News D23 Expo 2022

[Brummyboy92]

I am hugely against Zootopia being in the Animal Kingdom, I can't even begin to comprehend how anyone in Disney truly thinks that fit's in with the park. Moana I can stomach, kind of. If they want to turn Dinoland into a wider area, with mini-lands within, then I am not dead set against them steering it more towards the aquatic theme. Kind of like what we are seeing with Disney Springs in Tokyo, lands within a land. Moana I guess fit's into that, a few other IP's spring to mind, however Zootopia is huge no no from me.

I keep saying it, but I would much prefer them to stick to a continent/country theme and build out IP's within, whether that be Australia or India, or Polynesia. I'm also not against a log flume style attraction within AK, the resort could do within another besides Splash.

 

[Stevie Amsterdam]

I'm also not against a log flume style attraction within AK

 

[Inspired Figment]

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He was referring to that. He’s just saying that he’s not against the ride system it’s using. But moreso how the ‘theme’ is implemented and how that further reflects (moreso lack thereof in this case) back to the park’s mission statement and larger theme at hand.

 

[Brummyboy92]

He was referring to that. He’s just saying that he’s not against the ride system it’s using. But moreso how the ‘theme’ is implemented and how that further reflects (moreso lack thereof in this case) back to the park’s mission statement and larger theme at hand.

This.

Sorry, did not make that clear.

 

[Stevie Amsterdam]

He was referring to that. He’s just saying that he’s not against the ride system it’s using. But moreso how the ‘theme’ is implemented and how that further reflects (moreso lack thereof in this case) back to the park’s mission statement and larger theme at hand.

Could you also please follow my posts and elaborate when people react to them? Would save me loads of time

 

[Stevie Amsterdam]

This.

Sorry, did not make that clear.

No worries mate I was just having a laugh. I fully agree with your post!

 

[esskay]

I feel disgusted in myself. I was suddenly thinking "Meh...Moana in AK may not be so bad. It's better than crappy DinoMcParkingLotAndCrappyOldRideVille."

Really wish beastly kingdom would've been considered for that area. All we're going to get now is the same crappy land but with Hay Hay (look everybody, it's an animal!!)

Flatten that entire section and start again, Dinosaur is junk - sorry but it's just a really crap ride, and retheming it wont fix that.

 

[networkpro]

I am hugely against Zootopia being in the Animal Kingdom, I can't even begin to comprehend how anyone in Disney truly thinks that fit's in with the park. Moana I can stomach, kind of. If they want to turn Dinoland into a wider area, with mini-lands within, then I am not dead set against them steering it more towards the aquatic theme. Kind of like what we are seeing with Disney Springs in Tokyo, lands within a land. Moana I guess fit's into that, a few other IP's spring to mind, however Zootopia is huge no no from me.

I keep saying it, but I would much prefer them to stick to a continent/country theme and build out IP's within, whether that be Australia or India, or Polynesia. I'm also not against a log flume style attraction within AK, the resort could do within another besides Splash.

Zootopia is just going to be a smaller scale borrowing of some of the Communist China elements. Maybe a puppet wall.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Sadly I think the answer is as simple as “Gotta have something new to advertise in 2023”

The good news is that 2023 is only 4 months away, not 10 years.

 

[doctornick]

I keep saying it, but I would much prefer them to stick to a continent/country theme and build out IP's within, whether that be Australia or India, or Polynesia.

It seems likely that’s exactly what they are doing with Moana, no? I mean it’s right next to Nemo and it was indicated in the past there are plans to detach Dinorama from the rest of Dinoland USA to make it a separate land. If the Liana thing happens I’d be surprised if it’s not as a “Oceana” type land.

Edit: that’s one of the reasons I’m fairly accepting of the Moana change were it to happen. It actually strengthens the continental divisions of DAK. that leaves the nice large area north of Asia to be perfect for South America. Would also be great if they could add some Australian or Pacific Island animals to the area around Moana too. Even just 2 or 3 for atmosphere and some nominal learning.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I know I booed him on Day 1. I believe my sister did. There were definitely other people booing.

I'm sure that the few expressing their disapproval verbally will make him feel terrible when he spends his millions in bonuses that you are still giving him. It's like shooting a charging lion with a water pistol.

 

[Disneyfan_76]

I'd be 'ok' with Moana, but not Zootopia. It just doesn't fit with AK for me. I feel like it would be much better in the Studios park, which badly needs another attraction anyway. Still, while Dinosaur and the parking lot fiesta are not great, I will miss having Dinosaurs as part of the park. They really should keep some element of it somewhere, even if it is just the boneyard. Perhaps some of those elements could be moved over to the Conservation Station. It would be a good out of the way place that would not have large noise impact on the backstage areas. I just feel that they shouldn't completely capitulate dinos to the competition.

 

[matt9112]

So they let it rot outside for the 50th, but it gets cleaned up to live in LA forever? No wonder Orlando feels like second class citizens.

Feels that way slot in fact one small reason I appreciate uni is I know orlando is there main squeeze unlike disney.

I heard a joke once something leaves Florida to go to California if doesn’t return.

 

[Brummyboy92]

It seems likely that’s exactly what they are doing with Moana, no? I mean it’s right next to Nemo and it was indicated in the past there are plans to detach Dinorama from the rest of Dinoland USA to make it a separate land. If the Liana thing happens I’d be surprised if it’s not as a “Oceana” type land.

Edit: that’s one of the reasons I’m fairly accepting of the Moana change were it to happen. It actually strengthens the continental divisions of DAK. that leaves the nice large area north of Asia to be perfect for South America. Would also be great if they could add some Australian or Pacific Island animals to the area around Moana too. Even just 2 or 3 for atmosphere and some nominal learning.

Potentially, however it all seems very vague at the moment. And with the direction Disney is moving in, I don't foresee them creating a land based on Oz, or another real life geographic location, with the IP's within, rather the land itself will be based on the IP such as Star Wars, Frozen, Toy Story, etc. It just does not make that much sense taking the park in that direction, but I appreciate this has been something people have discussed for several years now.

I find it super frustrating because it seems obvious to me. IP the s**t out of the parks to your hearts content, but make it make sense. And what we have seen here, be it Zootopia, Coco, Encanto, just does not sit right with me. Not to say I don't want to see these IP's in the parks, I do, however ensure it upholds the integrity of the parks.

I hope people don't think I am trolling or being overly negative, I'm just really concerned about the future of Disney parks, & ultimately want the best for them. The only positive takeaway for me as Brit, is the current company are keeping their hands off Disneyland Paris park for the time being. Despite the park being desperate for new attractions, the current company cannot be trusted to deliver, and match the quality of the existing park.

 

[Bob Harlem]

After yesterday, meh. Now would be a good time to release official info on a land or two at Epic Universe.

 

[Indy_UK]

Also, in their pursuit to cram in as much IP, they are essentially splitting a land like Pandora over 2 IPs and giving only one attraction for IP.

I would be more on board with Moana, if they weren’t already putting it into Epcot.

With Zootopia, are cartoon dinosaurs in Dinoland much better than cartoon animals from Zootopia? I do think the park needs more kiddy-esc rides

 

[matt9112]

You guys hate, but "The Magic is Calling" and "You Are the Magic" are the two best things about the 50th anniversary.

I will listen to the second one…the first one honestly feel flat on me idk why.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Don't care what is done with Dinoland so long as The Bone Yard is not messed with. If there is one thing in Dinoland that is truly popular it's The Bone Yard.

 

[Fox&Hound]

Wow, still thinking about this event. I feel like they were so very unprepared for this event (why?) and had nothing to comment on because they truly do not have a lot of active projects besides Tron, Splash (I guess), and Moana. Most other projects seem dead. A few random thoughts:

1. The lack of Splash details absolutely confirms they have no clue what they are doing. I wonder if they were thinking of including Dr. Facilier and the voodoo elements and then a focus group or some internal data told them it was a dangerous road to pursue, so in an effort to be squeaky clean and offend no one they are caught with no story to tell and no clue how to move forward. Missing ingredients. Big yawn. But they sang TWO songs and literally told us nothing. Weird...

2. Figment- This still hurts. They have to know that the current ride is poorly received, and yet they do nothing to fix it. They bring him out for merchandise, but that's it. Even the way the announcement yesterday was structured made it seem like they were announcing a ride reno and then they stuck us with a meet and greet character/experience. This is intentional. I feel so disrespected as a fan.

3. Moana and Zootopia in AK: This was weird. If this is coming, then just announce it. Make it a firm announcement. I don't see how Moana really fits in AK, but it is such a great IP, and maybe they can make it work. Love the idea of a a log flume/water ride coming to AK. Zootopia. This one is difficult. I understand how many say it doesn't fit, but, hear me out, for the AVERAGE Disney guest, it fits perfectly. Animal Kingdom- a movie about animals. It's that simple. (I understand they are stand-ins for humans and therefore it does not fit the true concept for AK, but many will ignore that). What's interesting to me is the panel talked for 5 minutes about how the rides must fit the themes of the park, and then announced Moana and Zootopia.

4. Beyond Big Thunder- This seems too early to announce. I don't believe any of this is coming soon, or it will change drastically before it does. The take away- glad they are looking at this plot of land.

5. Epic Impact- Are most of us upset that DIS is doing so little because of the looming prospect of Epic Universe? I mean, for other D23 events there is no way they announced something huge every year. Like what did they have to talk about at the D23 events in the 90s? Maybe 1 big project? Is Disney justified to rest after the last few years (Disney Springs Renovation, Star Wars Land, NFL, Toy Story Land, Gondola project, Mickey's Railway, The new EPCOT projects, Rat, Guardians, Tron, new night shows, etc). Have we just been spoiled the last few years in thinking they should ALWAYS be announcing something huge? Just playing devil's advocate...

Thanks for listening to my random thoughts. =)

 

[Dan Deesnee]

Zootopia is a fantastic fit for AK and the people on stage understand why. They said it.

"We can take you through different biomes." - The amount of education they can do on animal environments, how they live there and survive, the differences and how it affected the animals development. Their is huge room for education based entertainment. Almost like highly themed zoo style attractions. Fake snow in tundra town, an "ice" wall to feel just how cold it can get, etc.