CTX/Dinosaur layout vs. DL Indy layout???

[Jerm]

I love that I can ask for one thing and get a full history lession Thanks guys.

J

 

[Rob562]

The DAK maintainence bay has a switchback not built at DLC (to the right of the building - not to be confused with the northern service area at DLC)

It also comes down to EMV programming; how two identical ride paths can feel so different. Plus of course the sets and effects. If Dinosaur had all it`s effects working it`d be a different attraction - for example it had the largest smoke effect installation ever designed by WDI!

The reason they are clones is DLCs Indy as built was in final development around 1993 - DAKs Dinosaur Safari was originally outdoors. Eisner wanted it moved indoors, and the opportunity arose to save R&D by taking the Anaheim design - whilst still at early an enough stage to modify the attraction into CTX. There`s also evidence the layout was intended to be installed in Disney MGM Europe, in the Gangster Shoot Out EMV dark ride (also known as the D ick Tracey EMV) - in design at the same time as Indy. Another possible link is the D ick Tracey Crimestoppers originally planned for Sunset Blvd in Orlando - again in design at the same time (and with a very similar name and concept as the DMGME attraction)

All of these can be tracked back to the late 80`s first generation EMV attraction designed for DLP to replace the Jungle Cruise - a design also to include what became the Temple of Peril Rollercoaster. EDLSCA ran out of money, and so the design was taken to Anaheim, where the coaster section was removed but the EMV developed more to the second generation design finally used.

And that concludes todays EMV history lesson....

I also believe one additional benefit to identical tracks is that WDI was able to test out CTX's vehicles (and I'm sure also do some rough programming) while they were still in California and the CTX building was still under construction in Florida.

-Rob

 

[marni1971]

Rob, do you happen to know which version uses what pumping system? As I understand it, DLC and DAK use hydraulic fluid, but TDS upgraded to compressed air to stop the leak issues?

 

[darthjohnny]

The DAK maintainence bay has a switchback not built at DLC (to the right of the building - not to be confused with the northern service area at DLC)

It also comes down to EMV programming; how two identical ride paths can feel so different. Plus of course the sets and effects. If Dinosaur had all it`s effects working it`d be a different attraction - for example it had the largest smoke effect installation ever designed by WDI!

The reason they are clones is DLCs Indy as built was in final development around 1993 - DAKs Dinosaur Safari was originally outdoors. Eisner wanted it moved indoors, and the opportunity arose to save R&D by taking the Anaheim design - whilst still at early an enough stage to modify the attraction into CTX. There`s also evidence the layout was intended to be installed in Disney MGM Europe, in the Gangster Shoot Out EMV dark ride (also known as the D ick Tracey EMV) - in design at the same time as Indy. Another possible link is the D ick Tracey Crimestoppers originally planned for Sunset Blvd in Orlando - again in design at the same time (and with a very similar name and concept as the DMGME attraction)

All of these can be tracked back to the late 80`s first generation EMV attraction designed for DLP to replace the Jungle Cruise - a design also to include what became the Temple of Peril Rollercoaster. EDLSCA ran out of money, and so the design was taken to Anaheim, where the coaster section was removed but the EMV developed more to the second generation design finally used.

And that concludes todays EMV history lesson....

It's very cheap to not design another track layout. Dinosaur and Indy aren't the only rides to have similar layouts. Disney has done that plenty of times.

I believe Mullhulond Madness and Primeval Whirl have smilar layouts as well.

 

[sanctumsolitude]

On my first time riding CTX I remember looking over at the big dinosaur where they take your picture, then looking straight ahead and seeing a giant flash.

Sure enough, when we went to look at our picture everyone else was looking off to the left and I was staring right at the camera with a goofy grin on my face. I felt really dumb.

 

[marni1971]

It's very cheap to not design another track layout. Dinosaur and Indy aren't the only rides to have similar layouts. Disney has done that plenty of times.

I believe Mullhulond Madness and Primeval Whirl have smilar layouts as well.

Indeed - every Haunted Mansion has the same ride track layout. Including Phantom Manor. Only differences are the DLC load/unload spur. BTMRR in Orlando, Tokyo and (yes) DLP are 75% identical.

 

[Jerm]

Indeed - every Haunted Mansion has the same ride track layout. Including Phantom Manor.

Not so much on this one. I have only been on DL and MK but the one here at DL does not have the library and the track is longer at MK. If you look at DL HM as soon as you go out of the graveyard past the mirrors you pull right into the exit, but at MK you go past everything that is in our queue here at DL.

J

 

[marni1971]

Not so much on this one. I have only been on DL and MK but the one here at DL does not have the library and the track is longer at MK. If you look at DL HM as soon as you go out of the graveyard past the mirrors you pull right into the exit, but at MK you go past everything that is in our queue here at DL.

J

Nope - ride track layout. As mentioned earlier, apart from the load/unload spurs, they are the same. Take a look: