DHS and Epcot needs more for girls

[Cesar R M]

Then please prove me wrong. Walk into any random WDW shop packed full of mostly girls. Shout out "hey look, an adventure in communication from the dawning of the cavemen to the 21st century!" or shout out "hey look, its Anna and Elsa walking by right now!" You tell me which gets the bigger more excited reaction and I will revoke every word I have said on here.

You could go to animal kingdom and scream. HEY ITS TIMON! and everyone will look..
same with going to Magic Kingdom and scream HEY ITS PETER PAN AND TINKERBELL!

the current point of Anna and Elsa is the current popularity of Frozen.
Pretty sure if The Lion King was released today with all the hype.. they would have all gone to meet the Simba, or the Timon and Pumba animatronics!

 

[Ember]

Wow where to begin. Lets see, there is POTC, Pirates League, BTMR, anything in Tomorrowland, Tom Sawyer Island, HOP, Frontierland, Peter Pan Flight, the list goes on. But am not complaining. MK is more than fairly balanced, and like I mentioned in the OP has invested a lot toward families with girls in new Fantasyland. I just wish other parks would find that balance -key word: balance-

I'm sure this has already been driven into the ground, but I haven't combed through the many pages of this post yet. I am a female, graduating with my Bachelors in Science in two months and my favorite things since I have been going to Disney at the age of 2 are all the above. Peter Pan and Pirates being my most favorite things of all. I love the princesses, but I also LOVE the "boy" stuff.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

And who says girls can't be scientists? Not that I want to be one. But watch the Big Bang Theory.

Mayim Bialik! Real life scientist who also plays one on TV.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Mayim Bialik! Real life scientist who also plays one on TV.

Yep, an actress and a nuerosurgeon at UCLA Medical Center. The woman makes serious bank.

 

[Cesar R M]

Wait wait. We've got....ice powers....sibling rivalry with a kingdom at stake....and a brush with evil, but a shot at redemption.

Hmm....


EDIT -- That awkward moment when you realize that Elsa actually had a better character arc than Anakin Skywalker...

At this point, anything is better than anakyn.. horrible cookie cutter character that had extreme potential.
Let's not mention HAR HAR bings just because they wanted to appeal the little kids.

Yep, an actress and a nuerosurgeon at UCLA Medical Center. The woman makes serious bank.

I can imagine her swimming in her secret room of money

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Yep, an actress and a nuerosurgeon at UCLA Medical Center. The woman makes serious bank.

And now she can add published author to that list! She recently wrote a cook book

 

[englanddg]

And now she can add published author to that list! She recently wrote a cook book

SEE! Finally found her way back to the kitchen.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

SEE! Finally found her way back to the kitchen.

*shakes head*

 

[morningstar]

Then please prove me wrong. Walk into any random WDW shop packed full of mostly girls. Shout out "hey look, an adventure in communication from the dawning of the cavemen to the 21st century!" or shout out "hey look, its Anna and Elsa walking by right now!" You tell me which gets the bigger more excited reaction and I will revoke every word I have said on here.

So, try the same with boys and pirates. Yeah, the boys will be more interested in the pirates, which some exceptions.

However, the important point you are missing is that this is not a problem. The "problem" with Epcot is not that it is not appealing to girls, it is that is not appealing to children (with some exceptions). But, this is not a problem. It might not be their favorite at first, but it is presented in an entertaining enough way that if parents encourage them, children might cultivate an interest in its subjects, and they'll be better off for it.

So, even if you are right about Epcot being more appealing to boys than girls, that just means you should encourage your daughter even more to give Epcot a chance. Sorry you feel attacked. It's not my intent to put you down. I don't suppose you are confiscating your daughter's science books. I just want to suggest that you not only allow her to take an interest in science and math, but in fact encourage it.

 

[FettFan]

SEE! Finally found her way back to the kitchen.

Well, technically, cooking is practical chemistry.


Hmm...think I'm going to go all Walter White on the Keurig. Anyone wanna cup?

 

[cw1982]

Well, technically, cooking is practical chemistry.


Hmm...think I'm going to go all Walter White on the Keurig. Anyone wanna cup?

Lol! I knew there was a reason I suck at cooking. It all makes sense now... I should have tried harder in science!

 

[FettFan]

However, the important point you are missing is that this is not a problem. The "problem" with Epcot is not that it is not appealing to girls, it is that is not appealing to children (with some exceptions). But, this is not a problem. It might not be their favorite at first, but it is presented in an entertaining enough way that if parents encourage them, children might cultivate an interest in its subjects, and they'll be better off for it.

Bingo!

Retiring Remy was a HUGE mistake.

World Showcase needs more characters (not princesses) to make the countries more palatable to children. Unfortunately, country-specific Disney characters are a bit lacking.


So....How about more historical play-actors?

Sure kids can join the Colonial militia at the American Adventure....but how about letting them meet Leonardo DiVinci over at Italy? Or a meet and greet with Queen Elizabeth I at the United Kingdom?

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Well, technically, cooking is practical chemistry.


Hmm...think I'm going to go all Walter White on the Keurig. Anyone wanna cup?

Lol! I knew there was a reason I suck at cooking. It all makes sense now... I should have tried harder in science!

Which is why it was very ironic that my high school chemistry teacher (who is an excellent teacher and was nominated for teacher of the year this year from the entire county...and she's female!) admittedly could not cook.

 

[englanddg]

Well, technically, cooking is practical chemistry.

Hmm...think I'm going to go all Walter White on the Keurig. Anyone wanna cup?

Yep. And while you are making coffee meth, I'm going to ask my woman to get all Marie Curie and make me a sammich!

Oh wait...I live alone.

 

[englanddg]

Which is why it was very ironic that my high school chemistry teacher (who is an excellent teacher and was nominated for teacher of the year this year from the entire county...and she's female!) admittedly could not cook.

It's because it's a science that requires a bit of art, not just pure application.

Follow a recipe exactly, and many times you'll end up failing. You have to have an eye and feel for when things are "right"...something that is the antithesis of applied science (especially chemistry...).

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Yep. And while you are making coffee meth, I'm going to ask my woman to get all Marie Curie and make me a sammich!

Oh wait...I live alone.

And given your posts on the Saget thraed, I think even if you didn't, you'd still be asked to cook at least several times a week!

 

[FettFan]

Lol! I knew there was a reason I suck at cooking. It all makes sense now... I should have tried harder in science!

AH, but there lies the rub...

Cooking = Science + Art

And like any great art...it takes practice and devotion.

 

[englanddg]

And given your posts on the Saget thraed, I think even if you didn't, you'd still be asked to cook at least several times a week!

I'll expound on that though...

Learning to cook well involves not only trial and error (lots and lots of error), but also involves trusting your instincts and senses.

Applied sciences teach you the exact opposite. They teach you that you should not trust your senses.

As a structural engineer, you don't say "well, that beam looks strong enough". You test and examine the metallurgy and design before forming the beam.

Yet, as a chef, you'll make that sort of gut decision all the time.

As a chemist, you don't say "well, lets add another pinch of this, it doesn't seem right", you specifically measure and document what you are doing.

The point is...while at it's core it's chemistry...it's also a far different set of disciplines, and one that can be fundamentally challenging for a highly logical and analytic person.

 

[morningstar]

Bingo!

Retiring Remy was a HUGE mistake.

World Showcase needs more characters (not princesses) to make the countries more palatable to children. Unfortunately, country-specific Disney characters are a bit lacking.

Yeah, Remy seems like a good integration of characters into Epcot. The characters are connected with the education, not just there to keep kids from getting bored. Being able to meet Donald somewhere in Innoventions doesn't stimulate kids interest in science whatsoever. I guess Nemo at the Seas is good in this way too, although I miss the hydrolators.

Once when I was a kid my parents tried to take me to Chefs de France, or whatever it was called at that time. I think I just ate cheese. Maybe if there was a cartoon mouse I might have been a little more adventurous. At least my parents didn't go all Katiebug and insist that they bring out the chicken nuggets.

 

[Robin Of Loxley]

*Walks into discussion to see what's going on.*

*Takes a look around.*

*Backs away slowly & shuts door very quietly.*