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[COVID-19] DCL Sailings Canceled

EOD K9

Well-Known Member
What's your preference? Want to be the first ship out? I'm not trying to be snarky. Genuinely curious how you feel about it.
We would obviously be the test group and I’m sure there will be hiccups. However, the ship will be the cleanest it’s been. If I need to wear a mask I’m ok with it. If they have a served buffet at Cabanas, I’ll be alright.
 
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MisterPenguin

Fully Pfizered!
Premium Member

Since March of last year, cruise ships carrying more than 250 people have been prohibited by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention from sailing in U.S. waters. To start again, they need to follow a complex process that, in some cases, involves simulated cruises designed to test Covid-19 protocols. Hundreds of thousands of frustrated and restless cruise fans have lined up to be guinea pigs....
On Tuesday, Royal Caribbean became the first cruise line to receive approval from the C.D.C. to conduct simulated voyages, which are planned for its Freedom of the Seas ship starting from Port Miami in Florida in late June....
Exactly how the cruise lines will return to operations in the United States remains unclear. Earlier this month, the C.D.C. said it would allow cruise lines to skip test voyages if they attest that 98 percent of the crew and 95 percent of passengers on board a cruise are fully vaccinated.
Several major cruise companies have already announced Alaska sailings starting in late July, which will require all passengers to prove that they are vaccinated. But in Florida, the cruise lines’ biggest U.S. departure point, recently enacted state law bans businesses from requiring proof of immunizations from people seeking to use their services.
Florida officials have said they will not exempt the cruise lines. If cruise companies decide to sail with a mix of vaccinated and non-vaccinated passengers, they will have to carry out simulation cruises with volunteers to test health and safety protocols....
The simulated voyages must be between two to seven days in length with at least one overnight stay, according to C.D.C. guidelines. They are required to test embarkation and disembarkation procedures, medical evacuations, onboard activities such as meal service and entertainment, recreational activities like fitness classes and swimming, and shore excursions.
All volunteers will be issued with a written notice advising them about the risks of participating in health and safety protocols that are unproved and untested in the United States.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
"Disney Cruise Line Important Travel Information
June 8, 2021

US & Canada Departures


The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently approved our application to conduct a simulation cruise aboard the Disney Dream on June 29. This is an important next step toward our gradual and responsible resumption of service in U.S. waters. While we continue to work closely with the CDC to refine our new health and safety protocols, it will take some time to bring our Crew back on board and prepare our ships to welcome Guests once again. Therefore, it is necessary for us to cancel Disney Dream departures through August 6, 2021, Disney Fantasy departures through August 28, 2021, Disney Wonder departures through September 19, 2021, and Disney Magic departures in the US through November 4, 2021.

Disney Magic Sailings

The Disney Magic will set sail in the United Kingdom for a limited time this summer on short voyages limited to UK residents, pending the issuance of UK Government guidelines and authorizations. Learn More

Guests booked on affected sailings, who have paid their reservation in full, will be offered the choice of a cruise credit to be used for a future sailing or a full refund. Guests, who have not paid their reservations in full, will automatically receive a refund of what they have paid so far. Affected Guests and travel agents will receive an email from Disney Cruise Line outlining details and next steps.

Guests who've booked their reservation through a travel agent should contact them directly with any questions. Those who have booked directly with Disney Cruise Line, and have questions after receiving their email, should call (866) 325-6685 or (407) 566-7797."

 

MotherofaPrincessLover

Well-Known Member
"Disney Cruise Line Important Travel Information
June 8, 2021

US & Canada Departures


The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently approved our application to conduct a simulation cruise aboard the Disney Dream on June 29. This is an important next step toward our gradual and responsible resumption of service in U.S. waters. While we continue to work closely with the CDC to refine our new health and safety protocols, it will take some time to bring our Crew back on board and prepare our ships to welcome Guests once again. Therefore, it is necessary for us to cancel Disney Dream departures through August 6, 2021, Disney Fantasy departures through August 28, 2021, Disney Wonder departures through September 19, 2021, and Disney Magic departures in the US through November 4, 2021.

Disney Magic Sailings

The Disney Magic will set sail in the United Kingdom for a limited time this summer on short voyages limited to UK residents, pending the issuance of UK Government guidelines and authorizations. Learn More

Guests booked on affected sailings, who have paid their reservation in full, will be offered the choice of a cruise credit to be used for a future sailing or a full refund. Guests, who have not paid their reservations in full, will automatically receive a refund of what they have paid so far. Affected Guests and travel agents will receive an email from Disney Cruise Line outlining details and next steps.

Guests who've booked their reservation through a travel agent should contact them directly with any questions. Those who have booked directly with Disney Cruise Line, and have questions after receiving their email, should call (866) 325-6685 or (407) 566-7797."

I was not expecting that.
 

jme

Well-Known Member
Florida officials have said they will not exempt the cruise lines. If cruise companies decide to sail with a mix of vaccinated and non-vaccinated passengers, they will have to carry out simulation cruises with volunteers to test health and safety protocols....
Since DCL is running simulated cruises out of Florida... then I guess this means they won't enforce vaccination requirements. They haven't publicly said one way or the other yet, but this pretty much says it for them. And yes, I'm aware that Florida currently is not allowing them to do so, but they could choose to not operate out of Florida until they can make that mandate. Just find it odd they haven't made a public statement yet.
 

MisterPenguin

Fully Pfizered!
Premium Member
Since DCL is running simulated cruises out of Florida... then I guess this means they won't enforce vaccination requirements. They haven't publicly said one way or the other yet, but this pretty much says it for them. And yes, I'm aware that Florida currently is not allowing them to do so, but they could choose to not operate out of Florida until they can make that mandate. Just find it odd they haven't made a public statement yet.
Yeah, the simulated/test runs means they don't have to ensure 95% of their customers are vaccinated.
 

Communicora

Premium Member
Yeah, the simulated/test runs means they don't have to ensure 95% of their customers are vaccinated.
They would likely have an impossible time meeting that threshold because of their focus on family cruisers. That said, I wish they'd enforce it for adults who don't have a legitimate medical reason for not getting one.
 

MisterPenguin

Fully Pfizered!
Premium Member
They would likely have an impossible time meeting that threshold because of their focus on family cruisers. That said, I wish they'd enforce it for adults who don't have a legitimate medical reason for not getting one.
I wonder if they could require everyone to take a rapid test (daily?), and those who are vaccinated can opt out by showing proof of vaccination.

This could be a sly way to get around the FL law. People aren't forced to show proof of vaccination, but, showing proof is optional to get out of the required daily testing.
 

aliceismad

Well-Known Member
I wonder if they could require everyone to take a rapid test (daily?), and those who are vaccinated can opt out by showing proof of vaccination.

This could be a sly way to get around the FL law. People aren't forced to show proof of vaccination, but, showing proof is optional to get out of the required daily testing.
I feel like daily rapid tests would be a PR nightmare though. Especially with kids involved. I don't know if they have easier tests now, but the swab up the nose is incredibly uncomfortable and unpleasant. Can you imagine Karen shouting at guest services because Little Johnny's brain is being damaged by covid probes?
 

EOD K9

Well-Known Member
I feel like daily rapid tests would be a PR nightmare though. Especially with kids involved. I don't know if they have easier tests now, but the swab up the nose is incredibly uncomfortable and unpleasant. Can you imagine Karen shouting at guest services because Little Johnny's brain is being damaged by covid probes?
The newest tests barely go up each nostril. The original tests nicked the base of your brain. COVID testing is not as bad as it was.
 

Surfin' Tuna

Well-Known Member
The newest tests barely go up each nostril. The original tests nicked the base of your brain. COVID testing is not as bad as it was.
I have to agree they are not nearly as bad as they once were, but I still think it would be difficult to test even some of the people daily. That being said, I think most of us would agree to almost anything to get back to cruising at this point.
 

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