Chef Mickey
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The S&P 500 is down less than 6% YTD.21’-25’ S&P rose 57%. From Jan 20, 25’ - present day S&P down 15%. Not a good way to begin the year.
Again, it will be OK. Buy some more.
Also, back out inflation from 21-25.
The S&P 500 is down less than 6% YTD.21’-25’ S&P rose 57%. From Jan 20, 25’ - present day S&P down 15%. Not a good way to begin the year.
I agree. And the ever raising prices and diminishing offerings (IMO) have been a concern for a while now. And the prices just keep getting higher and higher all the while attractions keep breaking down at a higher rate than ever before. So, it's a combination of "things" that is causing the diminishing visitors to WDW. Let's not forget the higher prices for Everything we consumers purchase now, which bites into the entertainment budgets. Most people live on a set budget which is, IMO, getting harder to meet on every day purchases. There are a multitude of reasons WDW, and other parks, have diminishing visitors.Prior to 2019 I would agree. Since then IMO things are a lot different. The biggest one being there is alternatives. While those parks don't have the Disney IP attached to them, there is a reason parks like Dollywood are ranked up there with Disney.
Kids today aren't enamored with Disney IP like most of us were growing up. Disney isn't going bankrupt or out of business but there dominance over everything is much smaller than it ever was in the past.
If some who have cash on hand want to invest on an upcoming booming industry - look into Artificial Intelligence. Sooner than later machines will replace humans in various roles. Bill Gates recently advised that in 10 years AI will replace many doctor and teacher roles. ROI and one can use that mad money to enjoy themselves at WDW !I agree. And the ever raising prices and diminishing offerings (IMO) have been a concern for a while now. And the prices just keep getting higher and higher all the while attractions keep breaking down at a higher rate than ever before. So, it's a combination of "things" that is causing the diminishing visitors to WDW. Let's not forget the higher prices for Everything we consumers purchase now, which bites into the entertainment budgets. Most people live on a set budget which is, IMO, getting harder to meet on every day purchases. There are a multitude of reasons WDW, and other parks, have diminishing visitors.
Not everyone wants to go to WDW regardless of how my Central Florida and Buddy Dyer wishes.If some who have cash on hand want to invest on an upcoming booming industry - look into Artificial Intelligence. Sooner than later machines will replace humans in various roles. Bill Gates recently advised that in 10 years AI will replace many doctor and teacher roles. ROI and one can use that mad money to enjoy themselves at WDW !
Beg to differ. In 23’ , 140 million guests visited WDW and 57 million guests visited Universal. One can spin this anyway they wish but the premier destination in Orlando is Disney.Not everyone wants to go to WDW regardless of how my Central Florida and Buddy Dyer wishes.
IMO, all these "trends" always end up being relatively temporary. The resolve goes away after a short bit. So sure, it may impact for brief period, then it will come back. Probably stronger than before.
I can't speak for residents of other countries, but I can tell you this: as far as Canadian tourists go, there will be no "brief period" or "quickly diminishing boycotts". My fellow Canadians are digging their heels in hard, and for some, not even a change politically will entice them back-they are done vacationing south of the border for good. Will there still be some that visit, or back down from their initial stance? Of course, but it's not going to be the majority, and don't expect the numbers to rebound to what they once were any time soonI will try to keep this as non-political as possible.
I was at the parks last week and I noticed a wide variety of visitors. Most of the foreign tourists appeared to be from Central and South America but there were sizeable numbers of Europeans (Brits, Swiss, Germans) as well as a sizeable amount of Australians.
What normally happens in these types of situations is that there is a loud and forceful boycott at first that quickly diminishes.
Disney will probably do what anyone would do in this situation and that would be to offer bigger discounts / travel packages to those in the areas where it is noticing a steep drop in travelers in order to stimulate demand.
There is a popular hotel in Fredericksburg VA that is popular with Canadians for a night stay over . It’s the halfway driving point to get to Orlando. They are feeling the effects of lack of Canadian visitors.I can't speak for residents of other countries, but I can tell you this: as far as Canadian tourists go, there will be no "brief period" or "quickly diminishing boycotts". My fellow Canadians are digging their heels in hard, and for some, not even a change politically will entice them back-they are done vacationing south of the border for good. Will there still be some that visit, or back down from their initial stance? Of course, but it's not going to be the majority, and don't expect the numbers to rebound to what they once were any time soon-
Its interesting, "not even a change politically will entice them back".I can't speak for residents of other countries, but I can tell you this: as far as Canadian tourists go, there will be no "brief period" or "quickly diminishing boycotts". My fellow Canadians are digging their heels in hard, and for some, not even a change politically will entice them back-they are done vacationing south of the border for good. Will there still be some that visit, or back down from their initial stance? Of course, but it's not going to be the majority, and don't expect the numbers to rebound to what they once were any time soon-
I agree. And the question is-what is Disney going to do to try to make up for the significant decrease in revenue? I'm sure we'll see some deals in the coming months, whether it's resorts, parks, or packages for both.I think we can all agree crowd levels will be down at WDW in the coming months and years because reasons.
Part of the reasons why property taxes are lower in FL is that millions of tourists come spend money and that’s a driver in keeping taxes lower. Thousands of jobs are directly and indirectly tied into the critical income generator of FL - tourism . Many will feel the effects in some sort of way. Has any airport have an announcement from the city Mayor welcoming you to their city? ( aka Mayor Buddy Dyer of Orlando welcoming spiel on the MCO tram ride from Terminal A/B to get to the main terminal ).Its interesting, "not even a change politically will entice them back".
So what does that mean?
A new unrelated dislike for USA or a new unrelated dislike for TWDC?
And what about EPIC? I presume a lot of Kiddos in Canada want to go to EPIC no matter what their parents feel.
Well there is always Universal Studios Japan![]()
Less tourists not all staff needed on payroll.I agree. And the question is-what is Disney going to do to try to make up for the significant decrease in revenue? I'm sure we'll see some deals in the coming months, whether it's resorts, parks, or packages for both.
If they go down that road, that would probably mean certain restaurants and even attractions would be open on a part-time basis only.Less tourists not all staff needed on payroll.
Mayor Buddy Dyer does this? That's GREAT!!Part of the reasons why property taxes are lower in FL is that millions of tourists come spend money and that’s a driver in keeping taxes lower. Thousands of jobs are directly and indirectly tied into the critical income generator of FL - tourism . Many will feel the effects in some sort of way. Has any airport have an announcement from the city Mayor welcoming you to their city? ( aka Mayor Buddy Dyer of Orlando welcoming spiel on the MCO tram ride from Terminal A/B to get to the main terminal ).
I recall after 9/11/01 at MGM , Prime Time was open on even days and Hollywood and Vine was open on odd days, Fantasmic showed a few days a week .If they go down that road, that would probably mean certain restaurants and even attractions would be open on a part-time basis only.
We cant possibly compare now to 9/11I recall after 9/11/01 at MGM , Prime Time was open on even days and Hollywood and Vine was open on odd days, Fantasmic showed a few days a week .
I seem to recall many moons ago Boston's Logan Airport had welcoming spiels from Mayor (at the time) Tom Menino. I haven't been there lately to see if they still do this with the current mayor.Part of the reasons why property taxes are lower in FL is that millions of tourists come spend money and that’s a driver in keeping taxes lower. Thousands of jobs are directly and indirectly tied into the critical income generator of FL - tourism . Many will feel the effects in some sort of way. Has any airport have an announcement from the city Mayor welcoming you to their city? ( aka Mayor Buddy Dyer of Orlando welcoming spiel on the MCO tram ride from Terminal A/B to get to the main terminal ).
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