Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[toolsnspools]

You are reading from the section about antibody tests, which means you had the active virus at one point but not anymore. It has little to do with the daily numbers we look at every day.

So the test results are calculated based on the number of tests run in facilities that are reporting results. Another interesting tidbit (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/testing-in-us.html) -

About the Data

• These data are compiled from a number of sources. Not all tests are reported to CDC.
• The number of positive tests in a state is not equal to the number of cases, as one person may be tested more than once.

This gets to be more fun all the time. So not everyone who does a test is reporting it, however the number of labs not reporting is probably low. The number of "cases" is based on the number of positive tests run, not the actual number of infections, so if a person took the viral test while sick, and then took the anti-body test, say before entering a lab to give platelets, they could be counted as 2 positive tests. If a person were given a drive through test, and another test in the hospital, they would be considered 2 "cases".

 

[SoFloMagic]

Those are people who have tested positive before and are still testing positive with another test.

Also includes non-residents, I believe.

 

[BrianLo]

Worth pointing out the top four states for newly reported deaths today were Arizona, California, Florida and Texas.

All the warning signs are flashing. I personally do not think this is meaningless.

I do fully believe everyone had no clue how bad things were in New York when it shut down. Testing was so poor at the time. Even though there are >50k new cases in the US, I don't think it is yet as bad as the total unaccounted peak numbers in March/April. Instead we are seeing the evolution in more real time of what New York probably actually looked like around the time it was being shut down.

I do hope the awareness and social distancing rules are somewhat better this time around to compensate. Because I cannot imagine what the North Eastern States would have looked like if they refused a shut down. It is undersold that those states were terrible even after unprecedented - albeit late - intervention.

 

[milordsloth]

if this was a tropical storm forecast, what would we think about this?

Be worried, keep an eye on the forecast, but not change the WDW vacation plans?

 

[GoofGoof]

if this was a tropical storm forecast, what would we think about this?

If a tropical storm was coming to AZ I’d be pretty darn worried

 

[chrisvee]

Be worried, keep an eye on the forecast, but not change the WDW vacation plans?

Some would do that. Some would cancel. Some would never vacation during hurricane season. But very few would claim the models, state of emergency declarations, etc. were fake. Although there are always a few who won’t leave their homes no matter what.

Now we have a situation where we are the hurricane bc we carry the virus. The hurricane intensity is up to us. So presumably in addition to calculating risk to ourselves, we will factor in the care we owe to each other during a national health emergency.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It’s pretty hard to enforce with the DS busses. I’ve never taken that route to visit another resort. It’s too time consuming, but the parks are closed and there is nothing else to do. I’d probably do some resort hoping.

It’s not hard to enforce at all. During phased park closures it’s very normal to see Guest Relations CM’s at bus and monorail stations asking for room keys, dining reservations etc. Disney just has to choose to enforce it.

(At least I’ve seen this for years during New Years week).

I love resort hopping, one of my favorite things to do at wdw and the Disney transportation makes it easy and enjoyable for me. But to each their own!

 

[milordsloth]

Some would do that. Some would cancel. Some would never vacation during hurricane season. But very few would claim the models, state of emergency declarations, etc. were fake. Although there are always a few who won’t leave their homes no matter what.

Now we have a situation where we are the hurricane bc we carry the virus. The hurricane intensity is up to us. So presumably in addition to calculating risk to ourselves, we will factor in the care we owe to each other during a national health emergency.

Hopefully in this analogy the tropical storm will be downgraded to a tropical depression soon.. I'll do my part and wear a mask at WDW and be nice and patient with cast members.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Sounds like Publix is doing the right thing at least: "Publix reportedly offers paid leave for 14 days for employees who test positive for the virus. They also notify and give paid leave up to 14 days to workers who have been in "close contact" with infected staffers."

I'm sure Mickey will do better.

You missed the point...the 60,000 people who touch all your food, linens, merchandise, etc in the compound go to publix.
...or worse: Walmart.

They don’t grow the employees hydroponically in the lab at the land.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It’s not hard to enforce at all. During phased park closures it’s very normal to see Guest Relations CM’s at bus and monorail stations asking for room keys, dining reservations etc. Disney just has to choose to enforce it.

(At least I’ve seen this for years during New Years week).

I love resort hopping, one of my favorite things to do at wdw and the Disney transportation makes it easy and enjoyable for me. But to each their own!

You’re talking about 1 or 2 days a year...maybe...and usually the word of mouth is enough deterrence that it keeps people out. Now they have video boards to slap “closed!” On at every stop too...

I’ve played that game. Disney is always given credit for being “authoritarian” when they are more like the opposite in practice.

I hope they don’t need to be now...they aren’t good at it.

 

[Miss Bella]

It’s not hard to enforce at all. During phased park closures it’s very normal to see Guest Relations CM’s at bus and monorail stations asking for room keys, dining reservations etc. Disney just has to choose to enforce it.

(At least I’ve seen this for years during New Years week).

I love resort hopping, one of my favorite things to do at wdw and the Disney transportation makes it easy and enjoyable for me. But to each their own!

I like eating at other resorts,but I Uber.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

You’re talking about 1 or 2 days a year...maybe...and usually the word of mouth is enough deterrence that it keeps people out. Now they have video boards to stops “closed!” On at every stop too...

Oh I know.. I’m just saying if Disney wants to make it happen, they can. It’s not something that they can’t do.

Unless it becomes a problem, Disney wants people visiting the resorts and spending money. And by problem I mean capacity of transportation problem because of the reduced number of seats.

 

[milordsloth]

You missed the point...the 60,000 people who touch all your food, linens, merchandise, etc in the compound go to publix.
...or worse: Walmart.

They don’t grow the employees hydroponically in the lab at the land.

I didnt miss the point.. just didn't acknowledge it since that is a given anywhere I go. Good to know about the land! I was wondering what I'd see during my visit there, and I guess now I know not to expect a human grow op haha

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I like eating at other resorts,but I Uber.

Always? Like would you Uber from wilderness lodge to contemporary instead of taking the boat?

 

[DisneyDebRob]

So much for that Disney bubble. 2 tested positive when they arrived but 4 that were negative at arrival now test positive.

6 FC Dallas players test positive for COVID-19 at Disney resort

www.google.com

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I didnt miss the point.. just didn't acknowledge it since that is a given anywhere I go. Good to know about the land! I was wondering what I'd see during my visit there, and I guess now I know not to expect a human grow op haha

But you still did that popular “thing” where someone says

“I’m SURE Disney (the great and powerful) will do _____”

Don’t feel bad...it’s common and across the board on every unpleasant topic...
But Disney isn’t prepped for this really any better than anyone else...to be honest.

It’s a testament to their persona that anyone really suggests they are.

How? Why?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So much for that Disney bubble. 2 tested positive when they arrived but 4 that were negative at arrival now test positive.

6 FC Dallas players test positive for COVID-19 at Disney resort

www.google.com

Well...that could be lag.

But it also doesn’t matter.

The truth is a lie that everyone believes

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I like eating at other resorts,but I Uber.

No Minnie van?!?

...and you call yourself a “fan” and true believe of the faith

 

[Miss Bella]

You do understand the whole point of triage is deciding who to let die because they can’t treat everyone, right?


I have higher hopes for California and even Texas to get through this with around NYC numbers than Florida. I feel like the FL Governor isn’t gonna do anything to effectively help mitigate the spread, but mostly just try to hide numbers until it’s really too late to do anything at all.

I understand what triage is, but I’ve never seen it implemented the way that is being suggested. I know in Katrina they had to make some tough decisions. We still don’t know if it will ever be implemented for Covid. Getting hysterical and screaming the sky is falling accomplishes nothing.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m convinced people want to see pictures of hospitals overflowing with bodies just so they can say they were right. For those of us without a dog in this ridiculous fight, both sides look like buffoons.

Those people want everyone to do intelligent things and cut the “the stupids shall inherit the earth!” Dogma...
...so they’ll NEVER be proven right...actually.

Tomato/potato