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Rumor Country Bear Jamboree to be Replaced by Toy Story Show?
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Phicinfan
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Okay I will bite, so Bears, Birds and......?
Clover Bailey
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I saw some people emailing Disney and I sent an email to Bob Chapek. He didn't reply but I got this.
Dear Valued Guest,
Thank you for your message regarding the Walt Disney World Resort.
We truly appreciate your passion and interest for Country Bear Jamboree. Currently, we are focused on the new and exciting entertainment options coming to Epcot with Ratatouille and Guardians of the Galaxy, Disney’s Hollywood Studios with Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge and the Tron attraction at Magic Kingdom Park. We are also very excited about the opening of the Gran Destino Tower at Disney's Coronado Springs Resort in the very near future and the opening of Disney's Riviera Resort later this year. Please know when we receive comments from Guests, such as yours, they are shared with various areas of our organization. As always, we encourage you to check out the Disney Parks Blog for up-to-date information regarding our Parks and Resorts.
Our Guests' feedback, as well as their continued enthusiasm for our products and services, is very important to us. We genuinely appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts with us.
I think it's automated.
Dear Valued Guest,
Thank you for your message regarding the Walt Disney World Resort.
We truly appreciate your passion and interest for Country Bear Jamboree. Currently, we are focused on the new and exciting entertainment options coming to Epcot with Ratatouille and Guardians of the Galaxy, Disney’s Hollywood Studios with Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge and the Tron attraction at Magic Kingdom Park. We are also very excited about the opening of the Gran Destino Tower at Disney's Coronado Springs Resort in the very near future and the opening of Disney's Riviera Resort later this year. Please know when we receive comments from Guests, such as yours, they are shared with various areas of our organization. As always, we encourage you to check out the Disney Parks Blog for up-to-date information regarding our Parks and Resorts.
Our Guests' feedback, as well as their continued enthusiasm for our products and services, is very important to us. We genuinely appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts with us.
I think it's automated.
ToTBellHop
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It's not automated, but it is a form letter. Some kid had to break a sweat copying AND pasting.
Virtual Toad
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Before the modern era of metrics, algorithms and whatever else corporations use to "measure" guest satisfaction, all you had to do was observe how audiences reacted to your product.
Three classic WDW moments that almost always elicited genuine glee, laughter, and smiles:
1) The dog holding the keys to the jail cell at the end of Pirates.
2) The original hitchhiking ghosts effect in the Haunted Mansion. Seeing how others reacted to the ghosts was just as fun as seeing the ghosts in your own vehicle.
3) The moment the curtains part, revealing Big Al at the start of "Blood on the Saddle."
Decades from now, WDW's legacy will be judged not by how effectively executives leveraged the parks as a marketing tool, but by how, in its early years, it was a product of heartfelt creativity produced by a handful of artistic and storytelling geniuses who elevated themed entertainment to the level of near perfection that established the Disney standard.
A quote from the Walt Disney Family Museum website refers to work on the Haunted Mansion, but can easily be applied to classic Imagineering efforts as a whole: "One thing the Mansion clearly is, however, is one of the most popular and enduring attractions of the Disney parks—and a living legacy of Walt Disney’s ability to not only recognize creative geniuses, but to get them together to create something greater than the sum of its parts."
To continue to lose these moments is to continue to whittle away at what made WDW "Disney" in the first place. A Magic Kingdom without originality, without the moments of genuine charm brought to life by the true masters of the art form, risks further becoming a more cynical derivation of its former self. It risks becoming just another amusement park.
People may not admit it, or realize it, but in many ways a trip to WDW is a search for something we've collectively lost along the way. WDW may not be a museum-- but there are still classic works of art there that deserve our consideration, awe, and respect.
Three classic WDW moments that almost always elicited genuine glee, laughter, and smiles:
1) The dog holding the keys to the jail cell at the end of Pirates.
2) The original hitchhiking ghosts effect in the Haunted Mansion. Seeing how others reacted to the ghosts was just as fun as seeing the ghosts in your own vehicle.
3) The moment the curtains part, revealing Big Al at the start of "Blood on the Saddle."
Decades from now, WDW's legacy will be judged not by how effectively executives leveraged the parks as a marketing tool, but by how, in its early years, it was a product of heartfelt creativity produced by a handful of artistic and storytelling geniuses who elevated themed entertainment to the level of near perfection that established the Disney standard.
A quote from the Walt Disney Family Museum website refers to work on the Haunted Mansion, but can easily be applied to classic Imagineering efforts as a whole: "One thing the Mansion clearly is, however, is one of the most popular and enduring attractions of the Disney parks—and a living legacy of Walt Disney’s ability to not only recognize creative geniuses, but to get them together to create something greater than the sum of its parts."
To continue to lose these moments is to continue to whittle away at what made WDW "Disney" in the first place. A Magic Kingdom without originality, without the moments of genuine charm brought to life by the true masters of the art form, risks further becoming a more cynical derivation of its former self. It risks becoming just another amusement park.
People may not admit it, or realize it, but in many ways a trip to WDW is a search for something we've collectively lost along the way. WDW may not be a museum-- but there are still classic works of art there that deserve our consideration, awe, and respect.
ImperfectPixie
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Very well said.
This post deserves a quote for posterity. Well said.
No place for "creativity" these days. Synergy is where it's at. Numbers on spreadsheets and surveys dictate direction. Leveraging IP is what makes something "more timeless, more relevant, more family friendly, and more Disney" these days, not being "creative".
MuteSuperstar
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The saddest part of that is aside from the people running the company, we now clearly have a notable segment of guests who value the corporate side more than the creative side. That, plus the guests' dwindling attention spans and obsession with "new new new", means a perfect storm for taking a machete to classic attractions.
trainplane3
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Reminds me when I reached out to whoever was the CEO of Verizon Wireless. Similar copy and paste response. But at least someone from the "office of CEO XXXXX" called me directly the next day.
Motorola was shockingly refreshing. I got a response from Dennis Woodside within 2 hours, a phone call with Punit Soni, a call from executive support, and an offer to join the internship program. Now that was incredible. Too bad Motorola is kind of "meh" again.
Dennis and I actually spoke a few short times over email the following year. Talk about service.
Clover Bailey
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Which guests like the corporate side? Do you mean like people who go for Star Wars and Marvel?
MuteSuperstar
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No mainly about the people whose boilerplate response is "Disney is a business and is beholden to the shareholders" to any complaint about price hikes or ill-advised attraction changes. I am all for quality new stuff, but not at the expense of classics.
DeletedAccount55555
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I completely and utterly reject your millennial shaming. Blame the CEOs if you don't like their decisions.
Plus, it's Baby Boomers that ruined the world anyway.
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Remember: A few years ago, some sort of re-do for Tikis was rising as a likelihood and then fizzled.
Until our insiders characterize the bears and birds as projects moving forward, I wouldn't characterize these rumors as inevitable and probably not even likely.
I'm sure there's a lot of talk about incorporating more Toy Story everywhere since it has shown itself to be a long-lasting and profitable Disney hallmark. But lots of talk doesn't mean action. Especially since we know of so much money already allocated to other projects that are constantly in danger of budget cuts. So, what money is left for this rumor?
And, with regard to Toy Story everywhere: Welcome to this year's synergistic fan craze. Remember how everything was: Star Wars, Frozen, Pirates, Stitch, Lion King, Princesses?
Until our insiders characterize the bears and birds as projects moving forward, I wouldn't characterize these rumors as inevitable and probably not even likely.
I'm sure there's a lot of talk about incorporating more Toy Story everywhere since it has shown itself to be a long-lasting and profitable Disney hallmark. But lots of talk doesn't mean action. Especially since we know of so much money already allocated to other projects that are constantly in danger of budget cuts. So, what money is left for this rumor?
And, with regard to Toy Story everywhere: Welcome to this year's synergistic fan craze. Remember how everything was: Star Wars, Frozen, Pirates, Stitch, Lion King, Princesses?
The problem with any generation: Y, X, Millenmial, Boomer, etc... is the bad parenting of the generation before them.
ToTBellHop
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I would characterize this as being on more solid footing than you suggest but not set in stone. It's not even as likely as the Main Street Theatre once was. Yet. I suspect we will know one way or the other by Halloween (the holiday, not the time of year in Magic Kingdom that starts in like 3 weeks).
John park hopper
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No! only a certain segment of the baby boomers ruined the world
KBLovedDisney
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After having not read 38+ pages...
So, is this for real or what?
So, is this for real or what?
Clover Bailey
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I was going to say why I love Country Bear Jamboree, but I'm a member of the tide pod generation so I guess I don't understand a good attraction if it bit me in the face.
PJBuckeye
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- In the Parks
- Yes
Dinner show... I think that is the way to go. They could even convert it into a dinner show inside MK.
I also think the Tiki birds queue should be a bar/lounge (take out the Carpets to make room), and you would be able to take your beverage into the Tiki Birds. Might make the birds tolerable.
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