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Disney and Jon Favreau Joining Forces on “The Lion King”

Disney Analyst

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57% on Rotten Tomatoes. I feel like Disney is in a rough patch right now... People are really starting to be over the remakes, Galaxy's Edge barely moved the needle at Disneyland... I'm feeling disheartened for the first time in my Disney fan career.
 
I think part of the problem with some of these recent remakes is that they're fighting an uphill battle against the sheer strength of the originals. It's one thing to re-adapt 50+ year old films like Cinderella, Alice, Sleeping Beauty, and Jungle Book, which, for all their positives, do feel a bit creaky and ripe for a reevaluation or new perspective. But redoing the best films from the Renaissance period? That was bound to be risky from the start. The originals still feel contemporary and are so structurally sound and beautifully crafted, I don't see how you can possibly improve upon them without veering into superfluity (i.e. time-traveling, plague epidemics, and the Napoleonic Wars in 2017's Beauty and the Beast). I wish Disney had shown a touch more delicacy in picking and choosing which films of their oeuvre to re-adapt. The good news is it sounds like the upcoming Mulan and Hunchback remakes will deviate more from their parent films in a good way. Of all the 90s Disney films, they're probably the two best suited for the remake treatment anyway.
 

Magenta Panther

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I'm sure it will make over a bil. Not interested in seeing it though.
Same here. I admit that the live-action The Jungle Book surprised me. Very good. But the trailers for this live-action Lion King make me think of a talking-animal David Attenborough nature documentary. Somehow that doesn't interest me. So yeah, pass.
 

Animaniac93-98

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I feel like Disney was banking on high praise for this one, or else they would have kept the embargo up until the Wednesday before, like Aladdin.

Negative pre-release word of mouth could hurt its opening weekend, although many tickets have already been sold.
 

Princess Leia

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I feel like Disney was banking on high praise for this one, or else they would have kept the embargo up until the Wednesday before, like Aladdin.

Negative pre-release word of mouth could hurt its opening weekend, although many tickets have already been sold.
That didn’t hurt Aladdin.

Whenever I tell someone that I’m not seeing this one in theaters, they express shock. But from the start, I have had zero interest seeing it. I’ll just pull out my Lion King blu-ray next weekend instead, or finally go see Far From Home
 
$1 billion would be disappointing. This was poised to get close to $2 billion. $700 million domestic was all but certain while $650 million was absolutely certain. The reviews are devastating. I would have thought that 70's or 80's on RT would be expected if the movie didn't hit all cylinders. But 57%? With 8 days still to go? Even Aladdin was hovering around 60% for a few days.

Strong messages have been sent by critics about the live-action remakes.
 

Mike S

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That didn’t hurt Aladdin.

Whenever I tell someone that I’m not seeing this one in theaters, they express shock. But from the start, I have had zero interest seeing it. I’ll just pull out my Lion King blu-ray next weekend instead, or finally go see Far From Home
Far From Home was great. Hopefully the credits scene hasn’t been spoiled for you. It’s amazing :happy:
 
Ah but Aladdin and TLK are different in terms of pre-RT. Aladdin was destroyed on social media. It was cinematic catastrophe with little to no positive feelings. Between Guy Ritchie, Will Blue Nightmare, the horrid Prince Ali clip, stale acting, blue shine on the desert, etc., it was clobbered left and right. It was expected to be in the cellar in terms of ratings-maybe 40's, 30's, or even 20's. We're talking Ritchie's King Arthur or even Justice League/Dawn of Justice levels. But every single criticism, when put in context with the movie, was met with a different reaction. The reviews came out as "not great but better than we expected". In other words, the criticisms didn't match the actual reviews of the films and even reviewers who gave it low scores didn't do so because of ANY of the problems cited by social media for several months.

For TLK, it seems to be polar opposite. Non-stop positive vibes. People who saw parts of it in test screenings acted like it was the second coming. People blew off the lack of animal expression as being just holding back. This movie had all the hype and positive vibes and, after Aladdin's critical rating but doing well at the box office, TLK was expected to be absolutely ridiculously amazing. So.....this 57% is MUCH more of a shock than Aladdin's which was expected.
 

MisterPenguin

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$1 billion would be disappointing. This was poised to get close to $2 billion. $700 million domestic was all but certain while $650 million was absolutely certain. The reviews are devastating. I would have thought that 70's or 80's on RT would be expected if the movie didn't hit all cylinders. But 57%? With 8 days still to go? Even Aladdin was hovering around 60% for a few days.

Strong messages have been sent by critics about the live-action remakes.
The Jungle Book got excellent reviews.

Pete's Dragon and Cinderella got good reviews.

BatB got OK reviews.

Alice in Wonderland and Maleficent weren't really remakes as they were reimaginings. They got poor to middling critical reviews.

Dumbo and Aladdin got bad reviews.

However, among audiences, the lowest review was for Dumbo with fair scores, and the rest only go up from there, with Aladdin, BatB, and Jungle Book getting excellent reviews.

Pete's Dragon and Dumbo were the only ones that didn't turn a profit in the theatrical window.

So, we've seen poor reviews from critics with the movie still getting high marks from audiences and making a big profit (and solidifying the brand). [BTW, Venom and Aquaman are in this same boat.] We'll see if TLK is also in this category or not.

But, this is not a message to Disney if the critical reviews for remakes wind up to be both positive and negative at times. And it is not a message Disney will take to heart if audiences keep making them profitable.

IOW, the live remake train is absolutely in no danger of derailment.
 
The question is whether this film is critic-proof like Aladdin was. But Aladdin had charm and spunk.

Not sure why Favreau couldn't get the same emotion for TLK that he had in TLB in characters like Shere-Kahn, Louie, and Baloo. Heck, for that matter, Aslan had more emotion in 2005 than I have seen in the TLK promos. Please tell me it's at LEAST better than that!
 
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