Disney’s Broken Theme Park Promises & False Advertising

[Goofyernmost]

That's the problem I have with releasing concept art for hype. It continues to backfire. It's why most other parks don't do it. They wait til they have shovels in the ground.

I suppose that's true, but the purpose of promotion is to build up excitement for the park. By now though we should all be able to understand that it probably will not be like the picture on the package.

 

[erasure fan1]

They spent billions on Star Wars Land and yet we are constantly hearing about how Disney hasn't invested in the parks for two decades. Right!

But if you listen to the argument, it's not that they haven't invested. They haven't added capacity.

By now though we should all be able to understand that it probably will not be like the picture on the package.

While I agree. That isn't really a good argument for people being critical of them. Disney said, "a land full of free roaming droids". If you set an expectation, and you don't hit it, that's on you. Everyone gets that things can change. But when they change and the final product isn't great, they're going to hear about. And that's completely fair in my opinion. The only reason they can't win, is because of how they go about things. You can release concept art and let people know what the "plan" is. All while not continuing to over hype aspects you have no plan on following through with.

 

[Goofyernmost]

But if you listen to the argument, it's not that they haven't invested. They haven't added capacity.

While I agree. That isn't really a good argument for people being critical of them. Disney said, "a land full of free roaming droids". If you set an expectation, and you don't hit it, that's on you. Everyone gets that things can change. But when they change and the final product isn't great, they're going to hear about. And that's completely fair in my opinion. The only reason they can't win, is because of how they go about things. You can release concept art and let people know what the "plan" is. All while not continuing to over hype aspects you have no plan on following through with.

While I understand what you are saying, there are certain things in life that adults should know to expect especially when you are talking about a fantasy. Look what happened to the Yeti? I was a huge promise, it cost more money to build then can even be imagined, it was put in place and it was promoted out the ying-yang, but due to an engineering error it never turned out to be what was suggested it would be and the cost to correct that mistake could better be used on other things. If it really changed anything in the ride, they would have found the money to redesign it, but, and this is speaking from the viewpoint of someone that rode it while it was still working, you flashed by it and if you even blinked during the window of opportunity to see it, you didn't! It was not worth the cost to fix it. It is to bad that it didn't turn out like imagined but it is a prime example that even though the attempt was made to make good on the promise it didn't work. It was not intentional that it didn't work, but that didn't stop it from being inoperable. Things unseen can change the plan at any stage of the build and concept art is the very first part of any build. The art work is infallible. Everything works in the artwork then reality sets in and bites it in the butt. Like I said the best laid plans of mice and men are not always doable.

They did add capacity just in the wrong places. MK is the biggest guilty party in the capacity scenario but just like the complaints about Tron being in the wrong park, when capacity is added people find a loophole that still makes it wrong. Even things like Star Wars Land and Toy Story Land in DHS added capacity, but all it really did was draw crowds to the only two or three attractions worth seeing. So they added capacity but what they added was pretty much DHS's only draw attraction, there is nothing else there to see so the crowds gather in those spots like water runs downhill.

 

[Jrb1979]

While I understand what you are saying, there are certain things in life that adults should know to expect especially when you are talking about a fantasy. Look what happened to the Yeti? I was a huge promise, it cost more money to build then can even be imagined, it was put in place and it was promoted out the ying-yang, but due to an engineering error it never turned out to be what was suggested it would be and the cost to correct that mistake could better be used on other things. If it really changed anything in the ride, they would have found the money to redesign it, but, and this is speaking from the viewpoint of someone that rode it while it was still working, you flashed by it and if you even blinked during the window of opportunity to see it, you didn't! It was not worth the cost to fix it. It is to bad that it didn't turn out like imagined but it is a prime example that even though the attempt was made to make good on the promise it didn't work. It was not intentional that it didn't work, but that didn't stop it from being inoperable. Things unseen can change the plan at any stage of the build and concept art is the very first part of any build. The art work is infallible. Everything works in the artwork then reality sets in and bites it in the butt. Like I said the best laid plans of mice and men are not always doable.

They did add capacity just in the wrong places. MK is the biggest guilty party in the capacity scenario but just like the complaints about Tron being in the wrong park, when capacity is added people find a loophole that still makes it wrong. Even things like Star Wars Land and Toy Story Land in DHS added capacity, but all it really did was draw crowds to the only two or three attractions worth seeing. So they added capacity but what they added was pretty much DHS's only draw attraction, there is nothing else there to see so the crowds gather in those spots like water runs downhill.

Again the simple answer is stop releasing concept art and don't announce things til plans are fully in place and shovels in the ground.

As far as capacity goes there isn't enough outside of MK. A good example is Cedar Point, they have over 70 rides and attractions in one park and still have capacity issues. Then you have WDW who have 48 rides and attractions over 4 parks. Each park should have 50 rides and attractions each.

 

[erasure fan1]

It was not worth the cost to fix it. It is to bad that it didn't turn out like imagined but it is a prime example that even though the attempt was made to make good on the promise it didn't work. It was not intentional that it didn't work, but that didn't stop it from being inoperable.

I really disagree with this. It is very worth fixing it. While I do believe they bit off more than they could chew with the yeti. What makes people mad, is not that it wasn't as promised when hey promoted and hyped up the ride. I was there the first summer and it was every bit as advertised in my opinion. What has made everyone the most upset in my opinion, is that it has been this long and the best Disney imagineering can muster is a strobe light? Come on now. Everyone gets it is not cost effective to bring it back to the original state. But they can definitely do better than what's there now.

They did add capacity just in the wrong places. MK is the biggest guilty party in the capacity scenario but just like the complaints about Tron being in the wrong park, when capacity is added people find a loophole that still makes it wrong.

They haven't added capacity yet. Once splash reopens, if everything stays open, tron is the first capacity increase in decades. There isn't a loophole anywhere. I did the math a while ago in another thread where someone was saying they have increased capacity. I'm not going to go through the whole thing again, but it's a pretty sad state of affairs when you break it down.