Could Disney treat Seven Seas Lagoon and Bay Lake with Chloramine?

jdmdisney99

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Better yet....turn it into the world's largest saltwater aquarium, complete with artificial reefs, free-floating Nautilus sub tours, snorkeling excursions, and a new wave machine.

Plenty of room for the dolphins and manatees. No more depression :)
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fngoofy

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I believe it was stated that it was lake water. But, it was filtered lake water not chemically treated. The pool, of course, was treated and I don't know if it came from the lake originally or not. The bladder prevented unfiltered lake water from entering the swimming area either by wake or otherwise.
Sorry I wasn't clear. There was no filtering, the barriers where not bladders, they where just breakers to keep waves from rolling in. The water flowed freely between the cove that was River Country and the main body of water, Bay Lake.
 

NormC

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Sorry I wasn't clear. There was no filtering, the barriers where not bladders, they where just breakers to keep waves from rolling in. The water flowed freely between the cove that was River Country and the main body of water, Bay Lake.
There was filtering. The water was filtered and pumped into the swimming area via the slides. The lagoon was at a higher level than Bay lake which allowed water to flow over the barrier edge but not back into it.
 

NormC

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This water park opened on five acres at a corner of Bay Lake near Cypress Point at Fort Wilderness on June 20, 1976. It was officially opened by Gerald Ford's daughter Susan and was designed to be like the type of swimming hole you'd imagine in a Mark Twain novel. According to Disney press releases, gravity kept the millions of gallons of water fresh in River Country. A giant flexible tube at the mouth of the Ol' Swimmin' Hole opened into Bay Lake and served as a "bladder" as it expanded and contracted to keep the River Country water level six inches higher than the lake. This was accomplished through the use of a special sensor system.
Water from Bay Lake was pumped through the inside of River Country's artificial mountain to the top of the flumes and raft ride at the rate of 8,500 gallons a minute. Following the principle that gravity causes water to seek its own level, the River Country water spilled over the top of the tube back into Bay Lake and provided circulation in the water.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Sorry I wasn't clear. There was no filtering, the barriers where not bladders, they where just breakers to keep waves from rolling in. The water flowed freely between the cove that was River Country and the main body of water, Bay Lake.
Not quite freely as there was a minimum of filtering to keep out debris. The water did NOT free flow between the two bodies of water as it had to pass through a giant tube to be pumped to the top of the mountain..then excess water flowed over the top of the bladder 6 inches to the lake below.

Any number of websites have this fact well documented.
 

DisneyWall-E

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I work in water treatment. I am a certified Water Operator. Two big reasons for not doing this is cost. They would probably have to use CL2 (Chlorine gas) its over 99% pure. Our small town of about 3000 goes through a lot of bottles of CL2 a year and its not cheap. And its not a closed system. New water keeps coming in every second and leaving just as fast.
 

jdmdisney99

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I've always wondered why I don't see gators any where in WDW. I live in costal southern SC and we assume every body of fresh water has a gator in it. That is pretty much always the truth. I'm thinking Disney is killing them or is moving them. You should see them laying on the shore sunning themselves etc. They're not open water animals but they done love canals, lagoons etc. Really strange that I never see any gators and I know what I'm looking for.
Supposedly, as I've heard it, whenever a gator is spotted in the Lagoon or Bay Lake, Disney sends someone out to capture the gator and move it to a less guest-inhabited area on the property.
 

Jim Chandler

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I have seen gators in the ponds along the entrance roads to the park and trust me they are in every body of water in Florida.
Infinity pool NO gators will get in them and why an infinity pool when there are pools already in place.
Amoebas you do know are in every body of water. A young boy just died in Florida from it in August I believe. Going into ponds, lakes, rivers with open wounds can lead to life threatening issues especially for those with weakened immune systems.
 

Jim Chandler

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That's more of a problem then alligators. Mid summer when the water is nice and warm is also when the most stuff is growing in it, many ways to get sick. Also I worry more about cotton mouths those things are aggressive.

Side note that picture of the little alligator would be nothing to worry about at all it's when they get bigger is when the problems happen. We always said if the alligator is shorter than you no problem, longer than you and you become potential prey. It takes a while for an alligator to get 6-7 ft long, the big 10 ft+ might be 50 years old or so. Anything that lives in a swamp that's 50 years old didn't get that old because it's stupid. LOL.

And the bigger the body of water the bigger the gator Cottonmouths/water moccasins NO THANK YOU
 

G00fyDad

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That's more of a problem then alligators. Mid summer when the water is nice and warm is also when the most stuff is growing in it, many ways to get sick. Also I worry more about cotton mouths those things are aggressive.

Side note that picture of the little alligator would be nothing to worry about at all it's when they get bigger is when the problems happen. We always said if the alligator is shorter than you no problem, longer than you and you become potential prey. It takes a while for an alligator to get 6-7 ft long, the big 10 ft+ might be 50 years old or so. Anything that lives in a swamp that's 50 years old didn't get that old because it's stupid. LOL.

I still don't that little monster chewing on my leg. I don't care how little he is.
 

scottnj1966

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Reading through some of these comments makes me laugh.
I have swam in many of our lakes and rivers in our state for many years.
Gators are all over. They never bothered us. They usually will swim away from noise and like to stay to themselves. Crocidiles are the aggressive ones. Now of course you get near one of their nests and you be running very fast.

As for gators at Disney, when they do sight one they are captured and moved to another location. That's why it is rare to see one around their waters.

As for River Country. Yes the amoeba issue is real but not only Disney's water but any slow or non moving warm waters. That may have been a small concern why it closed but it was more Eisner deciding WDW needed real water parks to compete, or more like beat the local water parks we already had.

Now I only saw this post today even though it's old, I wanted to mention that the water at Seven Seas is very clear lately. I wonder what has changed. I've been here so many times over many years and it just looks amazing.

I took this video last week at the Polynesian. Look how clear the water is. Take a look at the video I took last week.

 

Daniel Johnson

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First, If the pollution at lake apopka didnt kill the gators, would chloramine do it?
Second, as a man who screamed and paddled until he thought he was going to have a heart attack because an alligator bumped his kayak....I ain't about to swim or play in bay lake, or seven seas...
 

WDW_Jon

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I liked River country as a fearless child and I'm confident my brain hasn't been eaten yet... Not sure I'd be as comfortable with that water as an adult though for some reason?
However, forgetting cost, environment and what other reasons we've heard on here I'm just wondering why the hell anyone would want to swim in there!!
No thanks!
:jawdrop:
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I liked River country as a fearless child and I'm confident my brain hasn't been eaten yet... Not sure I'd be as comfortable with that water as an adult though for some reason?
However, forgetting cost, environment and what other reasons we've heard on here I'm just wondering why the hell anyone would want to swim in there!!
No thanks!
:jawdrop:
By the looks of your avatar, they appear to be eating away at you and your friends bodies instead. :D
 

imagineer boy

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I think we all should have learned by now, whenever Disney closes an attraction and lets it rot because of "concerns over XYZ", the translation is most probably "because we're cheap and wanted to save money."

Example:

"We built the HKDL castle as an exact replica of the original Disneyland castle to pay tribute to the original park that started it all!"

Translation: "We build it that way because its cheaper since it so friggin' small."
 
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