Could Time Keeper work as a replacement for SGE!

Figment632

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A lot of people hate this attraction and AE won't come back because of a select few mothers that complained that it was too scary.

Could TIme Keeper work as a replacement? There was not a lot of traffic there so I am not sure it would work.

I think Disney could kill two birds with on stone here. If the TK and 9-eye AA's still exist they could be upgraded and used here. Instead of standing an watching circle vision the guests could sit in the current theaters. TK would go in the center where Stich is now. 9-eye could be suspended from the cieling and they could install a circular crenn near the ceiling. There would be a new script and story to bring the attraction up to date.

I think it would be cool and taking the original TK to the next level by using current effects that SGE/AE theaters could offer and also new effects could be created.

Could this work and would you like to see it?
 

C&D

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Works for me; but I think it has as much chance as the proverbial "snowball's chance in Florida...............". :)
 

Figment632

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Works for me; but I think it has as much chance as the proverbial "snowball's chance...............". :)

Yea I know this but the only thing I can see going for it would be it's cheaper than gutting and building a totaly new ride.
 

jakeman

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Timekeeper would need a brand new film and a duplicate TK and 9-Eye built.

Also, while a great attraction, it held no interest for guest and was a walk on its last few years of seasonal existance.

You are talking about replacing something that is disliked by some, with something that is ignored by most.

SGE could work still, but it needs a massive budget and overhaul of pretty much everything but the AA's.
 

Figment632

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Timekeeper would need a brand new film and a duplicate TK and 9-Eye built.

Also, while a great attraction, it held no interest for guest and was a walk on its last few years of seasonal existance.

You are talking about replacing something that is disliked by some, with something that is ignored by most.

SGE could work still, but it needs a massive budget and overhaul of pretty much everything but the AA's.

Yea I didn't think about that so the cost would be more than I anticipated. If it were done well I think it could work.

Yea I loved TK but if it had a great script an some kind of new affect, and was also marketed right it could work.

Your posts usually get me to see the whole picture so thanks :wave:
 

Jasonflz

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Let's just say, I would be all for this. Def. my favorite attraction in the MK back then. I would still prefer to have it replace MILF (easier done than SGE's location) and something new come to SGE's spot.


Timekeeper would need a brand new film and a duplicate TK and 9-Eye built.

Also, while a great attraction, it held no interest for guest and was a walk on its last few years of seasonal existance.

You are talking about replacing something that is disliked by some, with something that is ignored by most.

SGE could work still, but it needs a massive budget and overhaul of pretty much everything but the AA's.

That was mostly because people didn't know where it was. Also, Disney didn't heavily promote it, which was a shame.

Very true. Most of the building would need to be demolished to rebuild a Circle-Vision theater in that spot.
 

Figment632

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I like the idea, but I don't understand how the logistics would work...

The story could be that som corp. for lack of a name lets call them WDI invented time travel. You are all invited to thier labs to witness this new technology. In the demonstration chamber your guide would be the Time Keeper, he would be in place in the center of the room where Stich is. The circular screens could go up near the cieling or a little lower.

It would take the old attraction to the next level. Instead of just watching the time travel you would take part in it. The simulation would use effects with the seats and im sure some new effects couls be created.
 

Jasonflz

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The story could be that som corp. for lack of a name lets call them WDI invented time travel. You are all invited to thier labs to witness this new technology. In the demonstration chamber your guide would be the Time Keeper, he would be in place in the center of the room where Stich is. The circular screens could go up near the cieling or a little lower.

It would take the old attraction to the next level. Instead of just watching the time travel you would take part in it. The simulation would use effects with the seats and im sure some new effects couls be created.

It could work but the circle vision was a big part of the story line.
 

jakeman

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That was mostly because people didn't know where it was. Also, Disney didn't heavily promote it, which was a shame.
That's bull. It was on the main drag of Tomorrowland. You literally need to look right to see it.

LwtL is stuck in a corner and not advertised and it does fine.
 

Jasonflz

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That's bull. It was on the main drag of Tomorrowland. You literally need to look right to see it.

LwtL is stuck in a corner and not advertised and it does fine.

:lol::brick: Boy are you wrong. Look at Martin's theory on it. People didn't know it was there. There was no signage at all.

If you don't believe me ask him yourself.:p:wave:
 

Kamikaze

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The story could be that som corp. for lack of a name lets call them WDI invented time travel. You are all invited to thier labs to witness this new technology. In the demonstration chamber your guide would be the Time Keeper, he would be in place in the center of the room where Stich is. The circular screens could go up near the cieling or a little lower.

It would take the old attraction to the next level. Instead of just watching the time travel you would take part in it. The simulation would use effects with the seats and im sure some new effects couls be created.

How do you see whats behind you if you are in seats?
 

DisneyMusician2

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The theater needs a complete tear dwn to put a diferent style show in. That is part of the reason why Mission to Mars, AE, and SGE have come to pass.

No other show style will work well in that space, so imagineering is limited to a space truly designed for an experience that wasn't cutting edge in 1970.
 

jakeman

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I'm wrong because my opinion is different? Martin seems like a great guy, but I disagree.

You walk into Tomorrowland, and look right. You turn your head 90 degrees, to the right... It's like saying the Bakery on Main Street is hidden.
 

Figment632

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How do you see whats behind you if you are in seats?

Thats why it wouldn't be a true circle vision. there would be screens all around.

This wouldn't really be the traditional TK but a new spin on it that combines the characters and a few elements from the old attraction with newer elements of SGE/AE.
 

Jasonflz

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I'm wrong because my opinion is different? Martin seems like a great guy, but I disagree.

You walk into Tomorrowland, and look right. You turn your head 90 degrees, to the right... It's like saying the Bakery on Main Street is hidden.

No. It's your opinion and you're fully entitled to it.:)

It's just that, there was absolutely no signage for the attraction. It was hidden by the large structure in front. Sandwich boards were added to help guests notice it but I guess that didn't work. Let me try to find the thread where Martin gives some evidence towards it.
 

imagineer boy

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Yeah, then they could replace Laugh Floor with AE. :lol: Funny little switch up there.

But seriously, if they were to bring back Timekeeper (fingers crossed) I think it would be easier to bring it back to the old circle vision theater where it used to be.
 

Jasonflz

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Here's an older post of his that discusses some of these issues.

I don`t - I blame management. Timekeeper was a great attraction, in my opinion (you didn`t think so - not a problem) but what Irks me most is attractions that are popular (AE, TK for example) are removed for no good reason. New Tomorrowland and its attractions has been discussed heavily in the past, so I won`t go into it again. Neither attraction was showing its age (NYC could have been reshot or cut out; the original From Time to Time has a few minutes of extra footage that could have even been cut in if need be) and both were original.

AE was removed (as we`ve again discussed many times) due to complaints from guests who ignored the mutliple warnings about the ExtraTERRORestrial attraction. Perhaps, like Pulp Fiction, it ended up being too un-Disney to be Disney.

TK was dropped into the all too familiar seasonal opening. Shame of Disney. 15 years ago there was no such thing as seasonal for major attractions. In other words, it`s not filling the theatre everytime; lets save money. The CV was a people eater; no wonder it wasn`t always full. The official reasoning was that the exterior signage wasn`t clear enough there was an attraction inside. So... promote it more. Put up better signs (not just a sandwich board and LED display) Film quality is an issue all over WDW; I`ve heard not good things about the state of Ellens Energy projections; in this day and age it must be time to go digital for storage in the parks? Even 9 projectors running off hard discs or similar would be more cost effective than running 9 35mm projectors with 9 sets of 35mm stock, but that`s another thread drift in an already drifted thread.

Cutting to the chase, there is plenty of room for AE, TK, The Laugh Floor and SGE. The Galaxy Palace is underused (though I`d rather see it used more than go) and the plot between the CoP and the Space Mountain Satellite is an official expansion area - ironically it was almost utilised in an early Tland 94 plan. And over in Fantasyland we waited 10 years for a playground and field. The 20K plot is huge; it could hold Poohs Playground, one or both of the new Tland attractions, and still have space for a major E Ride (and store). SGE could have been built in a show-specific building. If all else fails, Disney MGM is crying out for attractions. If the parks name change rumours are true, The Laugh Floor would have perfect (ABC Theatre anyone?)

I`m not being nostalgic; these were great attractions that could be around today. What I resent is when the replacement either dosn`t measure up to what it replaced, is poor, or didn`t need to replace anything to begin with.
 

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