"Dated"

[Spike-in-Berlin]

I would define a "dated" attraction as an attraction which not only is quite old compared to the majority of the attractions in the park but shows it in its technology and landscaping/design without the nostalgia and/or atmosphere surrounding it strong enough to compensate the loss of being up-to-date. Meaning that some really old attractions are still not dated although there technology is decades old because nostalgia saves them but some much younger attractions are dated because there is no nostalgia existing that saves them from being "dated".
Jungle Cruise has a very strong nostalgia saving it for many people from being considered dated although in technological terms its completely outdated while JII, much younger but also already dated in technological terms is dated for most guests because no nostalgia whatsoever surrounds this petty excuse for an attraction.

 

[SyracuseDisneyFan]

Carousel of Progress. It's still one of my favorites, though.

 

[muteki]

I always thought the term was overused, or people have a very different concept of time than I do.

 

[morningstar]

I honestly can't see why you would prefer the original Star Tours in any way other than for nostalgia purposes.

All you did was: go the wrong way, light speed, comets, battle/death star trench, light speed, end. The new version only borrows the much more interesting settings from the prequels, not their awful writing. The sequences are just so incredibly more interesting and exciting, random or not.

I don't prefer the old Star Tours, but I don't think its inferiority had anything to do with being dated. I agree the story wasn't that good, but it was a wild ride with some surprise twists and turns, and the visual effects were good.

 

[morningstar]

Jungle Cruise has a very strong nostalgia saving it for many people from being considered dated although in technological terms its completely outdated

Jungle Cruise is also "dated-proof" because it has always depended on self-deprecating humor. It has always asked the audience to laugh at how unrealistic it is. The more outdated its animatronics get, the funnier the joke.

 

[morningstar]

I always thought the term was overused, or people have a very different concept of time than I do.

That may be true. To me, Jurassic Park was one of the groundbreaking movies for CGI. But if you are 20 years old, and it came out before you were born, maybe it's dated to you.

 

[JillC LI]

I'm hearing a lot of people comment on various threads that such-and-such ride is/was "dated". Like Inigo Montoya, "I do not think that word means what you think it means."

I can't believe that no other hard-core Princess Bride fans have noted the mistake here! It wasn't Inigo Montoya who made this statement in the movie. It was Westley (dressed as the Dread Pirate Roberts) who said that to Vizzini (the guy who kept saying "Inconcievable!") when they had a battle of wits. Inigo Montoya's famous line was "My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!"

 

[MichWolv]

I can't believe that no other hard-core Princess Bride fans have noted the mistake here! It wasn't Inigo Montoya who made this statement in the movie. It was Westley (dressed as the Dread Pirate Roberts) who said that to Vizzini (the guy who kept saying "Inconcievable!") when they had a battle of wits. Inigo Montoya's famous line was "My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!"

 

[JillC LI]

OMG, I stand corrected @MichWolv! I was sure it happened during the battle of wits where Vizzini was killed! Apparently, my wits could use a tad sharpening

 

[Goofyernmost]

Carousel of Progress. It's still one of my favorites, though.

The thing with CoP is that we all have to stop looking at it as a "current" attraction and get the mind set of historical. For example, I'm 66 years old. Ancient by most of your standards, yet, I never lived through the early 20th century. I know what I had when I was a kid in the 50's, but, I'm oblivious to anything before. Today's kids don't know that iPads haven't always been here or color TV, or running water or about pumps needed to get water. Radio, is something that they sometimes hear in a car, but, other then that who sits around listening to radio anymore.

CoP will never age because it depicts reality. A reality of the past that all of us should be aware of if for no other reason then to appreciate what we have today.

In it's time, brand new, it was a reflection on the past. A chronicle of progress. It gave way to the final scene as a prediction of the future. That future is now behind us. We know what we have today, no one knows what technology will bring us in the future that we are looking at. CoP, other then being entertaining and having an upbeat song, is that link to the past. On top of that it has the fingerprints of Walt Disney himself all over it. It shows what could be accomplish that had never been done before. Even the old animatronics were knock your socks off, mind boggling when first introduced. It's engineering a thing never seen before that has, like that famous rabbit, keeps going and going and going even after 50 years of almost continuous operation. Try that with any of your new and high tech stuff of today.

 

[Bairstow]

I honestly can't see why you would prefer the original Star Tours in any way other than for nostalgia purposes.

All you did was: go the wrong way, light speed, comets, battle/death star trench, light speed, end. The new version only borrows the much more interesting settings from the prequels, not their awful writing. The sequences are just so incredibly more interesting and exciting, random or not.

I know a complaint has been thrown around here about how encountering all these famous characters makes the Star Wars universe seem smaller... but so does blowing up the Death Star, the most significant event that could possibly be happening in the galaxy at that moment. Besides, I want to see famous characters. I want C3P0 as an actual animatronic on board with me, not a droid voiced by Pee Wee Herman.

Opinions can differ, but to me the new Star Tours ride is just like the new Star Wars prequels- a lot of overcrowded, computer-rendered noise with as many characters as possible shoved into every frame in order to sell more action figures.

The original attraction featured real effects and an original adventure, and served to make the Star Wars "universe" seem like a bigger place.

 

[WondersOfLife]

I'm hearing a lot of people comment on various threads that such-and-such ride is/was "dated". Like Inigo Montoya, "I do not think that word means what you think it means."

Horizons - dated
Ellen's Energy Adventure - dated

Whether or not we agree on those points, I can see where someone is coming from. Horizons had the problem of the future catching up with it. Energy Adventure relies on the popularity of a star who isn't on TV any more (right?). However

Star Tours v1 - dated?
original Journey Into Imagination - dated?

Not sure how these can be described as dated. They didn't rely on any current cultural references. They didn't have any factual information that has since been refuted. Are you saying the ride technology was no longer cutting edge? But the replacement rides use the same technology.

I'm wondering if what people mean by dated is just that they have ridden the ride so many times that they're tired of it.

Nope... She's still on the air and apparently very popular still. All booked up on tickets.

http://www.ellentv.com/tickets/

She's just not.... 1990s Ellen anymore. Looks totally different. Same with Jeapordy. Bill Nye.... Ehh... I personally think he became "dated" directly at the year of 2001. But, he's still a fun character dated or not. The thing just needs a re-film and it would be back to today's standards. Maybe some script and pun tweaks.


I wouldn't consider Star Tours or Imagination dated.. Just anything with a film needs to be updated every 3 or 4 years or so.

 

[morningstar]

I wouldn't consider Star Tours or Imagination dated.. Just anything with a film needs to be updated every 3 or 4 years or so.

Just a reprint from a negative, or actual content changes to the film?

 

[MikeTaylorSound]

If you were to change the ride vehicle on Kilamanjaro Safaris in AK to a boat with a skipper, you'd have the updated version of the Jungle Cruise w/real animals, but without the puns and banter. This example kind of shows you the difference between "classic" and "dated". Walt always wanted animals in one of his parks, but the JC was the only logical way to do it at the time. There are certain CM's that go off script at night on the JC and that keeps it fun and fresh (in a way, like Star Tours with different scenarios), but most visiting families aren't aware of this and get the same attraction with the same script when they come back.

IMHO, after Swiss, Stitch, and something I probably won't be able to predict, the JC will be the next attraction to get the ax at MK. It takes up a large amount of real estate and the ride capacity is fairly low. You thought Snow White's Scary Adventures was untouchable?

 

[Tom Morrow]

Opinions can differ, but to me the new Star Tours ride is just like the new Star Wars prequels- a lot of overcrowded, computer-rendered noise with as many characters as possible shoved into every frame in order to sell more action figures.

The original attraction featured real effects and an original adventure, and served to make the Star Wars "universe" seem like a bigger place.

I can see your reasoning except for the bolded part - you only went through a comet and the death star, and blew up the death star, which is the most significant possible thing in the Star Wars universe.

 

[Bairstow]

I can see your reasoning except for the bolded part - you only went through a comet and the death star, and blew up the death star, which is the most significant possible thing in the Star Wars universe.

A Death Star. It's not like there was only one.
Also, I seem to recall an interview with Tony Baxter or someone regarding the creation of the attraction, and originally Lucasfilm didn't want to include the death star bit, having the ride focus entirely on originally elements and sequences, but the Disney half of the creative team insisted.

 

[Courtney6682]

Captain EO. It's there because of the nostalgia factor but man does that film scream 80s.
While the ride isn't really dated the Digital version of Figment needs an update. That model made me cringe as I've seen students do better.

Totally agree with CEO..my daughter saw it for the 1ST time when she was 11 in 2011 and was scared to death lol...I kept asking how its possible to be scared when someing is that cheesey!! Plus when I pointed out Whitney Houston she had no clue who she was lol...not to mention she didn't recognize MJ

 

[JillC LI]

Just a reprint from a negative, or actual content changes to the film?

That's really weird how your message quotes me as saying the comment about Star Tours since I never posted anything about Star Tours. ?????? It was @WondersOfLife who posted that comment.

 

[morningstar]

That's really weird how your message quotes me as saying the comment about Star Tours since I never posted anything about Star Tours. ?????? It was @WondersOfLife who posted that comment.

Sorry, I don't know how that happened. I don't think I monkeyed with the QUOTE tag. I think I just hit reply and typed my response.

 

[Tinkwings]

Well I supposed dated is suggested to be a negative.....as in it needs to be updated, changed. As far as COP is concerned, to update it would be a shame other than cleaning and upkeep, it is a classic thing created by Walt Disney himself for the 1964 worlds fair, and by Blaine's own words who created the figures, there was more Walt in THIS particular attraction than any other....he was hyperinvolved in it's whole essence. In fact the sponsor initially rejected as they thought it "dated" and nostalgic themselves in the 60"s and that is what Walt said people wanted.....nostalgia. So being it is one actual thing Walt actually had hands on and eyes on in his day residing at WDW is amazing to me and priceless as a Disney geek. And recently we discussed updating it and I thought would showing the final scene with everyone on tech gadgets not communicating as is the case in todays reality be plussing,improving or keeping with the charm of the original? Nope.....being dated in this case IS GOOD!