Disney After Hours BOO BASH

Animaniac93-98

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I disagree because the After Hours events are an existing and established offering.

So has MNSSHP for the last 25 years.

As has been said repeatedly, the comparisons are inevitable. It's a similar offering at the same time of year using the same materials.

That you don't like or don't want others to make that comparison is not the fault of those doing so.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
I disagree because the After Hours events are an existing and established offering.

We know what they are. We know what they have provided to guests in the past. They added some things this year for guests missing the Halloween party, but nothing about the event name or description states that these are a Halloween party.

They didn't downgrade MNSSHP, that event isn't happening this year due to COVID (at least in part).

Some people may have expected AABB to be similar, and perhaps Disney was a little bit willing to let people assume that's what this was, but you know what they say about assuming. If a guest bought a ticket to an After Hours event and expected a full Halloween party, that's on them.
I mean, “Boo Bash” is literally a way of saying “Halloween Party.” It’s a downgraded party, and the name shows it was marketed as such. The After Hours distinction is too-cute-by-half PR semantic hairsplitting.

Out of curiosity, what was the first After Hours?
 

disneygeek90

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Hence the photos of people lining up for a cavalcade. To me, that's not the point of an AH event. That's something I might stop and watch for a few minutes if I happen to be passing by, but if you're lining up for that instead of going on attractions, you may have missed the intent of an AH event.
I guess this is the part I struggle with. For the die hard fans, many have probably been on space mountain dozens and even hundreds of times. For someone like myself, I don’t particularly have any interest in paying $200 so I can have short lines for a few hours.

Seeing characters and different experiences and things I can’t see every day are where the value is for me. It’s the same reason that when I’m at HHN I’m not interested in going on Gringotts, even if it’s a 10 minute wait. I value the limited and special offerings more than saving time in a standard attraction. It’s why I happily dropped hundreds for HHN this year and something like Boo Bash doesn’t interest me in the slightest.

Totally understand it may be worth it for people that don’t visit as often and this is coming from a locals perspective.
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
So has MNSSHP for the last 25 years.

As has been said repeatedly, the comparisons are inevitable. It's a similar offering at the same time of year using the same materials.

That you don't like or don't want others to make that comparison is not the fault of those doing so.

It's one thing to compare them from the perspective of being disappointed that the Halloween parties were cancelled this year and that one doesn't care for the Halloween plussed After Hours events.

It's another to claim that this represents a downgraded Halloween party when it is a unique event with an established premise.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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What I take from this party bash whatever you want to call it, is for all the complaining about paid FP they have no issue doing it for this. Technically you are paying for shorter wait times, which is pretty much paid FP

Good point. We see $15 Fastpasses in Paris and think, that's insane, no one will pay that! Clearly, people will. I wonder what the cost per ride works out to at an AH event.
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
I guess this is the part I struggle with. For the die hard fans, many have probably been on space mountain dozens and even hundreds of times. For someone like myself, I don’t particularly have any interest in paying $200 so I can have short lines for a few hours.

Seeing characters and different experiences and things I can’t see every day are where the value is for me. It’s the same reason that when I’m at HHN I’m not interested in going on Gringotts, even if it’s a 10 minute wait. I value the limited and special offerings more than saving time in a standard attraction. It’s why I happily dropped hundreds for HHN this year and something like Boo Bash doesn’t interest me in the slightest.

Totally understand it may be worth it for people that don’t visit as often and this is coming from a locals perspective.

It's pretty simple in your case though. If you value special decorations and characters and what not, this event isn't for you. It's for the people who want to go on a bunch of rides.

The problem is people not doing their research, thinking this event is something it's not, and then complaining it didn't meet their expectations.
 

disneygeek90

Well-Known Member
It's pretty simple in your case though. If you value special decorations and characters and what not, this event isn't for you. It's for the people who want to go on a bunch of rides.

The problem is people not doing their research, thinking this event is something it's not, and then complaining it didn't meet their expectations.
I like going on rides as much as anyone, it’s just meh when there’s little difference than a normal day that’s included in your day ticket.

Obviously low crowds are great, the value of what they’re charging just seems way off.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
We know what they are. We know what they have provided to guests in the past. They added some things this year for guests missing the Halloween party, but nothing about the event name or description states that these are a Halloween party.

Except running with the same theme...
in the same time slots...
and being the trick n treat event for the year.

It's the party replacement for this year... accept the reality. The people that normally visit for this time of year for their halloween park fix will look to this event for that same fix. And they will come up short... with the takeaways about what was missing, while remembering the great things about crowds.

You can't take something away, put something else that looks ALOT ALIKE in the very same spot and then deny people are gonna compare.
 

dreday3

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I wonder what Boo Bash will be like in October...they are supposed to integrate the 50th decorations somehow. Maybe more treats? Maybe more merch?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I disagree because the After Hours events are an existing and established offering.

We know what they are. We know what they have provided to guests in the past. They added some things this year for guests missing the Halloween party, but nothing about the event name or description states that these are a Halloween party.

They didn't downgrade MNSSHP, that event isn't happening this year due to COVID (at least in part).

Some people may have expected AABB to be similar, and perhaps Disney was a little bit willing to let people assume that's what this was, but you know what they say about assuming. If a guest bought a ticket to an After Hours event and expected a full Halloween party, that's on them.
So an a 3 hour Eride with candy at $130-$200 a pop?

…or are we doing the “not calling it what it is” thang today?
 

WDWTrojan

Well-Known Member
I mean, “Boo Bash” is literally a way of saying “Halloween Party.” It’s a downgraded party, and the name shows it was marketed as such. The After Hours distinction is too-cute-by-half PR semantic hairsplitting.

Out of curiosity, what was the first After Hours?

The comparisons are inevitable. However, they are specifically using the Disney After Hours brand because it was a known, established quantity prior to COVID.

DAH started in late 2018 as a way to offer a very limited # of people access to the top attractions for three hours, while throwing in some free sodas, popcorn and mickey bars. I believe they had them at all parks except Epcot. Personally I attended all of them and found the MK one to be a crappy value (mostly because they let too many people in and most rides 20-30 minute waits, which is obviously smaller than normal waits but it was really sold as a "walk on" type event), but the others to be an excellent value.

Mercifully they fixed one of the big issues with the DAH events with Boo Bash. Previously the events started the minute the park closed. This was terrible as most attractions would still have long waits full of day guests, so it really ate into your time. Now there's a 30 minute window before the party officially starts.

As someone else mentioned, they used to have these events but called them "E-Ride Nights," at the Magic Kingdom for resort guests only. It cost an insanely low sum (even for the time), of $14, and just about everything in MK was a total walk-on. However, this was back in the era when the parks were open until 11PM/12AM every night, so the e-ride nights would often go until 2 or 3am.

However the price comparisons to DAH vs E-Ride are not entirely accurate - DAH gives you access into the park you're visiting starting at 7PM. E-Ride nights just extended the hours for you, once you were inside the park. So the fact they're throwing admission for 5 hours definitely adds some value, for those who are not APs
 
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Wendy Pleakley

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Except running with the same theme...
in the same time slots...
and being the trick n treat event for the year.

It's the party replacement for this year... accept the reality. The people that normally visit for this time of year for their halloween park fix will look to this event for that same fix. And they will come up short... with the takeaways about what was missing, while remembering the great things about crowds.

You can't take something away, put something else that looks ALOT ALIKE in the very same spot and then deny people are gonna compare.

If people buy tickets to an After Hours event expecting a Halloween party, of course they'll come up short.

If they buy tickets because they understand this is an attraction focused event, and see value in doing a ton of rides in a short period, they'll be happy.

You can compare anything to anything, doesn't mean it's a valid comparison.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
The comparisons are inevitable. However, they are specifically using the Disney After Hours brand because it was a known, established quantity prior to COVID.

DAH started in late 2018 as a way offer a very limited # of people access to the top attractions for three hours, while throwing in some free sodas, popcorn and mickey bars. I believe they had them at all parks except Epcot. Personally I attended all of them and found the MK one to be a crappy value (mostly because they let too many people in and most rides 20-30 minute waits, which is obviously smaller than normal waits but it was really sold as a "walk on" type event), but the others to be an excellent value.

Mercifully they fixed one of the big issues with the DAH events with Boo Bash. Previously the events started the minute the park closed. This was terrible as most attractions would still have long waits full of day guests, so it really ate into your time. Now there's a 30 minute window before the party officially starts.

As someone else mentioned, they used to have these events but called them "E-Ride Nights," at the Magic Kingdom for resort guests only. It cost an insanely low sum (even for the time), of $14, and just about everything in MK was a total walk-on. However, this was back in the era when the parks were open until 11PM/12AM every night, so the e-ride nights would often go until 2 or 3am.

However the price comparisons to DAH vs E-Ride are not entirely accurate - DAH gives you access into the park you're visiting starting at 7PM. E-Ride nights just extended the hours for you, once you were inside the park. So the fact they're throwing admission for 5 hours definitely adds some value, for those who are not APs
I knew E-Ride Nights. E-Ride Nights were a friend of mine. These, sir, are no E-Ride Nights.

Seriously, this event has about as much in common with E-Ride Nights as the modern Journey into Imagination has with the original.

And the only reason E-Ride Nights look insanely cheap is that a lot of people have lost all sense of value as it relates to Disney. It was a fairly reasonable price for a couple hours in a theme park.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
New Disney Press Release:

“It has come to our attention that some guests feel that the name Boo Bash suggests the related event will be a Halloween party. Some have even suggested that the use of Boo gestures deceptively towards the Boo to You parade and it’s oft repeated chorus, not present at the event. Nothing could be further from the truth.

“In this time of international crisis and distress, this event was intended as a counter to the negativity rampant throughout society. It was intended to forcefully strike against and tamp down - to “Bash” - the “Boos” - a guttural exclamation associated with dissatisfaction or even a component of “boo-hoo,” a child’s cry of sorrow. We feel the events title clearly and unmistakably conveys this message.

“We apologize if some were unable to divine our intent, becoming preoccupied with a tortured, archaic interpretation of Boo Bash. We hope this clears up any misconceptions and we invite all guests to attend December’s Merry Party, our attempt to create a group - or party - of happy guests and in no way associated with any seasonal celebration or previous event at Walt Disney World.”
 

dreday3

Well-Known Member
I'm willing to bet half the people on here complaining about Boo Bash for whatever reason probably also complained about the parties being money grabs, etc., ... 😂

To those who truly miss the Halloween Party (we went to 2, loved them), I truly don't believe they are over. I think this year is a combo of covid and the start of the 50th.
 

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