Rumor D23 Expo 2019 expected announcements

peter11435

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Yes, we do. Because not one of the antiZootopia people has made a valid point.

The theme has always been all over the place. Dinoland??? Everest??? That doesn't fit the save the animals crap that people preach about.

The first speech about Animal Kingdom park even brought up the imagined animals of Beastly Kingdom.
Actually they are all valid points that have been well explained by many.

The theme is not all over the place. It’s the most consistent theme of any Disney park. This just shows that you don’t understand the the theme of the park or the themes represented in Dinoland and Everest.

Nobody said imagined animals were a problem.
 

peter11435

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Beastly Kingdom (one of the originally planned lands at Animal Kingdom) had dancing gators and hippos in tutus, talking bats trying to steal gold, a dragon and a unicorn. But people have a problem with Zootopia.

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So you don’t know anything about Beastly Kingdom either. Got it.
 

peter11435

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People have said they are too human like. But that can be said about many Animal characters already at the park. Flik (who has only 4 appendages), the Yeti, Timon, Doug (UP), etc.
Yes, people have, Because they are too human like. Obviously the others you mentioned have been personified in many ways. But they are still animals living as animals dealing with the issues of animals.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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People have said they are too human like. But that can be said about many Animal characters already at the park. Flik (who has only 4 appendages), the Yeti, Timon, Doug (UP), etc.
Those characters all, through their use in their respective films (yeti excluded since he has none) and use in the parks, demonstrate and educate on principles of the animal world as the endgame of their personification.

The characters in Zootopia demonstrate and educate on principles of the human world as the endgame of their personification.

You could change the animals in Zootopia into people without changing the crux of their story, you'd simply be removing the metaphor. Not so with the other characters you've listed - that they are animals in fundamental to the stories they tell.
 

peter11435

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What about Dinoland? It is a human made dig site that was turned into a dino themed Carnival. A lot of the land is made up of goofy looking cartoon dinosaurs. That bare no resemblance to real dinosaurs.
What do you think the theme of animal kingdom is? And don’t post the dedication speech again because that’s not it. Dinoland (including the awful dinorama) fits just fine.
 

SCOTLORR

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Yes, but, to be fair . . . It’s universally agreed that it should have been built.

I see both points but I tend to lean towards Zootopia would be fine at the back of the park. Would I prefer South America? Yes, I would.
Maybe South America with a Rio show/ride? it's unlikely to get a brand new land without any IP presence, but I think a limited amount of Rio would be a happy compromise for both sides of the IP debate. Although it's not much of a debate anymore.
 

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