News DeSantis moves to bring state safety oversight of the Walt Disney World Monorail including suspending the service for inspections

[danlb_2000]

Most states have vehicle inspection, states inspect restaurants, FAA inspects aircraft, build a house it has to be inspected and you don't blink an eye about it. How is FDOT oppressing you personally by inspecting the monorail.

Pretty much any think that is done to punish Disney in relation to monorails will probably roll down in some ways to guests. Inconveniencing guests is a good way to punish Disney.

 

[Batman'sParents]

The state knows how to do monorail inspections??

Not sure if this is joking, but the state should. The state regularly inspects the monorail systems at the major airports. that means the ability is there, but Disney’s is on another level

 

[Rich Brownn]

Not sure if this is joking, but the state should. The state regularly inspects the monorail systems at the major airports. that means the ability is there, but Disney’s is on another level

Those aren't monorails, they are people movers that run on tires on a concrete "road".

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Those aren't monorails, they are people movers that run on tires on a concrete "road".

concrete guide
Electric vehicle
Automatic doors
Rubber tires
Both are people mover systems by definition.

As far as safety inspections go, they are extremely similar systems.

 

[JoeCamel]

Those aren't monorails, they are people movers that run on tires on a concrete "road".

It's OK, the FDOT will ask Disney what they need to inspect and Disney will train them......

Might as well learn from an expert with experience on this particular iteration since the law only applies to this specific iteration.....

 

[Dcgc28]

This is one of those things that if used maliciously it could be bad. But if used correctly is a nonissue. If FDOT needs to inspect the monorails, or any of the transportation for that matter, why would it be a problem? Disney should be at the very very least running at state level standards.

If anything the state standard should be an easier inspection than Disneys private standards

 

[mkt]

You are right no it is no. A private entity owner does have the freedom of speech. Other businesses can make the choice to longer affiliate, but X should not be shut down by government censorship.
That is what you are saying Disney has the right to keep right?
Brian has the point here.

Disney and X are completely different types of businesses first off.

One is a social media platform and the other is an entertainment conglomerate.

One creates content (Disney) and the other is a place where content can be shared (X).

Both have the right to express themselves, and not suffer repercussions from the government.

However, neither one is immune from consequences stemming from other companies or private citizens for their exercising of free speech.

 

[celluloid]

Disney and X are completely different types of businesses first off.

One is a social media platform and the other is an entertainment conglomerate.

One creates content (Disney) and the other is a place where content can be shared (X).

Both have the right to express themselves, and not suffer repercussions from the government.

However, neither one is immune from consequences stemming from other companies or private citizens for their exercising of free speech.

With that out of the way, X has every right to moderate the content on their platform as they are the owner of the platform. Regardless of what Elon says, X deleting tweets and banning controversial users is not a violation of free speech, since you never have free speech on a privately owned platform. But since he says it, he gets called out when his critics find themselves suddenly banned.

Yep, and even if it sucks. That is his right.

Was it not said that Bob Iger's biggest goof was first pushing the idea that Disney is not Reedy Creek and Reedy Creek is not Disney.

As shady or connected as the intention can be seen, it also positioned Disney not as the government entity. The government entity is changed.

We can huff all we want and are likely right on the money about it's disrespect but it is not unconstitutional.

 

[mkt]

Yep, and even if it sucks. That is his right.

Was it not said that Bob Iger's biggest goof was first pushing the idea that Disney is not Reedy Creek and Reedy Creek is not Disney.

As shady or connected as the intention can be seen, it also positioned Disney not as the government entity. The government entity is changed.

We can huff all we want and are likely right on the money about it's disrespect but it is not unconstitutional.

Getting banned from X? Not unconstitutional.

Having the power of the state of Florida used against your company in retaliation for expressing an opinion contrary to that of the governor of Florida? Extremely unconstitutional.

 

[celluloid]

Desantis has admitted he’s punishing Disney because they spoke out against the Don’t Say Gay bill. A corporation being punished for exercising their right to free speech is absolutely unconstitutional. There’s no question about it.

He can admit why he is doing it for voters. Politicians and their teams rile people up all the time while carefully crafting it different to how it is said. This is why it is not a quick court case. You can bet lawyers would be getting rich quick if it was easy to decide as unconstitutional.

Often the issue is both sides believe the same thing, that he is punishing a company. He punishing a government affiliation.

Unfortunately for Disney, they had a strength that was a weakness for this kind of thing. If the law does not specially say Disney, but rather local government regulation, than there is not a cut and dry case.

It can be messed up but still not unconstitutional.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

It should be incredibly clear to anyone that this is an entirely politically motivated move designed to impact Disney's operations.

Ron DeSantis signed bill HB 1305 into law in May 2023, which specifically targets Walt Disney World's monorail by referencing "any governmentally or privately owned fixed-guideway transportation systems operating in this state which are located within an independent special district created by local act which have boundaries within two contiguous counties."

Adding the clause that the monorail can be closed for inspections is clearly a further attempt to threaten Disney's operations.

I feel very comfortable with my report on this, as I fully believe it is a case of the Florida Governor targeting Disney.

I, for one, appreciate that you are willing to call it like it is.

 

[Nubs70]

Getting banned from X? Not unconstitutional.

Having the power of the state of Florida used against your company in retaliation for expressing an opinion contrary to that of the governor of Florida? Extremely unconstitutional.

To which WDW is still entitled to relief in court in the event WDW is aggrieved.

 

[Andrew C]

To which WDW is still entitled to relief in court in the event WDW is aggrieved.

They should receive relief IMO through the courts. I’m just not sure what that relief will/can look like.

 

[Rich Brownn]

concrete guide
Electric vehicle
Automatic doors
Rubber tires
Both are people mover systems by definition.

As far as safety inspections go, they are extremely similar systems.

Except airport people movers use two wheels on each side, just like a car. Monorails have one top wheel, side wheels. They are no the same in any way. Try rounding a corner at 40mph with an airport PeopleMover

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Except airport people movers use two wheels on each side, just like a car. Monorails have one top wheel, side wheels. They are no the same in any way. Try rounding a corner at 40mph with an airport PeopleMover

So the FDOT is not capable of understanding the differences?

 

[pdude81]

This is one of those things that if used maliciously it could be bad. But if used correctly is a nonissue. If FDOT needs to inspect the monorails, or any of the transportation for that matter, why would it be a problem? Disney should be at the very very least running at state level standards.

If anything the state standard should be an easier inspection than Disneys private standards

It's at a minimum being used for leverage. We'll see whether or not things are on the up and up until the Federal and state lawsuits are resolved to show that the state reeeeeeeeaaaalllllyyyy cares about safety, or whether the idea is to disrupt operations however it can legally be done.

 

[Disstevefan1]

It’s not about safety. WDW has already proven safety for over 50 years at WDW.

I worry that this will result in the closure of an already proven to be safe monorail system.

 

[Nubs70]

It’s not about safety. WDW has already proven safety for over 50 years at WDW.

I worry that this will result in the closure of an already proven to be safe monorail system.

Otis elevator has proven safety for over 100 years, yet elevators are inspected by governmental safety agencies every year.

 

[Lilofan]

It’s not about safety. WDW has already proven safety for over 50 years at WDW.

I worry that this will result in the closure of an already proven to be safe monorail system.

The monorail is a big selling point when staying at the Grand , Poly, Contemporary.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Otis elevator has proven safety for over 100 years, yet elevators are inspected by governmental safety agencies every year.

WDW has done a good job at inspecting the WDW monorails for over 50 years before (you know who) took over.