons," and release schedules.
Movies keep getting longer (apparently because younger audiences want this?), and series are getting shorter (remember 24 to 26-episode seasons? The current average seems to be a little over 10). Streaming has really made binge watching common (which may harmful), but also attention spans seem to be getting shorter.
Anyway, I think we're going to see streaming platforms continue to play with episode length, "limited" series episode counts, "seasons," and release schedules.
The cool thing is that the new version's boosted interest in the old one to the point that Fathom Events did revival screenings of it (it is that version's 40th anniversary) about two weeks ago! Fathom Events has really been digging in on revival screenings of late, since the multiplexes need movies and this is shaping up to be a really slow year for blockbusters. (It's also factoring into why the episode drops of The Chosen are doing so well at the box office.)
Animaniac93-98
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Tony the Tigger
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I am just not into Dune. Based on comparisons to Star Wars (what?!) I chose the very long and tedious book for a book report in junior high. It was the only time I ever bought the cliff’s notes to complete a book report. Spice schmice.
Saw the movie with Sting. (“I will kill him”) and again, meh.
Therefore didn’t bother with the new movies.
Putting Star Wars in the same genre is an insult to Star Wars.
Saw the movie with Sting. (“I will kill him”) and again, meh.
Therefore didn’t bother with the new movies.
Putting Star Wars in the same genre is an insult to Star Wars.
Ghost93
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It just shows how much better a film can look when you have the script perfected before hand and give filmmakers enough time in production and post production to make the film look great. Dune Part 2 cost less than Ant-man and the Wasp Quantumania and the Marvels, yet it looked waaaaaay better.
I think the use of actual sets and on-location shooting also helps. Disney does way too much green screen, blue screen and The Volume nowadays. Dune obviously used those as well, but not to the same extent.
Ghost93
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You shouldn't let the terrible David Lynch movie deter you from seeing the excellent new movies. Also, Star Wars borrowed a lot from Dune.
TP2000
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First pass at Box Office estimate is out for this weekend. Seriously, what the heck is the ongoing deal with Migration?!?
Then comes Poor Things at #14...
And Wish and All Of Us Strangers in the mid 20's. Look at data for Wish, then look at data for Migration. Huh?!?
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www.the-numbers.com
Then comes Poor Things at #14...
And Wish and All Of Us Strangers in the mid 20's. Look at data for Wish, then look at data for Migration. Huh?!?
The Numbers - Weekend Box Office Chart for August 2, 2024
Weekend Domestic Box Office Chart for the weekend of August 2, 2024
www.the-numbers.com
B.O. Boys puts the Migration situation as "The rats need their cheese" - there hasn't been a new family picture since that movie, after all; there is always a market for at least one or two such films. This is how Puss in Boots: The Last Wish lasted so long theatrically last year, and how Elemental kept plugging away in the summer. Heck, look at those Wonka numbers, coming in days after it was released on Blu-Ray! (The streaming release is this Wednesday.) I'm sure a lot of these screens are only running them as matinee titles, but that's enough. As for Wish, it is a whole month older than Migration so it's not surprising its theater count shrank as much as it did. The multiplexes don't need three family titles right now, two will do. I'm pretty sure Migration and Wonka will lose a bunch of screens this coming weekend with Kung Fu Panda 4 arriving to pick up the baton.
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