Daredevil Cancelled

Mr Ferret 75

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MisterPenguin

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That doesn't even mention Iger once and yet you're attributing to him a decree about the Mavel/Netflix universe.

Other sources have mentioned the rising friction between production companies over cost of these series and the inability for both sides to find a common ground.

Iger has said specifically in a quarterly call that licensing Disney IP to other streaming services is not out of the question.
 

Sped2424

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That doesn't even mention Iger once and yet you're attributing to him a decree about the Mavel/Netflix universe.

Other sources have mentioned the rising friction between production companies over cost of these series and the inability for both sides to find a common ground.

Iger has said specifically in a quarterly call that licensing Disney IP to other streaming services is not out of the question.
I am absolutely attributing him to this because the streaming service is his and the company's new outing/priority. Makes more than enough sense that they would want online marvel shows to exist there and only there. The article makes it out to be more nuanced and I am sure there are other reasons involved. But I won't be convinced otherwise that the biggest determining factor isn't "we are starting our own streaming service and need our content on our platform and not others".
 

MisterPenguin

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I am absolutely attributing him to this because the streaming service is his and the company's new outing/priority. Makes more than enough sense that they would want online marvel shows to exist there and only there. The article makes it out to be more nuanced and I am sure there are other reasons involved. But I won't be convinced otherwise that the biggest determining factor isn't "we are starting our own streaming service and need our content on our platform and not others".

Far be it from me to infringe on your religious beliefs in which the Devil is Bob Iger. You can proselytize all you want, but I'm not ascribing to your beliefs without some evidence.
 

Sped2424

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Far be it from me to infringe on your religious beliefs in which the Devil is Bob Iger. You can proselytize all you want, but I'm not ascribing to your beliefs without some evidence.
Woah there cowboy I know you don't like it when people criticize the Disney company but I don't think Bob Iger is the devil in the slightest.. I love a lot of what he's done actually and overall think he's a positive addition to the company during his tenure. And as I said if the decision to kill the Netflix shows came from him I'd understand it entirely. I think you're conflating me with ideals I don't carry. And I'm not asking you to ascribe to anything believe what you want my dude.
 

MisterPenguin

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Woah there cowboy I know you don't like it when people criticize the Disney company but I don't think Bob Iger is the devil in the slightest.. I love a lot of what he's done actually and overall think he's a positive addition to the company during his tenure. And as I said if the decision to kill the Netflix shows came from him I'd understand it entirely. I think you're conflating me with ideals I don't carry. And I'm not asking you to ascribe to anything believe what you want my dude.

You stated that Iger was decreeing a specific policy with no evidence. And when contrary evidence is pointed out, you hold onto your belief. I'm not defending anyone. I'm just making sure the record is correct and the Fake News gets out that Iger personally killed Netflix-Marvel.
 

Sped2424

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You stated that Iger was decreeing a specific policy with no evidence. And when contrary evidence is pointed out, you hold onto your belief. I'm not defending anyone. I'm just making sure the record is correct and the Fake News gets out that Iger personally killed Netflix-Marvel.

What Contrary evidence? The article pointed out that Disney's more than likely had a huge part on shutting down these marvel shows? Who runs Disney Iger, who wants a streaming service to succeed and again understandably so? Iger. And there is much more rampant fake news out there in the world than the possibility of my own belief that I think Iger wanting to rightfully strengthen his own service decided to pull the plug on those shows?

Other posters have said on here that it wasn't netflix's decision to do this and I don't see you taking them to set the "record correct" in the same manner.. Why does this bother you that bad that I believe this especially when I have been nothing but respectful about it? It would be one thing if I was insanely touting that Disney wants all marvel fans dead and handing out fliers. Me thinking Iger wants Marvel exclusive to his own streaming service? Yeah not out of the realm of possibility. Perhaps this should be our last interaction on this as it's clogging up the thread and clearly we have a difference of opinion.
 
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Princess Leia

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I thought it was common sense but here ya go
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhu...s-cancelling-their-marvel-shows/#783ae5d7196c
Though if this won't convince you not sure any other source will but one doesn't cancel Daredevil a show which by all means had a healthy viewership and was big enough to kick off it's on mcu on netflix out of the blue the way they did. The writers even had season 4 mapped out and according to one of them this came as a surprise..
With the ending they made, it definitely foreshadowed a Season 4.
 

LSLS

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I am absolutely attributing him to this because the streaming service is his and the company's new outing/priority. Makes more than enough sense that they would want online marvel shows to exist there and only there. The article makes it out to be more nuanced and I am sure there are other reasons involved. But I won't be convinced otherwise that the biggest determining factor isn't "we are starting our own streaming service and need our content on our platform and not others".

I don't know. A lot of these shows (especially the two left) will in no way be on the Disney streaming service. Maybe they want to make them into Hulu shows, but I actually wouldn't be shocked if what is stated in the article is somewhat correct and Netflix is more behind it. Look at it this way. If you have no way to bring those characters over, wouldn't you want them on somewhere else where they are still drumming up attention (meaning merch sales/more promotion of Marvel/etc.)? If you get rid of their shows, are the fans of those shows going to go "Oh man, I'm leaving Netflix because Frank Castle is no longer there. I'm cancelling my Netflix account and picking up Disney service to get the PG Scarlet Witch show now." I think you are talking completely different crowds (and by different crowds, I mean those that would pick one or the other. In other words, someone who loves the Punisher series and is not into other Marvel isn't going to leave Netflix to start watching Disney streaming if Punisher is no longer on Netflix).
 

Sped2424

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I don't know. A lot of these shows (especially the two left) will in no way be on the Disney streaming service. Maybe they want to make them into Hulu shows, but I actually wouldn't be shocked if what is stated in the article is somewhat correct and Netflix is more behind it. Look at it this way. If you have no way to bring those characters over, wouldn't you want them on somewhere else where they are still drumming up attention (meaning merch sales/more promotion of Marvel/etc.)? If you get rid of their shows, are the fans of those shows going to go "Oh man, I'm leaving Netflix because Frank Castle is no longer there. I'm cancelling my Netflix account and picking up Disney service to get the PG Scarlet Witch show now." I think you are talking completely different crowds (and by different crowds, I mean those that would pick one or the other. In other words, someone who loves the Punisher series and is not into other Marvel isn't going to leave Netflix to start watching Disney streaming if Punisher is no longer on Netflix).
I see your point and I don't disagree! I just think it leaves the Disney streaming service stronger if you can say here is where you go for any and all new marvel content (Especially content that from what it looks like will actually be in direct connection to the MCU)! And recall the article stated that it sees that both Disney had an incentive and Netflix and that the likely scenario is one or even both parties decided to pull the plug. I am just of the personal belief that Disney more than anyone wanted this and as I said I can understand why! But I get your opinion and I thank you for engaging with me positively my dude.
 

LSLS

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I see your point and I don't disagree! I just think it leaves the Disney streaming service stronger if you can say here is where you go for any and all new marvel content (Especially content that from what it looks like will actually be in direct connection to the MCU)! And recall the article stated that it sees that both Disney had an incentive and Netflix and that the likely scenario is one or even both parties decided to pull the plug. I am just of the personal belief that Disney more than anyone wanted this and as I said I can understand why! But I get your opinion and I thank you for engaging with me positively my dude.

Yeah I could see that. If Disney was to move the properties somewhere else I'd completely buy it. Just not sure they would essentially eliminate an entire group of Marvel superheros just to stick it to Netflix. Maybe I just enjoyed the Punisher way too much and I'm just too hopeful.
 

Sped2424

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Yeah I could see that. If Disney was to move the properties somewhere else I'd completely buy it. Just not sure they would essentially eliminate an entire group of Marvel superheros just to stick it to Netflix. Maybe I just enjoyed the Punisher way too much and I'm just too hopeful.
Hey who knows! At least we know Punisher season 2 is a given at this point! But anything beyond that is unlikely :(
 

champdisney

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Are the shows actually leaving Netflix? I kind of just gathered that no more seasons would be created.
From my understanding, the established seasons that are available on the platform will remain. What I was referring to was the possibility of Netflix and Disney coming to an agreement to continue the Punisher series on Netflix as it is wildly popular and with the TV-MA rating, they may want to keep that running... Of course, there’s always Hulu.

Pretty much, everything’s on the fence. We’ll see.
 

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