Describe California Adventure in a nutshell

Walt Disney1955

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Okay I mentioned in another thread I am going to hit Anaheim for a week in the fall. Obviously I am going to do Disneyland since we have never been there. The comparison to MK will be nice. But if I have one other day to choose a theme park which one should I do?

I plan on staying at our resort and of course checking the other sites of California. So I'll likely have time just for one more theme park. Should it be: Knott's Berry, California Adventure or Universal?

I looked at the map to CA and it seems to be a mixture of rides from DHS, AK and Epcot. Then there are some I have never heard of. Anyways, can anyone fill me in on CA?
 

Wilt Dasney

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I looked at the map to CA and it seems to be a mixture of rides from DHS, AK and Epcot.
You got it. DCA is basically a mishmash (I decided it's something like mixing DHS and the Boardwalk, with a little Wilderness Lodge thrown in :lol:). It's a nice park but you obviously can't go in expecting DL.

California Screamin' is a very fun coaster, the Aladdin show is worth seeing (but I believe it's closing in August), and it's neat to see DL's take on Tower of Terror. The Animation pavilion is worth a good hour or two IMO, and I really, really like Grizzly River Run.

One potential negative is that most of the attractions copied from (or to) WDW are LITERAL copies, because they're screen-based...so you see the same exact Soarin', MuppetVision, Tough to be a Bug and Toy Story Mania as in Florida. It's not like DL where there really is a unique PotC, HM, or Space Mountain to compare or contrast with WDW.

DCA is a quieter place than DL. You can stop and catch your breath in the Blue Sky Lounge or Animation building...and I'm not sure this is really a "plus," but the fact that it has so many fewer attractions than DL means there isn't as much of a need to rush and fit everything in.

Also, DCA is apparently more like DCWA ("Disney's Construction Wall Aventure") these days, so you could find a lot of views obstructed.

One BIG PLUS is that the new World of Color show will be open by your trip. That might make it worth the price of admission!

I know nothing firsthand about USH or Knotts, so I can't offer any help there...but that's my take on DCA.
 

Rufus T Firefly

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The Aladdin stage show, California Screamin and the Monster's Inc dark ride are all well worth your time and attention. I normally would also recommend the Animation Bldg., but I believe it's closed due to all the new construction. If you bring any little ones, Bug's Land is worth checking out too.
 

_Scar

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It's Disney's World of Color nighttime spectacular- and when I say spectacular, I mean it.

It's a water based show with zero live actors- the water is the whole show. It's projection based, but 100x more complex than Fantasmic is.

Here's a preview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfyoqR1lX_Y


Edit- The Aladdin show will probably be the Toy Story Musical when you go, but still you can see Aladdin the Musical on Youtube. It's worth it.
 

sponono88

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World of Color, the park's new nighttime spectacular. When are you visiting DL? The show should be opening within the next few months (no date has been announced yet.)

the park is undergoing a huge expansion, so you might get to see the park while it's undergoing its transition. btw I think this should be moved to the DLR forum :)

Scar, Toy Story the Musical opens next year. Aladdin is set to close on August 15th.

Rufus - the Animation building is open during the construction
 

nemofinder22

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Aladdin-A Musical Spectacular closes on Aug 15 so that a bummer....:(:(:(

Also watch out for the walls since rumor says Buena Vista Street will start in half's this fall. Rumor also says Carsland will start taking over the farm area in Bugs Land(not Flicks Fun Faire) Farm area as in, Farmers Market, PT. Fleas, Bugs Gardens, Tractors, San Andreas Shakes, The fruit cart(which I cant for the life of me remember)

If its Halloween time and your up for a more adult style Halloween consider the Halloween Haunt at Knott's Berry Farm. I believe its a separate ticket event. Its suppose to be really great.

But World of Color!

theres also a whole DL section to WDWMagic:)
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13
 

Krack

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Okay I mentioned in another thread I am going to hit Anaheim for a week in the fall. Obviously I am going to do Disneyland since we have never been there. The comparison to MK will be nice. But if I have one other day to choose a theme park which one should I do?

I plan on staying at our resort and of course checking the other sites of California. So I'll likely have time just for one more theme park. Should it be: Knott's Berry, California Adventure or Universal?

I looked at the map to CA and it seems to be a mixture of rides from DHS, AK and Epcot. Then there are some I have never heard of. Anyways, can anyone fill me in on CA?

Oh man, that's a tough choice. I'd throw Knott's out immediately; for me, the real question would be between DCA and Universal. In my opinion, DCA is, at best, a half day park. If you're gonna pick DCA, I'd do so with the intention of hitting the big rides (Tower of Terror, Grizzly River Run, Soarin', California Screamin', Toy Story Mania and the Muppets), taking a complete walk around the park to soak in the atmosphere and themeing, and then spending the late afternoon and evening back inside Disneyland-proper. When I lived there, the real attraction of DCA for me was always the Electrical Parade, but my understanding is that it won't be there anymore after April. Pretty much everything in DCA can be found in some form in an Orlando park, aside from California Screamin'. The one thing to keep in mind is that it is very, very easy to underestimate the amount of time you want to spend at Disneyland - most people think that because it is smaller, you can experience the park in a shorter amount of time than the Magic Kingdom ... but Disneyland has more rides and attractions, not to mention both the fireworks and Fantasmic to eat into your time. The walk from the entrance of DCA to the entrance of Disneyland is about 50 yards (if that) so it is not much of a burden to park hop if you are so inclined.

On the other hand, Universal is a very unique experience in that, unlike DHS and Universal Orlando, it really is a working studio. When you go on their backlot tour, you are right where they film. It's something impossible to duplicate anywhere else. The Universal rides are all enjoyable, they have good shows - and, generally, I think there's probably more to do there than DCA. However, you need to remember that Universal is out on it's own - you're talking about a minimum hour drive from Anaheim.

If it were me, I'd spend the first day at Disneyland and see if I was able to accomplish everything I wanted to do. That way if you feel you didn't have enough time, you could do DCA/Disneyland on day two. If you felt satisfied with your initial day at Disneyland, you could spend day two at Universal.
 

Laura

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I plan on staying at our resort and of course checking the other sites of California. So I'll likely have time just for one more theme park. Should it be: Knott's Berry, California Adventure or Universal?

Between the 3 of those, it'd be a real close toss-up between Universal and California Adventure. Universal Hollywood is an absolutely spectacular park. In addition to the incredible scenery (you can see for miles, it's built into the side of a mountain), they have a REAL FREIKEN TRAM TOUR! The tram tour is SO long and has so many attractions built right into it. That alone is worth the admission. But then they also have The Mummy, The Simpsons, Jurassic Park, and so on.

California Adventure should be looking pretty darn good by the fall. Right now I wouldn't recommend it because it's mostly just a bunch of walls, but by then they'll have World of Color and a lot of aesthetic changes.

I think I'd give Universal the edge here though, as much as I love DCA.

Knott's Berry Farm - meh. Unless you are a die-hard thrill ride freak, you won't get much out of that place.
 

voodoo321

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It's a nice park. Better than Universal or Knott's. But if you don't need to ride Soarin, TOT(somewhat different), Muppets, Bug's Life, and Toy Story again then try something else. It is cool to experience these rides in a different setting/ and different queues.
The water ride is similar to Kali, under a different theme. Muholland Madness is like Primeval Whirl but better and smoother. There is the Donald's boat that is better than the one in Toontown Fair. The Animation attraction is pretty amazing and very unlike what you experience at DHS. Monsters Inc. is a simple dark ride but unique to this park and there are several fun carnival rides in Paradise Pier and kiddy rides in Bugs Land that are specific to this park(though they are "off the shelf"). CS is a pretty fun steel coaster, themed to look like an old woodie
There is some nice theming and it's usually not very crowded. If this is a one time only trip to California I would go, otherwise wait until the expansion is finished.
 

Rufus T Firefly

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Between the 3 of those, it'd be a real close toss-up between Universal and California Adventure. Universal Hollywood is an absolutely spectacular park. In addition to the incredible scenery (you can see for miles, it's built into the side of a mountain), they have a REAL FREIKEN TRAM TOUR! The tram tour is SO long and has so many attractions built right into it. That alone is worth the admission. But then they also have The Mummy, The Simpsons, Jurassic Park, and so on.

Don't forget Universal's new King Kong attraction. I love Universal too, but IMO a chance to see World of Color would tip the scales to DCA for me.
 

Ziffell

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My honest opinion is that I would put Knott's at the top of the list, followed by DCA as a distant second, and followed by USH as third place, just barely below DCA. Here's my personal take on each one (in preference order):

Knott's
For most of it's history, this park was a small, privately owned, family run theme park. There are still remaining elements of that to this day, even though it is now owned and operated by Cedar Fair. It started out as a berry stand, followed by an extremely successful chicken restaurant. Because the chicken restaurant was so popular, with waits hours long, the owner (Walter Knott) purchased a real California ghost town and had most of the buildings relocated to this spot. This was to give visitors something to do while they waited for their table. Because all of this happened before DL opened, Knott's is billed as "America's first theme park". From the Ghost Town sprang up a full fledged theme park over the decades. The original Ghost Town is still there and is VERY cool. Much more immersive and interesting than Disney's Frontierland. It also includes some classic attractions such as the Timber Mountain Log Ride (which Disney Imagineers used as inspiration for Splash Mountain), and the Calico Mine Train (which evokes memories of the Mine Train Thru Nature's Wonderland that preceded BTMRR). Knott's also has some killer roller coasters such as Ghost Rider (the best wooden roller coaster I've ever ridden) and Xcelerator, which is an awesome launch coaster. It also has Bigfoot Rapids, which is just as good as Grizzly River Run. On top of all that, I actually find the employees at Knott's to be friendlier than what you generally encounter at DL and DCA. Although I still consider DL itself to be far superior overall.

DCA
I disagree with another poster who stated that World of Color might be worth the price of admission. Granted, since it hasn't opened yet, I certainly don't know any better than he does as far as how good it will be. It's just very difficult for me to imagine that a single water show would be enough to justify the high price of admission to a Disney park. In fact, I've never really understood why DCA charges the same amount for admission as DL. To me that's like having a 2-diamond Comfort Inn next to a 5-diamond Ritz Carlton and charging the same for both. But I digress... If you've been to WDW, then picture a park that basically takes a sampling of rides and attractions from WDW and places them all near each other. Most of what DCA has is stuff you've likely already experienced at WDW. Some just have different names. For example, Grizzly River Run is basically the same ride as Kali River Rapids at DAK. The one part of the park that is unique as Disney parks go is actually NOT unique at all as most amusement parks go. I'm speaking of Paradise Pier, which is the largest section of the park, but is filled with just a midway and a bunch of carnival rides. CA Screamin is a decent coaster though, but if its coasters you want, Knott's far surpasses DCA. This is my overall opinion of DCA even without all the construction walls and stuff.

Universal Studios Hollywood
What makes this park cool is that it's an actual studio and there's a lot of movie history there. The highlight is the backlot tour because it covers a lot of acreage and you get to see a lot of the actual spots where some classic movies were made. Aside from that, it's a not-quite-as-good version of Universal Studios Florida. If you've been to USF, then you might be somewhat disappointed by this one.
 

sponono88

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^ I agree about Knotts - I love the park and I think it's highly underrated. I have to say though, I'm not a fan of the direction the park seems to taking since Cedar Fair took over. I love the "old" Knotts though - what remains of it.

I respect your opinion about DCA, but I will have to disagree with most of it. World of Color is not just a water show - Steven Davison billed it the largest show ever made by Disney entertainment. You've admitted you know very little about it but you continue to dismiss it as just another water show..

And regarding Paradise Pier - it happens to have some unique rides. California Screamin' is the world's longest launching coaster, and world's longest looping coaster. Mickey's Fun Wheel is one of only two full-size replicas of the original Coney Island Wonder Wheel. The Golden Zephyr is the only ride of its kind still in existence in North America, it was custom built just for DCA.
 

TP2000

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It also has Bigfoot Rapids, which is just as good as Grizzly River Run. On top of all that, I actually find the employees at Knott's to be friendlier than what you generally encounter at DL and DCA.

This is where you totally lost me. :confused:

While I have fond memories of Knott's in the 1970's and 80's, it has really gone downhill in the past 10 years. Really downhill. The Knott's employees on my last visit a few years ago ranged from a couple of sweet little old ladies in Ghost Town, to dozens of bored and totally disinterested teens staring blankly at me, to a few scary standouts who seemed right out of a prison work release program without proper supervision. :eek:

As for Grizzly River Run being on par with Bigfoot Rapids, I'm sorry, but no.

Bigfoot Rapids, built in 1988, is your typical 80's theme park raft ride. No real theme here, just basic landscaping along a cement flume with mild white water segments. Bigfoot is mentioned in the title, and then never referenced again on the attraction. No bigfoot here. Cycle time is unimpressive at 3:10 minutes, including the lift hill.

Bigfoot Rapids Knott's Berry Farm
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Grizzly River Run is much longer and grander than Kali River Rapids. Cycle time is 6:45 minutes including the lift hill, and it's unusually themed for a DCA opening day attraction. Backstory galore, geysers and waterfalls and water effects everywhere, with two big drops that make the ride very unique. Pictures speak a thousand words though...

Grizzly River Run at DCA
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Ziffell

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^ I agree about Knotts - I love the park and I think it's highly underrated. I have to say though, I'm not a fan of the direction the park seems to taking since Cedar Fair took over. I love the "old" Knotts though - what remains of it.

I agree Knott's has lost a little bit as a result of Cedar Fair's involvement, but it's all relative. Even in it's current state, it's better than DCA. It still has a uniqueness and charm that has not been lost as a result of Cedar Fair.

I respect your opinion about DCA, but I will have to disagree with most of it. World of Color is not just a water show - Steven Davison billed it the largest show ever made by Disney entertainment. You've admitted you know very little about it but you continue to dismiss it as just another water show..

I'm not saying that I know "very little" about it. I'm just saying that I don't claim to know it any better than anyone else. And despite what we've all read about what it is hyped up to be, there is really no way that anyone will know for sure until it actually opens. Having said all that, my point was that it is hard for me to imagine any show or attraction being "worth the price of admission" as another poster suggested it "might be". Considering the price of admission to a Disney park, it would have to be the most spectacular attraction ever created in order for it to be worth the price of admission. I don't consider any single attraction to be worth that. Based on what I've seen about World of Color, I'm sure it is going to be a nice show. But essentially, it is scenes of Disney characters projected onto mists of water set to music. Again, I'm sure it will be worthwhile to see it. But it's hardly a new concept.

And regarding Paradise Pier - it happens to have some unique rides. California Screamin' is the world's longest launching coaster, and world's longest looping coaster. Mickey's Fun Wheel is one of only two full-size replicas of the original Coney Island Wonder Wheel. The Golden Zephyr is the only ride of its kind still in existence in North America, it was custom built just for DCA.

California Screamin holds some records, but being the "longest" of any category of ride doesn't necessarily make it all that "unique" of an experience. Nevertheless, I do think it is a decent coaster and I mentioned that already in my post. I wouldn't consider it to be one of the best coasters I've been on by any stretch, but it's decent. The other rides might be unique in the sense that they are rare, but they are still "carnival" rides. Hardly worthy of a Disney caliber attraction. In fact, those types of rides represent the very thing that Walt was trying to avoid in distinguishing Disneyland as a unique experience.
 

Rufus T Firefly

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California Screamin holds some records, but being the "longest" of any category of ride doesn't necessarily make it all that "unique" of an experience. Nevertheless, I do think it is a decent coaster and I mentioned that already in my post. I wouldn't consider it to be one of the best coasters I've been on by any stretch, but it's decent. The other rides might be unique in the sense that they are rare, but they are still "carnival" rides. Hardly worthy of a Disney caliber attraction. In fact, those types of rides represent the very thing that Walt was trying to avoid in distinguishing Disneyland as a unique experience.

Yet even from the very begining, Disneyland has had it's fair share of carnival type rides. Carousels, dark rides and the teacup spinning type of ride were all popular carnival rides well before Disneyland was ever on the drawing board.
 

sponono88

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Ah, yes. The Grizzly Peak area - starting from the trail that leads from Condor Flats, this whole area is amazing. The shooting geysers, waterfalls, the fog and lighting at night - you also have the steam donkey machine, and an actual spinning mill; the themeing here is excellent throughout. The ride even has a special mechanism that makes the vehicles spin in the final drop :)

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-marythecatsmeow

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-Miss Shari

oh and the backside of the mountain is equally as impressive :)
 

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