Cost of attractions

[dsnyfreak]

why couldn't disney use some of the money for uneeded refurbs and additions like in tomorrowland for the new stitch show and use some it for monorail extentions to other parts of the resort area? spending $1 million or so a mile for another 15 -20 miles of monorail would pay for itself in time. less money for gasoline for the busses, more reliable etc., etc., etc..... so instead of paying out millions on repainting which is not really needed except for maybe tuch ups or putting in a new attraction or show thats not going to go well that costs millions, why not.:veryconfu they have to think of all the time and labor spent on the workers doing the actual refurb work plus all the new workers who will have to run the attraction and if its a show like stitch, they will need more people then just a few for a ride or monorail line.

 

[dsnyfreak]

wait a minute were going to have 2 stitch shows in the MK?:veryconfu:shrug: thats just not right!!! we all dont like stitch . they should change it to stitch land!!! and I guess at this meet and greet space they are aparently putting there near buzz will have stitch as well. as I recall the movie was not as sucessful as Aladdin and others. and all Aladdin got was a flying carpet ride and a cameo in mickeys philharmagic and a all star resort bathroom size space for a meet and greet!! and of all the sucess of the potc movies they took out the tutorial and the meet and greet for jack sparrow and the lot as well!! but you can always see captain hook and mr smee near potc not near the peter pan ride???? Im confused as to the logic!:hammer:

 

[unkadug]

why couldn't disney use some of the money for uneeded refurbs and additions like in tomorrowland for the new stitch show and use some it for monorail extentions to other parts of the resort area? spending $1 million or so a mile for another 15 -20 miles of monorail would pay for itself in time. less money for gasoline for the busses, more reliable etc., etc., etc..... so instead of paying out millions on repainting which is not really needed except for maybe tuch ups or putting in a new attraction or show thats not going to go well that costs millions, why not.:veryconfu they have to think of all the time and labor spent on the workers doing the actual refurb work plus all the new workers who will have to run the attraction and if its a show like stitch, they will need more people then just a few for a ride or monorail line.

This whole post has more wrong in it than I can begin to dispute.

I'll take one point only. They do not spend millions on unneeded repainting.

(BTW the default size and color will suffice nicely)

 

[marni1971]

why couldn't disney use some of the money for uneeded refurbs and additions like in tomorrowland for the new stitch show and use some it for monorail extentions

You are joking, right?

 

[WDW Monorail]

spending $1 million or so a mile for another 15 -20 miles of monorail would pay for itself in time.

WHOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

You don't really think it would cost $1 million/mile, do you?

 

[dsnyfreak]

well thats what i heard on one of those travel channel shows somewhere.

 

[dsnyfreak]

You are joking, right?

Im not saying that SM and TTA doesnt need refurbs because we all know its the right time Im talking mostly about the new stitch stuff popping up all over tomorrowland I mean really 2 attractions about him? :shrug:and I know that UOE at epcot looks soooooooooo much better now that it went retro, but what about SSE doesnt it need to be finished I mean why stop in the middle and not finish? that decent is just not disney, its very childish in my opinion. I would love for them to spend more money on making total refurbs to SM like the one in DLP that would be worth the money!!!

 

[goodtimes5286]

this misconception hsa been talked about before, it was one mil a mile a LONG time ago but now it would be MUCH more.

Yes just putting up a track would be pretty cheep and easy, the problem is there is too much un usable land between TTC and DHS and DAK. They would have to dredge/de-forest a good amount of land before the supports could even be installed safely enough to hold the weight of the monerail AND the people inside.

If it was ONLY 1 million per mile rest assured it WOULD be done by now. It's probably about 1/2 a mill or MORE per bus (plus the upkeep, number of busses, and staff needed to opperate them is WAY more then for the same number of guests using the monerail system).

I believe I read when i first got on wdw that the price is more like 1 BILLION per mile, hence why disney isnt even on the fence about a monerail extension

 

[goodtimes5286]

Im not saying that SM and TTA doesnt need refurbs because we all know its the right time Im talking mostly about the new stitch stuff popping up all over tomorrowland I mean really 2 attractions about him? :shrug:and I know that UOE at epcot looks soooooooooo much better now that it went retro, but what about SSE doesnt it need to be finished I mean why stop in the middle and not finish? that decent is just not disney, its very childish in my opinion. I would love for them to spend more money on making total refurbs to SM like the one in DLP that would be worth the money!!!

They're bringing back AE

 

[marni1971]

but what about SSE doesnt it need to be finished I mean why stop in the middle and not finish? that decent is just not disney, its very childish in my opinion

It wasn`t childish - there were many factors involved. Sadly.

 

[trr1]

why couldn't disney use some of the money for uneeded refurbs and additions like in tomorrowland for the new stitch show and use some it for monorail extentions to other parts of the resort area? spending $1 million or so a mile for another 15 -20 miles of monorail would pay for itself in time. less money for gasoline for the busses, more reliable etc., etc., etc..... so instead of paying out millions on repainting which is not really needed except for maybe tuch ups or putting in a new attraction or show thats not going to go well that costs millions, why not.:veryconfu they have to think of all the time and labor spent on the workers doing the actual refurb work plus all the new workers who will have to run the attraction and if its a show like stitch, they will need more people then just a few for a ride or monorail line.

here are some cost for monorails

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[SIZE=+3]How much does Monorail cost?[/SIZE]


This is the number one question we receive at The Monorail Society. Unfortunately there is no simple answer. There are many variables which influence the price of building a monorail system (and most forms of rail transit). Factors include...​

• Total length of the system: In many cases, costs can be reduced the longer a system is.
• Topography: Is the terrain flat or hilly, are there many roads or rivers to cross?
• Location: What is the access for construction equipment? Will there be heavy traffic or other impediments to construction?
• Utilities: Relocation of water mains, power lines, telephone lines, etc. can have a significant effect on cost increases.
• Land: What amount of land needs to be purchased or easements need to be acquired?
• Passenger requirements: What size and number of vehicles are required? How much time will they wait at stations?
• Speed: What are the speed requirements of the system? Are there long enough distances between stations so that a higher speed is desired?
• Number of Stations: Each additional station adds to the cost.
• Special Structures: Will tunnels, bridges, overpass reconstruction or urban structures be a factor?
• Geotechnical conditions: What are the subsurface conditions? They can have a major impact on foundation costs.
• Environmental Mitigation: Will restoration, wildlife protection or sound walls be required?

No matter what the cost of building one is, monorail has the one of the best chances of all transit modes of turning a profit. This said, we are publishing the following approximate cost figures of various monorail/monobeam systems (manufacturers listed alphabetically). The list is by no means complete. If you have additional information or corrections, please contact us at monorailsociety@comcast.net[/EMAIL"]monorailsociety@comcast.net"]monorailsociety@comcast.net[/EMAIL]. If you are looking for more accurate cost figures for a specific alignment, the most accurate information should be obtained directly from the manufacturer or a monorail-knowledgeable consultant (one that won't just try to sell you light or heavy rail). See our Manufacturer Page[/url] for contact information.

System type Cost/Year Info Source System Status
Hitachi
$15 million/km
1964


Tokyo-Haneda Monorail
Operating
Hitachi
$62 million/km
1985


Kitakyushu Monorail
Operating
VSL-
(refurbished Mark IV trains)
$25 million/mile
1995

MGM-Bally's Monorail
Replaced with Bombardier system

Hitachi
$27 million/km
$44 million/mile
2003

Okinawa Monorail
Operating

Kuala Lumpur
MTrans
$36 million/km
2003

Kuala Lumpur Monorail
Operating

Bombardier MVI
$88 million/mile
2004

Las Vegas Monorail
(7 stations/4 miles)
Operating

Hitachi$73.4 million/km
2006

Palm Jumeirah MonorailOpens
2009

Metrail
$20 million/km


2008
Metrail
Contracted

Rowin/Urbanaut
$10.3 million/km
2008


Rowin
Construction (2008)

Scomi
$30.75 million/km
2008
Mumbai Monorail
(Rites Ltd.)
Construction (2008)


Disclaimer: The above figures were calculated by extrapolating information in the public domain. We encourage manufacturers and consultants to provide us with corrected cost estimates if any of our numbers appear to be incorrect. As stated above, the number one question posed to us is "How much does monorail cost?" This information is vital for those proposing or planning a transit system. Contact us at monorailsociety@comcast.net[/B"]monorailsociety@comcast.net"]monorailsociety@comcast.net[/email][/B[/email]] with information or requests for corrections. Thank you!​