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Cuts coming to every area of parks and resorts - thanks to Shanghai and Paris
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Buried20KLeague
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Hope you're not on the monorail line... They've got a new fleet to buy, you know.
They've got you by the Mickey Ears, though. You and I know they could build a case for max increases that would pass legal muster. They'd tick a ton of people off... But what would they care? Really. Why would they care? You'll either keep paying your fees, or you won't... And they'll take your points back (with basically no cost into them) and re-sell them to the next sucker lined up at the DVC spaceship in Tomorrowland. They hold all the cards, and they know it. Class action suit? Eh. Offer everyone involed an AP for a year or maybe even two if they sign a release. You'd see the numbers in the suit fall off, and it would be at no "real" cost to TWDC.
I'm SOOOO glad I decided not to buy in about 10 years ago. I got all the paperwork. It was all on my dining room table, waiting to be signed. And I couldn't bring myself to do it. I know there are still some benefits that are worth it... But they've eroded all kinds of things, with more surely on the way.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Agree, It's already hit my DW's facebook groups and DW was asking if true I said unfortunately it appears to be the truth.
Buried20KLeague
Well-Known Member
Marvel, Lucasfilm, stock price, and major expansion of the cruise line are all things the general public will remember as his accomplishments. That's what they'll remember because that's what they'll be TOLD to remember. The rest, I think, will get lost in the noise.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Hope you're not on the monorail line... They've got a new fleet to buy, you know.
They've got you by the Mickey Ears, though. You and I know they could build a case for max increases that would pass legal muster. They'd tick a ton of people off... But what would they care? Really. Why would they care? You'll either keep paying your fees, or you won't... And they'll take your points back (with basically no cost into them) and re-sell them to the next sucker lined up at the DVC spaceship in Tomorrowland. They hold all the cards, and they know it. Class action suit? Eh. Offer everyone involed an AP for a year or maybe even two if they sign a release. You'd see the numbers in the suit fall off, and it would be at no "real" cost to TWDC.
I'm SOOOO glad I decided not to buy in about 10 years ago. I got all the paperwork. It was all on my dining room table, waiting to be signed. And I couldn't bring myself to do it. I know there are still some benefits that are worth it... But they've eroded all kinds of things, with more surely on the way.
Yes at least SOME are on the monorail line, But judging from the DVC's board's tone the AP's for a couple of years would not cut it, They want actual representation on the condo board and access to the full financials.
You've got some people who feel REALLY cheated and they've been members since the beginning of DVC they want their 'pound of flesh and tittle of blood' so to speak as they feel DVC is materially changing what they purchased so these are not people feeling buyers remorse for a recent buy at the Poly or GF (neither of which I own praise Finagle).
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Do you think the average american even KNOWS Disney bought Marvel?, The stock price I expect Iger soon will want people to forget about that especially the ones who bought at 119!, The only lasting thing I think for Iger in the eyes of the public will be Star Wars.
Buried20KLeague
Well-Known Member
I think quite a bit know Marvel is Disney now. Don't forget Iger's favorite word... SYNERGY! Marvel and Disney are getting stuffed into the same universes quite often now (Disney Infinity, for example). Kids see all of it lumped together. Same in the toy aisle. And the parents buy the stuff, so they see it.
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm sure the stock has been very profitable from when Iger took over till today... Even when he leaves there will be a huge increase overall even if there's a dip for the next 18 months or what have you. I mean, I hear you... And I would LIKE for you to be correct... I just think there's too much there to spin and the general public are sheep. Those couple things will win in the end. IMO.
SpaceMountain77
Well-Known Member
Is a 1-day Magic Kingdom theme park ticket really increasing to $125?
Anyone that watches Once Upon a Time, on ABC, knows that magic always comes at a price. Apparently, Magic now comes with a 20% increase.
Anyone that watches Once Upon a Time, on ABC, knows that magic always comes at a price. Apparently, Magic now comes with a 20% increase.
SYRIK2000
Well-Known Member
Only in the slow season
matt9112
Well-Known Member
It never laid eggs in this case....
matt9112
Well-Known Member
Not to derail but often both sides pray for God's assistance in war but god only seems to answer those with the best artillery. Maybe God is as materialistic as us?
rob0519
Well-Known Member
Completely shutting down a park that has 3 or 4 of the most popular attractions in the entire resort would not be a good idea. People are still flocking to this now half day park for those attractions and one or two shows. If you think the MK is overcrowded now, take all the people from HS and cram them in as well and see what you get.
JohnWD
Well-Known Member
Hope you're not on the monorail line... They've got a new fleet to buy, you know.
They've got you by the Mickey Ears, though. You and I know they could build a case for max increases that would pass legal muster. They'd tick a ton of people off... But what would they care? Really. Why would they care? You'll either keep paying your fees, or you won't... And they'll take your points back (with basically no cost into them) and re-sell them to the next sucker lined up at the DVC spaceship in Tomorrowland. They hold all the cards, and they know it. Class action suit? Eh. Offer everyone involed an AP for a year or maybe even two if they sign a release. You'd see the numbers in the suit fall off, and it would be at no "real" cost to TWDC.
I'm SOOOO glad I decided not to buy in about 10 years ago. I got all the paperwork. It was all on my dining room table, waiting to be signed. And I couldn't bring myself to do it. I know there are still some benefits that are worth it... But they've eroded all kinds of things, with more surely on the way.
This is why I love this thread! It's an obvious topic for posters to go to spread FUD!
matt9112
Well-Known Member
I agree due to pushing the problems with epcot and mgm down road has sort of created a perfect storm where they had been skirting by at a minimum already so any cut on top is directly felt. IMHO I don't think there are many cuts that can be made that don't really affect anything on stage. If they had been running full steam with Capex before and not stuck with two shells of parks they could have cut corners now to save money but they cut so much back in 2008 that there is very little left.
rob0519
Well-Known Member
I say this is the solution Disney needs. Jack up the maintenance fees as much as they possibly can. The DVC owners can't do a thing about it and the higher the fees go, the more difficult it will be for the current owners to unload their units. Win /Win for Disney. I'm sorry for the DVC owners, but as we watched the quality of the product go down over the last 10 years we decided that DVC wasn't for us just on the possibility of the ever increasing costs.
JohnWD
Well-Known Member
Great idea! Maybe Disney can retroactively raise the fees and in affect double, triple or more the fees! DVC owners are all rich aren't they?
HauntedMansionFLA
Well-Known Member
Is the Extra Magic Hours and "Free Dining Plan" going away too? If they are are making cuts, those might be coming next.
Mike S
Well-Known Member
Didn't even think of that but now I can see it happening.
All hail our fearless leader!!!