Which one would have been better all around between cost, down time and and operations? I’m starting to lean towards 2 new monorails and new beam tracks.
Bombardier did the most recent versions of the monorail. Yes they still exist. Yes they could have built it.Good question but is the company that made the monorail still in business? Are there other companies that would be able to build it now? With all the new technology i would think if they could build them they would be so much better.
Which one would have been better all around between cost, down time and and operations? I’m starting to lean towards 2 new monorails and new beam tracks.
I guess Disney so generous to the customers they couldn’t afford a monorail system expansionI would have liked to have seen them add more monorail routes instead of this, however I assume the monorail routes would be more expensive!
I've talked to monorail CM's about this quite a bit and they've told me that one of the problems is that where the ground is so swampy that it makes it really hard to do and there was once a few years ago where someone said it was in the millions for just a very small distance of track.
Which one would have been better all around between cost, down time and and operations? I’m starting to lean towards 2 new monorails and new beam tracks.
I saw an article awhile back that said approx. $6 million per mile +/-.
I doubt they would sink that kind of coin into a monorail. If they were going to you'd think they would have already done it years ago as the hotel footprints were expanding. Those monorails were pretty beat up the last time I was there and there's only two loops. Imagine keeping up with another one or two loops and the associated trains.
We've been going to WDW for a little over 30 years. Except for one trip, we always drove. The thought of driving to the parks never dawned on us as the buses always worked fine. I also have never gone to the TTC, except walking to the monorail station from the Poly so I had no idea how it worked. Somebody in another thread named Katiebug was complaining about having to use a tram etc. People were saying that if she's been going for years she should have known. (I sat that one out as I had been going for years and didn't know either LOL). The monorails were put in the original design because it was modern and a new wave transportation system. I think they were ok in the beginning as the got you from the few hotels on property to the only park on property. As things grew, the monorail was not expanded past EPCOT. They may have been thinking cost vs effectiveness even back then. Buses were cheaper. Their infrastructure, roads, were already in place. They have a smaller and less specialized energy load than a monorail. The monorails have been relegated to a transportation novelty. The boats seem to work well except in very bad weather.I also don't think that monorails really solve a problem at a place like Disney. In very dense megacities, they're great for whipping workers around a city or getting city dwellers around a city. But people are OK with being pushed, cramming themselves into small spaces, there's no crowd control (other than to jam you as tightly as possible like Asia) and nobody's holding your hand delicately. There's no strollers or wheelchairs or scooters. Everyone's standing and jammed into their like sardines, and people are relatively fast and efficient.
At Disney people expect to have their hands held, everyone has a stroller or scooter, and you can't just push people in or hurry them up. They all want to take their time, and a high level of safety is expected.
If people were more used to riding mass transit and weren't all bringing little kids it would make sense and be more efficient. That being said, Disney just needs systems that work for tourists who want to take their time and not be whipped around the city like they're late for work.
I think that the Magic Buses make a lot of sense. I think it would be a lot better to just get picked up from your car from the TTC and dropped right off at the front gate. Instead of taking a tram to the monorail, trudging over, waiting in line, and then taking the monorail, trudging out to the gate, and then going in.
As I was saying before, there's a reason that a lot of tourists will fly in, and then just rent a car to get around all week instead of even bothering with Disney's transit.
They can technically be built at any elevation. The reason they and many other forms of mass transit are elevated it to get them above vehicular traffic. This allows them to move at speed without having to contend with traffic.Is there a reason why the monorails have to be built up in the air, can't they be built at ground level at a much lower cost? Asking as i am not an engineer. Eliminate some of the bus traffic
less than half.That one mile is almost as much as the entire Skyliner, if memory serves..
less than half.
I have the numbers thanks. Or rather the spreadsheets.Skyliner didn't cost as much to build as you'd think..
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