Crying Children and lots of walking - My First Trip Report (Lengthy Read)

So here we have it my first trip report: Let's get to it, shall we? Photos will be put in later, just need to get the text out before my brain turns back to work mode...

Bio: It's a great two person trip consisting of myself and my better half...Both of us have been to Disney many times over the years but this was my first time back since 2007. A long time from the mouse leaves a revisionist history in your mind of how the parks used to be.

Friday October 12th:

Finally, officially on vacation, I can sleep all day while the DGF is at work. We hit the road at 3PM and start the long tedious drive from Virginia to see the Mouse. By the time we hit 1AM, I can't drive any more and find a hotel north of Jacksonville. We would have made far better time if not for some horrible traffic on I-95 south of DC and north of Richmond.

Saturday October 13th:

Morning! Let's get driving....breeze past Jacksonville, hit the I-4 and finally my favorite place! Arrive at the Beach & Yacht club and it's all smooth sailing. Toss the valet my key, let the bag guy grab the bags and it's off to the front desk.

The CM at the desk (can't remember her name) was very nice. She attended the same college as I and commented on my shirt with the logo. She gets us our stuff (or what I thought should have been all of it...) and we get to our room for a quick shower. Time from leaving the car to being in the room? Less than 15 minutes. Initial thoughts on the room: Very nice, great view, excellent location. I can not see myself staying at another resort after my time at Beach Club. I'd consider The Boardwalk but other than that this is the one to beat.

Take a quick trip to the Captains Grille for lunch. It was arguably one of my favorite meals during the stay. Had some fresh cut sea salt & vinegar fries and a lobster roll. The lobster roll was really good and it vanished from my plate in moments. The GF got the crab-cakes and something else (can't remember right now) but it was good.

After all of that we could finally head over to EPCOT. Best part of staying at the Beach Club, the quick 5 minute walk over to the World Showcase. Head through the gate and are in awe of all the locals and college aged kids enjoying the Food & Wine Festival.

We decide to walk around a bit, get some photo pass stuff done and hit up a few rides before our dinner in Germany. Did the buffet and enjoyed the entertainment. As it was a buffet, nothing really needs to be said. Our time at the park that day was good; however, after driving so much the last few days we are tired and are back to the room before Illuminations. Never did see Illuminations during our stay; however, it's not the end of the world.

Sunday October 14th:
This is the day I was looking forward to the most. Today would be the Keys To The Kingdom Tour. I had heard from some people that the tour would depend on the quality of the CM.

I didn't want to get there late and have to deal with any issues, so we snagged a Taxi over to the Ticket & Transportation Center and from there hit the boat to the park (since the monorail wasn't running). We saw the long long of people outside the park waiting to get in and we just walked to the far left turn-style and enjoyed the quiet. With 15 minutes before the start of the tour, we took a few photos and just enjoyed the emptiness of main street.

We had an older lady but what she lacked in youth she made up for in knowledge. I'm not as big of a buff as some of you people - so seeing some of the early stuff was cool to me. Got to ride a few of the rides with no guests on them as well. The Utilidors? I had such weird visions in my head of what they'd look like - it wasn't what I thought but not in a bad way. After that tour, all I could see through the park were lightning rods. This tour was everything I hoped for and then some. In fact, I'd probably do the tour again in a few years if given the opportunity.

Things to note from the tour as explained by our CM:

1. Yeti will NEVER be fixed. According to the person, the Yeti will never ever be fixed. It will forever be Disco Yeti and it's just the way it goes. They won't shut down their main E-Ticket ride to fix yeti because its such a draw for the park.

2. Avatarland - This CM told me it's not happening (contrary to what every other CM told me. So take it for what it's worth....Her reason was Cameron is impossible to work with and is a total control freak). Oddly enough another CM told me they were about to break ground begining of '13 and they were ready to move really fast on it.

3. Carsland - It makes sense and the word is some people were checking it out not too long ago. But right now there are no real solid plans.....

After our tour was over - we made our way over to Hollywood Studios for our Dinner at the Brown Derby. This is my kind of food and my kind of place. The seating wasn't too cramped and there weren't many small children and it all was tasty.

I had the following: Andouille-crusted Prawn ; Duck Two-Ways and the Citrus Honey Nest. All very tasty, the presentations were good and the timing of the dishes didn't feel rushed. I'd go back there again and recommend it to everyone. One odd note, they felt compelled to mention to me how the duck would be in regards to temprature. I'm guessing some guests didn't know how it should be and got confused that their food was "cold".

Followed up dinner with Fantasmic, some EMH and a trip back to the room. Oddly enough it was the worst rendition of the Great Movie Ride in the 15+ times I've gone on it over the years. The one later in the trip was a lot better...but this one was a female thief with a really bad accent that changed 3 times during the presentation. But hey, what can you do? Not every movie can be great.

Monday, October 15th:

Another day and another tour. This would be the Backstage Safari Tour. No where close to the quality of the Keys to The Kingdom; however, I think it's just because the bar was set so high early on. It was a cool tour but I wouldn't go out of my way to do it. The other one they have might pique my interests a bit more.

After the tour, we hit up Yeti and a few other things. But my gosh it was so hot - so we left the park, went back to the room to freshen up and take a breather and then head on over to EPCOT for dinner.

Diner was a trip to Tutto Italia. The food was great, but I felt that the waiter was really trying to push drinks and other high end items to inflate his tip. The service wasn't rushed but it wasn't great either. Thankfully the food made up for it and we were happy. I noticed a couple to the left of us complain over the "recommended tip" portion of the bill and started to go on some rant about how they weren't going to tip because of the "recommended tip".

Tuesday, October 16th:

Finally! A day we can relax and just do whatever. No tours, no plans, no nothing. After waking up and heading over to the Magic Kingdom we decided to head over to the Crystal Palace and see if any walk-ins were being taken for breakfast. They were! So we got our grub on and I got to see my favorite character: Tigger.

This is when my hatred for the fat people really started to hit home. So many people in these carts gnoshing on turkey legs. I ask the question in jest, "Are they fat because of the scooter or do they use the scooter because they are fat?" Either way, it's not plesant.

Between the new Fantasy Land having a soft opening and the collectible card game being so addictive, plans were thrown out the window. Rides were ridden of course, such as Splash Mountain but I felt we did a bit more card games and fantasy land than initially planned. Story Time with Belle, eh it was OK - maybe it's because I just wasn't feeling it but then again maybe I was just grumpy. The mine cars will be cool when done, no doubt.

Now though, it was time to get to Fultons Crabhouse for dinner prior to Cirque Du Soleil. Dinner at Fultons was amazing. I got myself a whole lobster and some crab-legs. It was my first time ever eating a whole lobster, so it was an adventure. The GF got the king crab legs and I wish she had had a hammer or something. Those buggers are hard to open (FIRST world problems).

Now to the first major SNAFU of the trip. We had seats for Cirque Du Soleil; however, we were to pick them up at will-call. They were already paid for; however, upon getting there we found out that our packet when we arrived at the hotel should have included a plastic card that had the tickets on them and had the proof of payment attached to it. Well, we didn't have it and they didn't know what was going on. Back and forth I went with the Manager for nearly 40 minutes before cooler heads prevailed and it was all sorted out......Thankfully it all went OK and we saw the show. A bit too artsy at times for me, but I enjoyed it very much.

Walked around downtown Disney a bit and then hopped a bus back to the hotel. I really miss Pleasure Island - It just seems like it's needed. Alas, it's been replaced by fancy shops and food places. I just want a comedy club, that's all....


Wednesday, October 17th:

Today is going to be a good day. We start off with a nice character Breakfast at the hotel. The food was good and the characters were doing a solid job. However, that's not the part of the day I was looking forward to.

After eating, it was off to the Boardwalk for a massage. 50 minutes of uninterupted quiet. Worth every penny. I think every 3-4 months I'm going to go and get one. Just takes all the stress and cares away.

After this it was back to EPCOT! A few more rides and more of the world showcase. Dinner was at Chef De France. Now initially it was to be at Bistro De Paris - The one upstairs; however it was under renovation.

Some people gave me the vibe that this meal might not be that great; however, it was! Remy comes out during the meal and the atmosphere was nice as there were no crying children. The food was what I wanted and I left full - wishing I had room for more. I ended up getting the patte, the short-ribs and then some Creme Brulee. DGF got the escargots, the half-chicken and the mousse.

At this point of the report - I'm realizing all of the days start to blend together. I remember going in shops, drinking drinks, riding rides but can't remember which things at which times. The food I remember, but that's becasue I have the pre-trip in front of me.

Thursday, October 18th:
Today is the day of the Not So Scary Halloween Party, this will be fun. We have a breakfast over in EPCOT with the princesses, not my bag but the GF loves all the characters so you do what you do.

Followed that up with some more world showcase and food & wine. Walked around a bit - but once again it's really hot. Head back to the room to get changed for the party. We arrive at the Kingdom and it's off to dinner at Liberty Tree Tavern - you know what you're going to get so no surprises. Eat the dinner and then hightail it to Splash Mountain so we can get in line to see the Dwarves. The word on the street was the line could get quite long. Thankfully we were about 6th in the queue at this point, were able to sit down and wait until the dwarves came out. Also, spent a long chunk of the time chatting it up with other guests....Generally I don't do this - but I made an exception.

Caught HalloWishes as well as I had a DoleWhip Float from a nice spot to watch the fireworks. DGF doesn't normally dig the fireworks but she knew how much I enjoy them so we compromised.

On the way home though, I got a bit grumpy. We got to the queue for the Yacht & Beach about 10 minutes before park closed. At this time there were only a few people ahead of us. Several minutes went by and the long line started to form as people were leaving. About a minute before the bus came - a family with a large family member in a scooter hovered to the handicap entrance and waited. The bus arrived and immediately the fat man in the scooter felt entitled to being right on that bus and the long line of people was irrelevant to his needs.

The bus used its sweet hydrolics and lowered itself into position. Seating for four was folded up so the scooter could move in. Then due to rules of the bus, the man had to sit in a seat (he took up 2 full seats) then his family boarded and took up another 3. So this portly fellow took up standing room, sitting room and just made things an annoyance. The bus was full to the brim, standing room only and others were forced to watch the bus drive away despite being there before this jolly man in the red scooter.

Friday, October 19th:
This is our last day in the land of a million hidden mickeys'....Unfortunately it would also be the day with the worst meal. We spent the early part of the day over in Hollywood Studios and hit up some of the rides. Great Movie Ride with an excellent cast. Checked out the Beauty & The Best Show and then hit up Rockin' Roller Coaster & Star Wars.

Spent an hour getting the rundown on DVC and then took the free lift back to the hotel so we could get ready for dinner at Le Cellier Steakhouse. Small note on DVC, I'm really interested - just have to crunch the numbers and see if it makes sense. I forsee spending many years there if I'm lucky enough to be blessed with kids.

I was really looking forward to this meal. I had been looking forward to a good steak, fine wine and desert. Alas, it wasn't meant to be and I should have made reservations at Victoria & Alberts or California Grille or even McDonalds.

The first signs of trouble were from the moment we arrived. Walking towards Canada we noticed a monumental number of strollers. I thought, oh maybe parents are watching that movie or something....maybe there is some ride I don't know of. There is no way they'd take their infant children here, right? Considering it's 2 table credits and the price of the menu if you're not on the DDP gave me false assurances that I'd have a nice quiet evening.

We arrive and check in and sit in the lobby for a few minutes before we are taken to our table. The lighting was dim but not in the way you'd want of a nice steakhouse. The vision in their mind was probably quiet/romantic/etc. Then walking to our table we notice how close the seats are to one another. The booths are way on top of each other and you have a really crowded feel, not something of an intimate setting or something you'd get at a nice chophouse. I really have no desire to be a part of someone elses conversation let alone hear it.

However, I can overlook that if the food is really good and the rest of the atmopshere is nice. But this would be the least of our worries.

Upon sitting down I notice a few tables over is a small infant, less than a year old most likely. I then notice a few other tables where I can see small infant children. Immediately after that, my ears hear something I haven't heard the whole trip...the sound of crying. "WAHHHH!!!!!" went the small children unhappy to be where they were.

The parents seemed ignorant and nose deaf to their surroundings. Hoping that the crying would stop - we ordered our apatizers. Both of us got the soup that everyone raves of, along with the pretzel bread that was given good reviews. They met my expectations and were tasty....but that would be the last apatizing part of the meal.

As we waited for our entrees to come out (me: Le Cellier Mushroom Filet Mignon ; dgf: Grilled Bone-in Ribeye both medium-rare) the crying continued. At this point you'd notice patrons attempt to talk over the crying, which resulted in the accoustics of the place to go horiblly awry. Crying children has been replaced by crying children and shouting adults. Right before our entrees arived a couple seated near us left and I heard one murmor something along the lines of children crying the entire time.....

Entry comes out and the plate is hot and the food looks good; but it wasn't up to par. The steak placed in front of me was hot throughout with a light-pink hue. The center of the steak was browned....the steak had a nice char on the outside but was not soft in the middle. The medium-rare steak was medium. The wild mushroom risotto, white truffle butter sauce and micro chervil provided a moisture and flavor to the steak that would have been lacking without. Unfortunately my appetite was rapidly disapating as a newly placed infant to my left and a 5 year old in the corner both approached meltdown modes of that which would rival Chernobyl.

Disgusted we asked the waiter for our bill and proceeded to leave while opting to skip desert. We ended up going back to the magic kingdom to walk around, grab another dole whip, watch the fireworks and stay till the end of magic hours. Upon arriving back at the hotel we burned up the last of our meal points on room service and finished packing.

We then spent a good 8 hours at Universal and tried the butter beer before the long drive home. Butter beer was leaps and bounds ahead of the Le Fous brew.

Final Notes: The whole SNAFU with the Cirque was made right by guest relations. Without even asking, they sent me an e-mail apologizing for the situation and remedied it in a way above and beyond what I thought should be done.

Children under a certain age should not be in certain restaurants. Or a dress code should be put in place. You as a parent chose to have a crying snot-bag, so you can accept the results of the actions and have a burger or chicken fingers. Let the adults enjoy a nice meal.

Some people are just rude and some people are always quiet pleasant. The best part of the trip was a couple from overseas we befriended in the queue and asked if Americans really go to Wal-Mart in their pajamas.
 

sweetpee_1993

Well-Known Member
All signature restaurants are supposed to be business casual attire, but you see people in there wearing wife beaters and hats along with there dress cut-off shorts. I enjoy dressing up to go out for a meal. I makes it more of a special occasion and then you walk into California Grill all dressed-up expecting to drop a wad of money on dinner and drinks with your sweetheart and next to you is Cousin Eddy and family from Lampoon's Vacation. There needs to be some sense of control. If there is a policy then it should be honored and controlled.

This was our experience at the Yachtsman for our anniversary in Sept. 2011.
 

NiarrNDisney

Well-Known Member
All signature restaurants are supposed to be business casual attire, but you see people in there wearing wife beaters and hats along with there dress cut-off shorts. I enjoy dressing up to go out for a meal. I makes it more of a special occasion and then you walk into California Grill all dressed-up expecting to drop a wad of money on dinner and drinks with your sweetheart and next to you is Cousin Eddy and family from Lampoon's Vacation. There needs to be some sense of control. If there is a policy then it should be honored and controlled.

Personally I feel that other restaurants on propertyt should also be adult only and or have a separate dining room for those wanting a more grown up meal!
I too enjoy dressing up, I work and have worked in the PR nightlife industry and dressing up is a part of the job!
 

ArielLover

Active Member
After reading this, I was not going to comment but I just can't resist. I do not know the original poster and not sure exactly his mind set but I am going to take the liberty of some interpretation.

The scooter thing - poor choice of words on the "fat person" in the scooter but I think the annoyance revolves around the "cutting in line" concept. I begrudge no one the use of a scooter, it is not for me to determine whether they need the use of it or not. I feel the pain though of waiting for a bus and watching someone in a scooter come up as the bus approaches and basically cut in front of 50+ other people. There should be some parity here just like they do with the attraction lines.

As for the screaming kids, my wife and go and we have no children. We understand that we are in Disney and there will be children everywhere. However some common courtesy should prevail. I would expect any parent to understand no other patrons want to pay $100+ for a meal and have to sit through it listening to a crying child. Either take the child outside or understand your child's limitations before booking the restaurant. Just for perspective, just because we go without children, does not mean I do not have any, mine just happen to be adults now so I do speak from experience.

To the original poster - glad you had a good time - and even though I feel your pain and you should be allowed to express it, remember that your choice of words can hit a nerve.

Joe
 

harveyt0206

Well-Known Member
I am glad you enjoyed your trip and it sounds like you did some really fun things. We loved both Keys To The Kingdom and Cirque. They are unique Disney experiences.

As for your comments regarding the over weight person using a scooter, I am one of those people who believes you have a right to your opinion, but as someone who is " fat", that word is hurtful. I really wish I was a size 2, but I'm not. I hope I never have to use a scooter due to health issues, but if I do, I also hope that I have compassionate fellow Disney travelers.

I am trying through diet an exercise to change my weight, but so far it is very slow going. I don't mean to hijack your trip report, so I will leave my thoughts at that and say that I am glad there were some really great moments during your trip and that hopefully that will be what you remember most. :-)
 

javy2004

Active Member
i can understand what he means with the overweight ppl going to town on a turkey leg (doing a quick search, they appear to be 1000-1100 calories, yikes!). i think his wording wasn't the best. working in food service from fast food and snack stands at a six flags during my high school years, to waiting tables at steakhouses, i just feel straight bad seeing someone on the extreme morbid obesity level eating food like this. serving a 20 oz ribeye to a guy tipping 350+ lbs makes me feel like i'm taking part in this guy killing himself. I been a really heavy guy (tipping 320 at my worst) and when i would eat unhealthy like that, it was a pretty shameful thing for me. it'd be me usually bringing the food home with me so no one would see how much i was eating and how bad it was for me. i don't know how anyone does it. the only thing that made me feel worse in my food service days was serving a woman who was not close to full term, but very much pregnant, 3 glasses of wine during her meal.

as far as the crying children, i feel so bad for my parents bc i was one of the snotty kids who cried and threw tantrums, although i got some well deserved spankings (my dad being a military man don't put up with that lol). it just comes with the territory of going to such a family and kid oriented resort (epcot included, although i would imagine lil ones would get rather bored there if they weren't tall enough for the exciting rides). a million reasons could come up as to why parents aren't disciplining their unruly kids, just hope its not straight negligence and they don't care for those around them having to endure such behavior. its just a roll of the dice, don't be surprised if it happens, and be happy when it doesn't :D

when i read about that couple from overseas asking about ppl in their jammys at wal-mart, i chuckled, dropped my head and shook it bc its true lol
 

Mrs. Jobson

Active Member
So if I have a "Snotty kid", I shouldn't go to a nice restaurant like Le Cellier? And if I am "Fat", I can't ride in a scooter and eat a Turkey Leg? Wow!!! I was enjoying your trip report before these things came up. I didn't care for your tone but thought it was very descriptive. I think next time you should choose your words wisely. I agree with others, your in Disney World. Get over it, there are kids around including mine! If my child were crying I would have left the room but would return to finish my meal that I payed for just like you. Myself and my child have every right to be in a public place just like you do unless it is a designated restaurant like V&A. I also remember you referring to having children of your own. I really hope they don't come down with the croupe. Everything you try to do to get them to stop crying never works. Good luck with that!
 

ExtinctJenn

Well-Known Member
My only comment is this (because everyone else said what I was thinking)... I'm a "reformed" fat person (I've lost 35 pounds and have about 40 to go until I hit my goal). I eat healthy every day and excercise. I do it for me though, not for anyone else out there, least of all someone who doesn't know me and just looks me at me and assumes they know my life story. All that said... on our next trip to Disney I fully intend to chow down on a turkey leg and frankly fill my face at every turn. I'm going to pig out and enjoy myself because I'm on vacation. Someone who doesn't know I'm in the middle of a huge weight loss would probably look at me and think "look at that fat girl filling her face" and it'd be a very unfair thing for them to say/think because they don't know the whole story. They don't know how hard I'm working to lose the weight but how much I want to enjoy my vacation and go off the diet for awhile.

In other words, you can't look at someone who is overweight and assume you know their history. A 300 lb person you see in a scooter eating a turkey leg COULD BE someone who a year ago weighed 600 pounds and is celebrating their weight loss with a trip to WDW because before they couldn't even leave the house. The point is... you don't know. Even kindergarteners are taught not to judge a book by it's cover.
 

HouCuseChickie

Well-Known Member
The problem here is that OP isn't just saying someone is fat, he specifically states he has a hatred for them. He could care less how or why- he just hates them and that's pretty darn disturbing. While I'm sure a number of us would like to lose weight and would agree that there is a serious obesity problem in the US, the OP's use of the word "hatred" showcases another growing problem in this nation...a lack of humanity and overall common decency. Which is worse- to be overweight and kind-hearted or to be slender and sadistic?

As for the crying children, while I firmly believe all parents should teach their kids proper manners in restaurants (and really, it's never too early to start) - I also think you need to remember that you're on vacation at WDW. i.e. this is not like seeing a child at a local fine dining spot where the parents are clearly refining their dining behavior. It's not a total pass for poor behavior; however, I think it's delusional to think you're going to go into restaurants at WDW and not have at least some questionable behavior from some of the younger patrons. Some of this is also clearly utter lack of perspective from OP.
 

G00fyDad

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bubbles1812

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I sympathize 100% with the original poster. Sorry to be, like him, so frank. I understand there are some medical conditions that exacerbate gaining weight. But I have a brother who is a doctor, and he is of the opinion that MOST people with weight problems, no matter what their condition, could lose weight if they wanted to. They just don't. He's a pretty hard-nosed character who has no use for tact when he tells his overweight patients to get off their "fat butts" and exercise. For my part, it's kinda hard to be sympathetic when I'm standing in line for a bus and I've got seriously aching feet (because I WALKED through the parks, don'tcha know) and some guy or girl with generous proportions comes zipping up in a scooter and one has to wait until they're loaded on and of course their families get first dibs on seats too. After which I'M stuck standing in the bus on those aching feet. After that happens a few times during a trip, it kind of kills any kindly feelings I have for some guests.

As for taking infants and ill-parented kids to the nicer restaurants in WDW...parents, please. Please don't. It IS Disney World, but it's not the world's biggest day care center. Why do you think Disney banned kids from Victoria and Albert's? It's not hard to figure out.

First, I do wish those who are solely using the scooters just because of their weight would walk around, at least for some of their vacation. It's healthy exercise and easy to do at a place where there are so many distractions you can ignore that pain in your feet from walking so much.

But! I am a soon to be doctor, and no offense to your brother, but telling patients the way your brother seems to...that they just need to get off their fat butts rarely ever works and more than likely, creates a rift between his patients and himself. I'm not saying patients need to be coddled but essentially taking an antagonist "you fail" approach does nothing more than embarrass the patient. It does no good to make a patient feel so hopeless that they give up before they even start.

That being said, yes, most people could probably lose weight if they wanted to...but again, there are a whole host of things that go into that beyond just saying "go lose weight."

I am going to agree about bringing very young children into the nicer restaurants at WDW. I understand parents wanting a nicer meal than burgers and fries... and Disney has a wonderful baby sitting service that can be utilized for that very specific purpose. All the baby sitters are vetted fairly extensively I assume (can you imagine the shi* that would go down media wise if there was an incident with a baby sitter?) so I'd say it's pretty safe.

Obviously some still wouldn't be comfortable but I wish people then had the common courtesy to take their child out of the restaurant until they have calmed down. I'd say the same thing in other public places as well. I've seen parents just leave their kid screaming next to them at church, in the movies (where usually the movie is wholy inappropriate for the child anyways...why would anyone take their 4 year old to an R rated film?? and yet it happens), and the list goes on.

All that being said... the comments in the OP's post were at the least in poor taste and honestly beyond offensive at certain points. He comes off as a snob with a ridiculous amount of prejudice but I suppose there are unfortunately always such people in the world...emphasis again on the unfortunately.
 

rowheat

New Member
Right I looked at this report hoping for some nice tales and photos - stupid me- but I want you to think on this, you never know if you might end up as one of those fat people in a wheelchair ! The person could have an illness that can strike anyone young old, thin or fat, they could have had a car accident that has meant they can no longer exercise and as Turkey is one of the healthiest meats what is the problem ! My 12 year old son was perfectly healthy until he hit 10 when he developed bad symptoms from a joint illness, he looks perfectly healthy but hurts all the time - it is because of people like you that I am debating about whether to get a wheelchair and have the looks when he jumps out to go on a ride or know that we will manage the walking one day and then he will be in agony for 2 days after. I will admit to having thoughts about badly behaved kids myself, but since having a ill child myself I have been introduced to other illnesses like autism that can make the 'naughty kid' and the adult who parks in the disabled spot but 'looks fine' = So my advice is try to think of others kindly as it could be you or one of your relatives one day and would you not want compassion.
 

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