MagicHappens1971
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Yes.
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DHS Soundstage 1 Renovation - Toy Storia Mania expansion
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Cesar R M
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That took.. how long?
for just one track they took hella long.
The permit was filed on 9/24/2014.
Marlins1
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Yes, of all the lengthy project timelines this and clearing the backlot tour area seem the most ridiculous to me. I would think nine months would have been plenty of time to add a third track.
In a weather proof, pre standing and serviced building with a ready laid perfectly level floor?
bhg469
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They just need to hire my wife. She won't let me stop working for 5 minutes.
If she was in charge of construction we would have 4 full parks and a 5th gate under construction.
JohnWD
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But why? What's the inside scoop? Too long in design? Changes in design? Hardware custom made causing delays? Suppliers going out of business? Lazy people? We can all see it's taking a long time and complain!
All I do know is the track was on site way before it was installed. Way way before.
GoofGoof
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Here's my theory. The extra capacity wasn't really needed until they closed a few more things like LMA. They have slightly higher operating and maintenance costs with the 3rd track which are more than offset by the decrease in costs for the closed attractions. We tend to always focus on budgets for new construction projects, but TDO has to also manage their operations and maintenance budgets. My guess is they didn't want to take on the extra costs when it wasn't 100% needed and they didn't have other cost reductions to offset it.
Goofyernmost
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There could be thousands of reason why they take so long. Most that are mentioned on the boards are probably not it. It might even be a problem with lining up skilled companies to do the work or problems with getting bonded that delay the start. It could be the actual building of the screens that we look at during the ride. It could be many, many reasons and a lot of them might be completely out of Disney control. They might have had 90% of the materials on site early on, but, not the ones that were needed to actually construct it. None of us really know, so why speculate, it will be done when it is done and not a day sooner. Why whine!
Pam Hates Penguins
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I feel bad not knowing this, but due to the third track being built, will that cause the new entrance to Toy Story Mania to come sooner?
No, the third track will open with the existing entrance. Eventually, when TSL is built the entrance will be switched to the back of the building.
Pam Hates Penguins
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Will the new entrance open before TSL opens?
G00fyDad
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Doubtful. There's no reason for them to open up the entrance in the back of the building when there's too much construction that's still going to be taking place.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I didn't really think I was whining. In my post I just said "here's my theory". I thought the whole point of a discussion board was to discuss things and that includes speculating. I never said I knew anything for fact, it was just a theory. All of the above are very possible too. My only point was that just because they could build something faster or open it sooner doesn't mean they will. It all falls into a larger plan which includes not just the capital costs of the project but also the operating and maintenance costs for the park itself.
Pam Hates Penguins
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When the new entrance opens, what will become of Pixar Place, because that is about the only reason people come there. Will it close and become something else? Something similar to a Downtown Disney (Disneyland version) could go there.
It's unknown at this point, but they very well could close it off and turn it into back stage space.
Pam Hates Penguins
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Yeah that's probably what will happen.
Yeah, there really isn't much space there for anything else. Great movie ride is on one side and TSMM is on the other.
Goofyernmost
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I know that I quoted you on that post, and I do that often, I forget to add that when I make statements like that unless I have pointed out a particular thing you said, I'm talking to everyone. I used your post as a jumping off point and that was a general appeal for people to stop whining about something that they have no control over or even know the reasons or have any experience in construction but seem to know how long it should take to build attractions or the details of what is needed to complete the task. Sorry, if that wasn't clear... no direct connection was intended. The only problem I have is the idea that there is any feasible reason to drag their feet to open something that they have a capital output on. It isn't beneficial tax wise or income wise. I just don't buy it. I could see holding off on Frozen to get the super M&G next door ready to open at the same time to have a location for crowds to have a place to go. But, to just generally conclude that there is some strange profit motivation to not open it, is totally counter to the argument that Disney is super greedy.