Disney acquires rights to 'Indiana Jones' Franchise. The implications for WDW?

Bairstow

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What does all this have to do with Indiana Jones? I am totally lost.

Lucasfilm owned Indiana Jones.
Paramount owned the distribution rights to the Indiana Jones movies.
Disney has been licensing the exclusive theme park rights to Indiana Jones for many, many years.
Disney bought Lucasfilm last year, which meant they owned all the Indiana Jones rights that Lucasfilm did.
This week, Disney also got Paramount's distribution rights to any new Indiana Jones films, in return for a cut of the profits.

Will this make Disney more likely to build/expand more Indiana Jones rides in their parks?
Probably not, unless they chose to produce a new movie and it proves more successful than the last one.

Will this make Disney more likely to produce a new Indiana Jones movie?
Maybe.
 

Beholder

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This thread was geeked up from the first post. But it has devolved into total geekdom. I don't think it can be geeked any further unless someone brings up Dr. Who. Ooops.

I could see them doing movies with The Thing and <fill in the blank> or something along those lines. But first, they need to raise awareness of some of these characters with a great FF reboot. If the FF reboot is lackluster, you're really back to just the X-Men franchise.



I get the impression you have a rooting interest against Fox. Am I wrong?

I'm not sure about who Fox does or doesn't have under the agreement. I can't really see them doing a Ka-Zar movie anyway. I would imagine most of the X-characters that fall oustide their rights are too obscure to matter. I remember someone talking about a Cable movie at some point. But I can't remember if it was Fox or some other studio. Regardless, they have enough characters that the minor ones who may not be included shouldn't be an issue.

Anyone know where the Inhumans stand?

What's to buy about having the X-Men fight Dr. Doom? Seems like a no-brainer to me. I would imagine if Galactus came into play, it would be the FF and X-Men teamed up. Again, nothing really to buy.

Beyond them, the FF don't have a lot of bad guys worth crossing over. And the X-Men have a pretty impressive list of bad guys too. So not a lot of point pitting the X-Men against minor FF characters.

Bottom line: Fox has options. There are lots of things they could potentially do. But it's all going to hinge on execution. Before the first Iron Man movie, he was considered a C-lister. Now he's one of the most popular super heroes around. To a lesser extent, the same goes for Thor and Cap. Fox needs to make movies that make people feel the same way about the FF and X-Men (who aren't Wolverine). If they can do that, the sky is the limit. If not, they will not duplicate Marvel's success.

I think to most people Kazar would come across as a Tarzan ripoff. Dr. Strange, Black Panther and Ms. Marvel have potential if handled correctly. Vision and the Scarlet Witch, there's the ultimate Avengers/X-Men movie I'd love to see.

FF could be a very good movie. Great characters, great villains, but because of the "science" inherent in most FF stories, it has to find a good balance between cerebral and the fact it is a "Super-hero" movie. Lose some of the "cheese".
 

lebeau

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What does all this have to do with Indiana Jones? I am totally lost.

I was referring to all the talk about the Fabulous Four and Avengers....

Well, nothing obviously. the conversation drifted as conversations tend to do when there is nothing left to say about the original topic.

If you still want to discuss Indy, you could maybe post something about the topic instead of commenting on and contributing to the thread drift...

I think to most people Kazar would come across as a Tarzan ripoff. Dr. Strange, Black Panther and Ms. Marvel have potential if handled correctly. Vision and the Scarlet Witch, there's the ultimate Avengers/X-Men movie I'd love to see.

FF could be a very good movie. Great characters, great villains, but because of the "science" inherent in most FF stories, it has to find a good balance between cerebral and the fact it is a "Super-hero" movie. Lose some of the "cheese".

I agree. Especially about Kazar coming off like a Tarzan rip-off if they ever made a movie.

Studios seem to be averse to female super heroes which is amazing given how successful super hero movies are these days. You would think someone would see the untapped market and make a movie starring a female character. That someone should be Warner Bros and that character should be Wonder Woman. But I suspect Marvel will eventually beat them to the punch. How do we not yet have a Black Widow movie? She's been a supporting character in three films now counting Cap 2.

Supposedly, Marvel has plans for Doc Strange and maybe Black Panther in the third wave of Avengers movies. You can take everything I said about female super heroes and apply it to minority characters as well. Scarlet Witch will appear in Avengers 2.

The peculiarities of other licensing deals involving Disney owned properties.

Thread drift when there is no Disney World news worth discussing? Inconceivable! Apparently @Bocabear hasn't read the majority fo the threads here.
 

celluloid

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MiB 3 did an excellent job of the 60s actually lol. I actually truly enjoyed the last Men In Black... I bring this up because there could still be a solid plot in the 60s setting. However, this is Hollywood they could just do whatever they want haha.

I loved MIB 3 too. (A lot more than the lackluster MIB 2) And it had a great story and did handle the 60s well. That being said. The big difference is MIB is a different atmosphere and the biggest year difference between the MIB and MIB 3 is ten years. Indy is a lot further apart.

Even more since there is not even production of the next Indy going on now.

I love Indiana Jones more than I do Star Wars. The first three movies are a lot of fun. But the fourth killed a lot of the fun for many, and even if we ignore that. Harrison coming back for a 5th or more at this age, is not the same Indy.
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
I loved MIB 3 too. (A lot more than the lackluster MIB 2) And it had a great story and did handle the 60s well. That being said. The big difference is MIB is a different atmosphere and the biggest year difference between the MIB and MIB 3 is ten years. Indy is a lot further apart.

Even more since there is not even production of the next Indy going on now.

I love Indiana Jones more than I do Star Wars. The first three movies are a lot of fun. But the fourth killed a lot of the fun for many, and even if we ignore that. Harrison coming back for a 5th or more at this age, is not the same Indy.

It's still Hollywood, they can figure out something that works. I mean Harrison looks good, he isn't like Tommy Lee Jones in MIB3. Lol
 

celluloid

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Tommy Lee Jones also was not the one on an adventure in MIB 3.

Sure, writing can try anything, but just writing can't make anything just work well.
 

doctornick

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Again, I've heard that time is running out on FF. Apparently, they have to start production by sometime before the end of 2014 or they lose the rights.

I hope Fox loses the rights. I think the FF would be so easy to effectively join in to the active Marvel Cinematic Universe. As has already been stated in this thread, X-Men and the FF don't really cross over very well. But there has been a lot of crossover between the Avengers and FF in the comics and they are similar types of groups.

And I'd just like to see the FF handled in a far better fashion than Fox did with the first two films. I know that's not dependent on the studio, but Disney has done such a fantastic job with Marvel that I just trust them more to come up with a great execution for a FF reboot than Fox.
 
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Matt_Black

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And I'd just like to see the FF handled in a far better fashion than Fox did with the first two films. I know that's not dependent on the studio, but Disney has done such a fantastic job with Marvel that I just trust them more to come up with a great execution for a FF reboot than Fox.

Well, it's more like Disney has just let Marvel keep doing what they've been doing, but yeah, no one's been dropping the ball when it comes to films. Now, we'll see if that continues to be successful with the less-famous characters' movies, such as Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, and the rumored films for Phase 3.
 

doctornick

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Well, it's more like Disney has just let Marvel keep doing what they've been doing, but yeah, no one's been dropping the ball when it comes to films. Now, we'll see if that continues to be successful with the less-famous characters' movies, such as Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, and the rumored films for Phase 3.

The thing is that Iron Man and Thor were less famous characters and the films have changed that. While students of Norse mythology might have heard of Loki, he's now a known Marvel villain among the general public. Or Nick Fury/SHIELD. I agree that it will be an interesting challenge going forward to see if other lesser known characters will be able to enter public consciousness, but the folks at Marvel Studios have earned the benefit of the doubt at this point IMHO. They've certainly done a better job than Fox has done in developing the same universe of heroes and I guess I was so disappointed with the previous FF ventures by Fox that I'd like to see Disney/Marvel try their hand at that group. The Thing and Human Torch really seem perfect for the humor aspects that have pervaded the Marvel films and it would be easy to do tie-ins with The Avengers.
 

Matt_Black

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The thing is that Iron Man and Thor were less famous characters and the films have changed that. While students of Norse mythology might have heard of Loki, he's now a known Marvel villain among the general public. Or Nick Fury/SHIELD. I agree that it will be an interesting challenge going forward to see if other lesser known characters will be able to enter public consciousness, but the folks at Marvel Studios have earned the benefit of the doubt at this point IMHO. They've certainly done a better job than Fox has done in developing the same universe of heroes and I guess I was so disappointed with the previous FF ventures by Fox that I'd like to see Disney/Marvel try their hand at that group. The Thing and Human Torch really seem perfect for the humor aspects that have pervaded the Marvel films and it would be easy to do tie-ins with The Avengers.

Not to mention that with the Marvel movies veering into space stuff with Guardians and Thanos, many of the characters connected to the FF would be a perfect fit for that- Galactus, Silver Surfer, the Skrulls, etc.
 

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