Chef Mickey
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The S&P 500 is down less than 6% YTD.
Again, it will be OK. Buy some more.
Also, back out inflation from 21-25.
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Again, it will be OK. Buy some more.
Also, back out inflation from 21-25.
Minnesota disney fan
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I agree. And the ever raising prices and diminishing offerings (IMO) have been a concern for a while now. And the prices just keep getting higher and higher all the while attractions keep breaking down at a higher rate than ever before. So, it's a combination of "things" that is causing the diminishing visitors to WDW. Let's not forget the higher prices for Everything we consumers purchase now, which bites into the entertainment budgets. Most people live on a set budget which is, IMO, getting harder to meet on every day purchases. There are a multitude of reasons WDW, and other parks, have diminishing visitors.
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Jrb1979
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Not everyone wants to go to WDW regardless of how my Central Florida and Buddy Dyer wishes.
Beg to differ. In 23’ , 140 million guests visited WDW and 57 million guests visited Universal. One can spin this anyway they wish but the premier destination in Orlando is Disney.
I can't speak for residents of other countries, but I can tell you this: as far as Canadian tourists go, there will be no "brief period" or "quickly diminishing boycotts". My fellow Canadians are digging their heels in hard, and for some, not even a change politically will entice them back-they are done vacationing south of the border for good. Will there still be some that visit, or back down from their initial stance? Of course, but it's not going to be the majority, and don't expect the numbers to rebound to what they once were any time soon-give it at least 3 years, 9 months.
There is a popular hotel in Fredericksburg VA that is popular with Canadians for a night stay over . It’s the halfway driving point to get to Orlando. They are feeling the effects of lack of Canadian visitors.I can't speak for residents of other countries, but I can tell you this: as far as Canadian tourists go, there will be no "brief period" or "quickly diminishing boycotts". My fellow Canadians are digging their heels in hard, and for some, not even a change politically will entice them back-they are done vacationing south of the border for good. Will there still be some that visit, or back down from their initial stance? Of course, but it's not going to be the majority, and don't expect the numbers to rebound to what they once were any time soon-give it at least 3 years, 9 months.
Yeah. Not political at all.
Disstevefan1
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Its interesting, "not even a change politically will entice them back".I can't speak for residents of other countries, but I can tell you this: as far as Canadian tourists go, there will be no "brief period" or "quickly diminishing boycotts". My fellow Canadians are digging their heels in hard, and for some, not even a change politically will entice them back-they are done vacationing south of the border for good. Will there still be some that visit, or back down from their initial stance? Of course, but it's not going to be the majority, and don't expect the numbers to rebound to what they once were any time soon-give it at least 3 years, 9 months.
So what does that mean?
A new unrelated dislike for USA or a new unrelated dislike for TWDC?
And what about EPIC? I presume a lot of Kiddos in Canada want to go to EPIC no matter what their parents feel.
Well there is always Universal Studios Japan
Andrew25
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I've been saying for a few years now that Orlando (overall, not just the parks specifically) was flirting with a price ceiling. Not just Disney, but Universal and all the other area hotels were raising prices to ridiculous highs to take advantage of post-Covid travel. Now, the entire area is flooded with discounts.
Housing market in Orlando is also turning down as of a few months ago. Lots of inventory and houses are discounted.
Housing market in Orlando is also turning down as of a few months ago. Lots of inventory and houses are discounted.
I'm just passing on the reasons that I've heard-literally people saying that it will be at least 4 years until they come back, and not once did I mention anyone specifically, or bring up any particular political ideology. None of what I stated is a personal opinion; they are the main reasons why the number of visitors to the US from Canada are declining.
Alot of people here feel a line was crossed in a way that they cannot ever overlook, forget or forgive.Its interesting, "not even a change politically will entice them back".
So what does that mean?
A new unrelated dislike for USA or a new unrelated dislike for TWDC?
And what about EPIC? I presume a lot of Kiddos in Canada want to go to EPIC no matter what their parents feel.
Well there is always Universal Studios Japan
Disstevefan1
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Are they simply waiting for most the projects to be completed at WDW?
I do agree, for the next few years with all the work being done at MK it’s not worth it.
No, it's definitely all related to politics, which would be bad to get into specifically here.
Disstevefan1
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I figured that, I was thrown off by other posts saying it wasn't.
Fact is, for whatever reasons, the next few years unit they open something new, now is the best time to skip WDW.
I feel sorry for the Canadian kiddos not being able to visit EPIC, but then again EPIC may be BETTER a few years down the road.
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I can't speak for residents of other countries, but I can tell you this: as far as Canadian tourists go, there will be no "brief period" or "quickly diminishing boycotts". My fellow Canadians are digging their heels in hard, and for some, not even a change politically will entice them back-they are done vacationing south of the border for good. Will there still be some that visit, or back down from their initial stance? Of course, but it's not going to be the majority, and don't expect the numbers to rebound to what they once were any time soon-give it at least 3 years, 9 months.
Not to get too deep in the woods but as an American that is sympathetic with the Canadian cause I am not sure that spamming every travel forum, hotel review site, reddit forum, etc. with how, as a Canadian, you will be boycotting the US is an effective strategy.
I've seen at least 100 posts similar to yours across various websites and the first 10 times I felt like, yeah, the politics of US Canada relations is bad and as an American I want to support Canada. The last 90 times it's becoming an annoyance.
Generally, when any side of an argument is so over the top (which is what I'm noticing with this Canadian reaction) the resolve to continue the boycott is much less than more subtle boycotts.
The US President was trying to influence the Canadian elections. He has succeeded in that, but not in the way that he thought he would. Once the Canadian elections are over and sanity returns (because there won't be an election to influence) I do expect the histrionics to abate and a lot of the resolve to continue the boycotts to end.
You're going to continue seeing those because social media is an echo chamber for any kind of strong opinion (this forum included). I'm happy you're sympathetic, but, as a Canadian, I can guarantee you that this won't be abating soon. The reasons I have for saying this are too specific and shouldn't be discussed here.
Edit: I would be happy to discuss further with anyone thru PM, just not in this open forum
Isn't the Canadian election today?
Maybe I'm wrong but I think that a lot of this noise will quiet down quickly after the election.
What many of your countryfolk are also doing is making it uncomfortable for Americans to want to travel to Canada. As long as this noise exists at the level it does today I would feel pretty uncomfortable visiting Canada.
willtravel
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The same can be said that the US does not want to vacation in Canada.
lazyboy97o
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It is current US policy to conquer Canada. But yeah, not buying goods or traveling is the hyperbolic activity.