News Disney’s Fiscal Full Year and Q4 2023 Earnings Results Webcast

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Almost everyone is getting dunked on today, there was a hot jobs report released today which is a signal that the Fed either won’t cut interest rates or may even hike them again to combat inflation.
Not really a hot jobs report, per se:

"Fresh data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed that the number of US job openings unexpectedly soared to an estimated 9.61 million open jobs in August. That’s up from July’s upwardly revised estimate of 8.92 million openings and above the consensus 8.8 million estimate among economists."

But more job openings in an already-tight post-Covid labor market? Oy...
 

TheIceBaron

Well-Known Member
So the usual “institutional nonsense”?

Same ole

More like if interest rates are high, cost of borrowing is high, so companies can’t invest as much as they would be if interest rates are low. Therefore growth in all companies will be more stunted. Stocks only go up if investors think the company will grow. If the company doesn’t grow or grows too slowly stock goes red.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Not really a hot jobs report, per se:

"Fresh data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed that the number of US job openings unexpectedly soared to an estimated 9.61 million open jobs in August. That’s up from July’s upwardly revised estimate of 8.92 million openings and above the consensus 8.8 million estimate among economists."

But more job openings in an already-tight post-Covid labor market? Oy...
Ok…yeah…not “good” by any measure

Don’t see how that would trigger a Fed Increase

It’s not new hires from “booming business”…it’s lack of labor..:which means labor will cost more.
 

TheIceBaron

Well-Known Member
Not really a hot jobs report, per se:

"Fresh data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed that the number of US job openings unexpectedly soared to an estimated 9.61 million open jobs in August. That’s up from July’s upwardly revised estimate of 8.92 million openings and above the consensus 8.8 million estimate among economists."

But more job openings in an already-tight post-Covid labor market? Oy...

It’s a hot jobs report according most of the financial media. More job openings mean higher salary and wage offers for new employees, which means higher compensation generally, which means inflation isn’t defeated and the fed will either raise rates or not lower them. This was quite unexpected jobs report which is why it’s a big red day.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
More like if interest rates are high, cost of borrowing is high, so companies can’t invest as much as they would be if interest rates are low. Therefore growth in all companies will be more stunted. Stocks only go up if investors think the company will grow. If the company doesn’t grow or grows too slowly stock goes red.
Yeah…I had all the “core” courses…while still conceding it’s mostly subjective/manipulative
 

Indy_UK

Well-Known Member
Essentially how it will go...

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TheIceBaron

Well-Known Member
Yeah…I had all the “core” courses…while still conceding it’s mostly subjective/manipulative

I do agree it’s a scam that lots of job openings makes the fed want to create a recession. Almost every single time they try to fight inflation they succeed by kneecapping the economy with interest rate measures. Ends up hurting regular working folk to fight inflation, inflation generally hurts the banks not those with the actual debt.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I do agree it’s a scam that lots of job openings makes the fed want to create a recession. Almost every single time they try to fight inflation they succeed by kneecapping the economy with interest rate measures. Ends up hurting regular working folk to fight inflation, inflation generally hurts the banks not those with the actual debt.
The “kingmakers” are always interested in only the kings they create
 

TheIceBaron

Well-Known Member
DJIA down less than 1%

DIS down around 2.4%

Not sure which chart you are looking at but Dow is down by 1.5% atm. Amazon down almost 4%. If you are trying to suggest DIS is abnormally red today that is not the case. Plenty of other firms getting clobbered even worse.
 

TheIceBaron

Well-Known Member
It’s been “abnormally red” consistently for the last 2 years. That’s his point.

…you been traveling? 🤪

lol yeah and my point is you can’t just point to a huge red day for every single company to dunk solely on Disney for its ills. Yeah the two year chart is more compelling but today’s redness for the stock isn’t solely Igers or TWDC’s fault.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
Not sure which chart you are looking at but Dow is down by 1.5% atm. Amazon down almost 4%. If you are trying to suggest DIS is abnormally red today that is not the case. Plenty of other firms getting clobbered even worse.
These numbers fluctuate. That’s what I saw when I posted. Since that time DIS is now down 2.63% on the day; DJIA “only” down now 1.31%. This is a repeated cycle over the last few years where DIS does poorly compared to the rest of the market.
 

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