I agree… I am very interested to see what Poor Things does internationally this weekend with it opening in the UK
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Animaniac93-98
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Soul had a per theater average of $92 yesterday. That's not a typo.
I think it was a mistake to chose this movie over other potential Disney re-releases.
I think it was a mistake to chose this movie over other potential Disney re-releases.
Tha Realest
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“That’s $92/screen that they didn’t make three years ago - every little bit helps as it inches towards profitability!”
HoustonHorn
Premium Member
ummmmmmmmm........
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
And? I never claimed any specific performance good or bad, I even said I’m not making any predictions. All I said is you’d be surprised how well rereleases can do. As there have been many successful rereleases in the past, such as the ones I and others named.
TalkingHead
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Crazy thing is they shelled out some on marketing because there’s a large Soul standee at AMC. Wonder if the sent those to theaters outside of LA and Orlando.
No attempt to sweeten the deal by releasing with a new short or anything. Or do a double feature program with Soul and Inside Out, like they’ve done with Toy Story before. Advertises for the summer sequel and adds a little value to the ticket.
Animaniac93-98
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I expect Luca and Turning Red to do slightly better, but I never understood the reasoning behind these movies selected for reissue beyond maybe making some Pixar employees feel better about these titles getting nation wide theatrical releases.
I’m giving up hope for Wish. I guess Wish won’t do well on DisneyPlus. And I bet it won’t do well digitally and won’t do well on physical media either. I guess Disney Animation and Pixar are in jeopardy if they don’t shape up. I guess Wish will be forgotten as Black Cauldron and Strange World. I still love the movie, but life is so unfair! Great! Now I’m being negative like you guys, which is sad for me!
And I guess you guys like it because you guys hated Disney!
And I guess you guys like it because you guys hated Disney!
Disney Irish
Premium Member
The only thing that is important is if you liked the movie or not. And since you did then the rest doesn't matter and shouldn't be any worry for you. So just concentrate on that.I’m giving up hope for Wish. I guess Wish won’t do well on DisneyPlus. And I bet it won’t do well digitally and won’t do well on physical media either. I guess Disney Animation and Pixar are in jeopardy if they don’t shape up. I guess Wish will be forgotten as Black Cauldron and Strange World. I still love the movie, but life is so unfair! Great! Now I’m being negative like you guys, which is sad for me!
Wish will perform however it does on Disney+. I suspect it'll get a couple weeks where its watch by those that didn't see it in theaters, as has been the case for most Disney movies the last couple years. After that it'll be there in the Disney catalog just like every other Disney animated movie.
Animaniac93-98
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More from Deadline:
"Disney’s rer-elease of Pixar’s Soul at 1,350 theaters, a movie that’s been on Disney+ since December 2020, is yielding empty auditoriums after a $125K Friday and expected 4-day of $516K. The movie’s previous overseas release from then is currently $121M."
and congrats to Godzilla Minus One:
"Shoutout to Toho’s Godzilla Minus One, which has just crossed $50M at the domestic box office, making it the highest-grossing Japanese language live action or animated movie ever released in the U.S./Canada. Godzilla Minus One is currently the fifth-highest grossing non-English language film at the domestic B.O."
"Disney’s rer-elease of Pixar’s Soul at 1,350 theaters, a movie that’s been on Disney+ since December 2020, is yielding empty auditoriums after a $125K Friday and expected 4-day of $516K. The movie’s previous overseas release from then is currently $121M."
and congrats to Godzilla Minus One:
"Shoutout to Toho’s Godzilla Minus One, which has just crossed $50M at the domestic box office, making it the highest-grossing Japanese language live action or animated movie ever released in the U.S./Canada. Godzilla Minus One is currently the fifth-highest grossing non-English language film at the domestic B.O."
HoustonHorn
Premium Member
No. I made a sarcastic post about releasing old films into theatres. You decided to respond. You didn't have to,, but you did.
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
Disney did well with re-issues of Hocus Pocus and Nightmare Before Christmas this past October, so re-releases can do well if the title selected and timing of the release is done correctly.
Both of the above movies were celebrating their 30th anniversaries, were released in time for Halloween (the holiday they are closely associated with) and have a cult following that has shown a sustained interest over time.
Soul was a straight to streaming title from 3 years ago that has no cultural cache, seasonal significance or anything to make it stand out more than other recent Disney+ movies that have not been in wide theatrical release yet. There was also no clear call to action or urgency to see this movie now and pay extra to do so. As @TalkingHead suggested, there needed to be something to sweeten the deal, or IMO they just should have picked a different movie.
My choice for January 2024? Sleeping Beauty in 70mm where locations are equipped to do so. Disney is releasing at least some merch for the film's 65th anniversary this month and it would have been a chance to play to the old fashioned cinema enthusiast or film school student market that likes seeing the old classics on large format stock. Have an intro from the Disney archives or something too.
Both of the above movies were celebrating their 30th anniversaries, were released in time for Halloween (the holiday they are closely associated with) and have a cult following that has shown a sustained interest over time.
Soul was a straight to streaming title from 3 years ago that has no cultural cache, seasonal significance or anything to make it stand out more than other recent Disney+ movies that have not been in wide theatrical release yet. There was also no clear call to action or urgency to see this movie now and pay extra to do so. As @TalkingHead suggested, there needed to be something to sweeten the deal, or IMO they just should have picked a different movie.
My choice for January 2024? Sleeping Beauty in 70mm where locations are equipped to do so. Disney is releasing at least some merch for the film's 65th anniversary this month and it would have been a chance to play to the old fashioned cinema enthusiast or film school student market that likes seeing the old classics on large format stock. Have an intro from the Disney archives or something too.
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
I agree it could have done better had there been some lead-in such a new short or a double feature or something.
brideck
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Yeah, I thought this was an odd choice for them to lead the series off with, and then I realized that some cynic in marketing probably thought, "Let's put out the one with the black lead for MLK weekend. That's the ticket."
It's a shame because with Wish and Trolls basically gone and Migration starting to really taper down (will it even crack $100 million? -- new IPs remain hard), there should be some business to be had right now... but they put out a movie that doesn't skew particularly young.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
If Soul made $512K I wonder what Turning Red will pull…
TalkingHead
Well-Known Member
AMC Disney Springs needs to reevaluate their programming schedule. This weekend they’re showing Iron Claw once a day at 11:30am. This despite the fact it’s playing to 75-80% full theaters.
The only afternoon time for All of Us Strangers is open captions, which would turn off some people. The three other times are 4:00 and later.
At some point even the audiences who want to see these kinds of movies will balk at the hassle and say they’ll wait for streaming.
So when citing box office numbers as this thread is wont to do, realize there’s an element of scheduling at the multiplex that plays a part in which movies make money.
The only afternoon time for All of Us Strangers is open captions, which would turn off some people. The three other times are 4:00 and later.
At some point even the audiences who want to see these kinds of movies will balk at the hassle and say they’ll wait for streaming.
So when citing box office numbers as this thread is wont to do, realize there’s an element of scheduling at the multiplex that plays a part in which movies make money.
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erasure fan1
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If I had to guess, I'd say Luca yes, turning red not so much. I think Luca is by far the best of the 3.
I completely agree. We talk a lot about box office and why it's important. But when all is said and done, like what you like.
Animaniac93-98
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I was thinking the same thing. If true, that's a poor read on their part considering the criticisms leveled against Soul for being yet another animated movie that turns its black lead into something else for most of its run time.
I think it will. It's over $80 million now. Trolls 3 took a long time to get there, but made it in the end.
Animaniac93-98
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I've noticed a lot of these adult leaning movies will have three shows a day, morning, mid-late afternoon and late at night.
If you work 9-5, that's not really practical.
brideck
Well-Known Member
Yeah, this is the one that surprised me in my market, too. They had to make room for so much new stuff this week that even movies that are holding well and showing good per-screen averages got cut way back. The Iron Claw had a full screen at 5 of the 6 AMCs here last weekend and now has 5 screenings a day total this weekend between all of them. Hopefully movies like that will be able to get some screens back as things like Night Swim crash through the system.