montyz81
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Even though it is manmade it does have animal life in it and it does have a show like this.. I am referring to WS Lagoon.
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Could customized shows be impetus for WOC at WDW?
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sponono88
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There's a new WoC-type show opening at Disneyland Paris next year.. A good example of the variations of the show that could open up at other Disney parks around the world.
The castle moat certainly isn't as big as the DCA lagoon but it will still feature fountains, projections, and lasers. The story will feature Peter Pan's shadow as seen in this concept art:
They even used the World of Color commercial from DCA show in this video promo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyoe3NxJ5L4
The castle moat certainly isn't as big as the DCA lagoon but it will still feature fountains, projections, and lasers. The story will feature Peter Pan's shadow as seen in this concept art:
They even used the World of Color commercial from DCA show in this video promo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyoe3NxJ5L4
Buried20KLeague
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I was referring to the other poster talking about AK.
Though WS lagoon wouldn't work either, for reasons I already posted in this thread.
PyroKinesis
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Yes, but they can actually remove the set-pieces from the lagoon. WoC has to stay where it is all the time.
montyz81
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The barges could get longer (not sure how much in order to fit in the canal) to become more like WoC. That said, they could easily suspend water jets just below the water surface in WS Lagoon and make it a no boating zone. Additionally, why couldn't they make the globe a permanent fixture in the middle of the lagoon. It would fit perfectly as it is called World Showcase Lagoon.
jjharvpro
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World of Color is INSANELY INCREDIBLE. I mean it truly is an amazing show, further proving Disney stands on its own. I saw it when I was in California for the Expo, and I think I've listened to the music over 1000 times since..
But really the show is a fantastic addition to DCA and really was a brilliant move by WDI.
Bringing this show to WDW would be awesome and I'd go see it every trip for sure. If we had our own version in WDW, imagine the possibilities! Wow, my mind is racing on what it would be like in WDW!
But really the show is a fantastic addition to DCA and really was a brilliant move by WDI.
Bringing this show to WDW would be awesome and I'd go see it every trip for sure. If we had our own version in WDW, imagine the possibilities! Wow, my mind is racing on what it would be like in WDW!
choco choco
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Everyone always underestimates the purpose of the concrete bottom. The concrete bottom is the support foundation for the show. Think of it like a gun, when you shoot that much water at such high speeds and pressure and with such complex choreography (therefore unbalanced forces), there is a massive amount of recoil force on the platform.
To date, hands down the biggest problem with the maintenance of the show is that this recoil force is continually wrecking the support beams and jettisoning the platform toward the bottom of the lagoon. You can't place it on a barge or "suspend water jets," it would wildly spin out of control, like the end of a spraying hose when no one is holding on to it.
Buried20KLeague
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THANK YOU. It's not as simple as putting a bunch of bleachers around whatever lake you choose and pushing a button.
It sounds as if you might know the show a bit from the inside... I've insisted the only place they would put it at WDW would be in the current F! theatre, IF it ever makes its way East. Thoughts? I think they could do some very interesting things with the different viewing angle of the stadium seating. I'd love to see that show from the top row of the F! theatre.
If it wasn't there, it would have to be in a specially constructed venue from the ground up... It wouldn't be put in any place "adapted" for the show... And I just can't see TDO spending that kind of cash if they aren't forced to (a la FLE).
choco choco
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I'm not that familiar with the F! theatre, but if the lake is shallow enough you could probably get away with not using the water table (like the Bellagio show). The water table serves as a "fake bottom" to stabilize the fountains (Paradise Lagoon is 18 feet at its deepest), and it allows them to easily retract all the fountains below water level to hide it during the daytime (not a problem at DHS).
The better question is why anyone wants it in the F! theatre. Think of this from an Imagineering perspective. As anyone who has physically seen the show can tell you, the show is more than just the fountains. It utilizes the entire Paradise Pier infrastructure. The Ferris Wheel and Roller Coaster figure prominently. The atmosphere in the area before the show, with all the lollipop and popcorn lights reflecting across the water, the colorful boardwalk; all this is part of the theming. If they put it in the F! theatre, what is going to be the backdrop for the show? How is that gonna look as cool as what is at DCA?
Buried20KLeague
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That's a really good point... :veryconfu
c-one
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Very good question! That's part of the problem with the East Coast Fantasmic even as it is. In Anaheim, both Fantasmic and World of Color interact with the existing park environment in such cool ways. Sure, you can get a more comfortable viewing spot and a more controlled environment in a separate stadium a la Fantasmic at DHS, but it's also a lot more sterile.
COProgressFan
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Very true. At DL, there is something quite magical about the sun setting and suddenly the river you rafted on early that day, or traveled to Tom Sawyer Island on, becomes the very site of a massive show.
TP2000
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The magic of Disneyland is truly special, and Fantasmic! on the Rivers of America is an excellent example of that.
But I think this just proves that what DHS needs with their Fantasmic! is to really step up their game. Improve the thing with the sparkling new technology that Disneyland uses, with a big dollop of the new toys Tokyo DisneySea now uses for their Fantasmic!, so that the sterility and Aquacade environment of the theater becomes a non-issue.
But even though I know how challenged the DHS version of Fantasmic! is compared to its California cousin, I wouldn't want to lose it forever. Also, DHS amphitheater is just not big enough to capture the true spectacle of World of Color. World of Color's scale is massive, and it needs a massive environment to play to the audience. DHS Fantasmic! amphitheater is not the place for WOC; it deserves a bigger and bolder environment at WDW.
If little, tiny Disneyland Resort can find space to perform twice-nightly Fantasmic! shows and twice-nightly WOC shows within a 15 minute walk of each other, then surely the giant and sprawling WDW Resort can find space to perform Fantasmic! and World of Color at the same time too. There's still two WDW parks that don't have a nightly water show; DAK and Magic Kingdom. Find space and time at one of those parks, and plus up Fantasmic! and Reflections of Earth as well. It can be done.
montyz81
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That had not occurred to me. It is a good point. That said, if they did it the first time, they can do it again and perhaps they could dig deeper into the lagoon with a large flat platform and build the stilts off of that. Something like that would spread the downward forces over a larger area therefor taking much longer for it to sink into the ground.