TrainsOfDisney
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The J&J study was pretty promising as well if I remember correctly. Hey maybe all those people who said “Pfizer is the best” will be the only ones who have to go back for a booster!
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willtravel
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This is why I am just not ready to open borders (not that this is not happening now) for vacationers or even business back and forth. If Delta variant originated in India how did it get here? Just happened? But there is one border that is open.South Korea = 29% of the population with 1 dose
Thailand = 12%
I’d say they have a lot more to worry about
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ctrlaltdel
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If you have insurance, almost certainly that. Much like the flu shot, they much rather pay for that than have you potentially go to the hospital which will be much more expensive for them.
willtravel
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Yea I had Pfizer, not by choice. Guess we will see. I thought Moderna was also creating a booster.The J&J study was pretty promising as well if I remember correctly. Hey maybe all those people who said “Pfizer is the best” will be the only ones who have to go back for a booster!
willtravel
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I was thinking along the lines the government.
Jrb1979
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It's why they aren't in a hurry to open the Canada/US border.
GimpYancIent
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It does not matter! The price is paid one way or another Insurance or Government (which We The People fund w tax's). There is no free.
DisneyFan32
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Looks like NJ will not have any major spikes by fall because there was high vaccination in the state along with NY!
willtravel
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Is there business travel outside of country?
GimpYancIent
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Not just business travel but crews on container vessels and other commercial carriers then there are those that purposely work at avoiding being detected as they cross boarders.
Wendy Pleakley
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Wendy Pleakley
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On the topic of schools:
Dr. Henry pointed to two studies in the Fraser and Vancouver Coastal health regions that showed that the limited transmission seen in schools does not appear to be driving transmission in the community.
Between Jan. 1 and March 7, 2,049 COVID-19 cases were identified among school staff and students in the Fraser Health region. Of these, 83 per cent of cases were students.
But of these cases, public health determined only 267 of the cases were “likely” acquired in a school itself, and when transmission did occur in schools, it would typically lead to just one other case. Additionally, there was no transmission identified at about 85 per cent of Fraser Health schools during this period.
“Student and staff cases follow the trends in the community, but when they're in the structured school environment, the rates of transmission are much much less,” Dr. Henry said.
“Most of the cases in the school setting were acquired outside of the school and there was little transmission within the school itself.”
Limited COVID-19 transmission within BC schools: Dr. Henry - BC News
With hundreds of COVID-19 exposures in British Columbia schools over the past several month, some have called on B.C. to follow Ontario's lead and close in-class instruction. But on Thursday, Dr. Bonnie Henry presented new data to show why that's not being considered at this time.
www.castanet.net
Dr. Henry pointed to two studies in the Fraser and Vancouver Coastal health regions that showed that the limited transmission seen in schools does not appear to be driving transmission in the community.
Between Jan. 1 and March 7, 2,049 COVID-19 cases were identified among school staff and students in the Fraser Health region. Of these, 83 per cent of cases were students.
But of these cases, public health determined only 267 of the cases were “likely” acquired in a school itself, and when transmission did occur in schools, it would typically lead to just one other case. Additionally, there was no transmission identified at about 85 per cent of Fraser Health schools during this period.
“Student and staff cases follow the trends in the community, but when they're in the structured school environment, the rates of transmission are much much less,” Dr. Henry said.
“Most of the cases in the school setting were acquired outside of the school and there was little transmission within the school itself.”
Disney Experience
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I agree. Pfizer may just be noting a trend in their trial participants who are closing in on 10-11 months since vaccinated. That data may not yet be published, and provide insight that the FDA and CDC may not have . I think Pfizer has more than enough existing demand worldwide, so if they are saying that data may be presenting itself that a booster is useful sooner rather than later, I do not think it is a fictitious capitalistic ploy
Of course I am a bit biased being one of the data points they use, and knowing that I am a recent covid case.
Disney Experience
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willtravel said:
Well my wife ( Moderna Trial) did not get symptomatic covid ( never tested) when I did recently when she was caring for me (Pfizer trial).
Well my wife ( Moderna Trial) did not get symptomatic covid ( never tested) when I did recently when she was caring for me (Pfizer trial).
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correcaminos
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Well to be fair Moderna is not as widely used as Pfizer so not sure that is a good thing to go off of. The vaccines are so stinking close that I doubt it would be the case.
Or her immune system is better than yours
Joking but not as I was reading about how genetics really does affect how people are. Could explain why some families were hit super hard and others not. Genetics either can help or hurt a person.
GoofGoof
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I agree. That’s why the approach to opening first to countries with high vaccination rates makes a lot of sense too. Letting visitors from the UK and Canada into the US makes more sense since we have similar vaccination levels.
danlb_2000
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Actually, all the borders are open because there are numerous exceptions that allow people who have been in other countries to come into the US. Yes, these people are supposed to quarantine, but there is no enforcement of that. Doesn't take many infected people to start an outbreak.
GoofGoof
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This is why it’s almost better to make a policy that requires vaccination to enter the country. Then your only exception is American citizens returning home and they would still have to show a negative test result at least.
Disney Experience
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Yes many factors could come into play. Genetics, time of vaccination ( her’s vaccination was a month after mine), initial viral exposure. Initial immune system response relative to initial virus load , and of course different vaccines. Lots of things to confound someone from determining the root causes for one of us to get it and not the other. That is why individual cases may be more difficult to use to determine correlation than when they combine that into larger dataset results ( such as the original 15000 Pfizer vaccinated people workdwide) that Pfizer has visibility into.Well to be fair Moderna is not as widely used as Pfizer so not sure that is a good thing to go off of. The vaccines are so stinking close that I doubt it would be the case.
Or her immune system is better than yours
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